Lot’s of UNANSWERED questions in the Brian Garber murder.

Sheriff attorney answers Garber wrongful death lawsuit

I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THE SHERIFF ANSWERS ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY ON THE RECORD. HIS FRIENDS DEPICT HE’S SCARED AND WILL ONLY TALK TO PEOPLE AT UNDISCLOSED LOCATIONS, HMMM? – MP

Defendants in the wrongful death lawsuit concerning the deputy-involved shooting of Brian Garber are asking for the case to be dismissed. – AS THEIR BUDDY DREW TYLER WOULD SAY…ROTFLMAO, AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!! – MP

Richland County Sheriff’s Office attorney Dan Downey filed a response to Garber’s wife Sara Knowlton’s lawsuit on April 13. He is representing Richland County; the Richland County Board of Commissioners; the Richland County Sheriff’s Office; Sheriff Steve Sheldon; and deputies Jeff Frazier, Andrew Knee, James Nicholson and Donald Zehner. – SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN!!!! – WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE REPRESENTATIVE WITHOUT BAMBI COUCH PAGE DECLARING “CONFLICT OF INTEREST”? NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ASKING FOR A TAX INCREASE?, ONCE AGAIN HIRING AN OUTSIDE AGENCY BECAUSE OUR ELECTED PROSECUTOR REFUSES TO DO THEIR JOB? THOUGHT THIS WAS OVER WHEN THE LAST ONE SHOT HIMSELF A FEW DAYS AFTER CALLING FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, IN WHICH “BY LAW” CANNOT DO THIS EITHER, YET THE PEOPLE SAY UH-HUH? – MP

Knowlton filed the original lawsuit Jan. 30, adding a ratification count on Feb. 4.

The lawsuit accuses numerous deputies and county agencies of negligence in supervising, training and hiring, which Knowlton says ultimately led to Garber’s death March 16, 2014. – A GOOD PORTION OF AREA RESIDENTS I HAVE TALKED TO AGREE, SOMETHING IS DIRTY IN DENMARK! – MP

The three deputies — Frazier, Nicholson and Knee — who were directly involved in the shooting have already been cleared of criminal charges by a grand jury following an eight-month investigation. I HOPE THIS WRONGFUL DEATH WILL BRING SOME LIGHT TO THIS AND IT TIES CUYAHOGA COUNTY TO HOW MUCH WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO THE HIDDEN JURY, YOU KNOW THAT SPECIAL GROUP OF PEOPLE ONLY GOD KNOWS??? SURELY THEY ARE NOT IN HARMS WAY, UNLESS YOU BELIEVE IN RETRIBUTION BY CROOKED DEPUTY’S? YOU KNOW, EVEN THE KIND WHO WILL COME TO YOUR WORK TO INTIMIDATE WHILE INTOXICATED – MP

The defendants’ answer denies most of the lawsuit’s claims.

One specific clarification defendants repeatedly make is that Knee was not Zehner’s “trainee” the night of the shooting. Rather, he is “an experienced law enforcement officer.” – NICE! – BUT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE PRIMARY SHOOTER WHO TAKES MEDS FOR DEPRESSION, IRONICALLY SHOOTING ONE WHO WAS DEPRESSED WHO DIDN’T HAVE HIS? – MP

Later, the reply states Knee was hired Feb. 14, 2014, about a month before the shooting. He was “in a training period of his employment on March 16,” it says. – USING ONE OF YOUR LIBERAL FRIENDS RESPONSES, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THIS MATTER, DEPUTY KNEE WAS NOT THE ONE WHO INITIATED CONTACT, THAT WAS DEPUTY FRAZIER. WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT IT WHY DEFLECTION TACTICS WERE USED TO PUT “FOCUS” ON DEPUTY ZEHNER WHO WAS NOT THERE BY LATER REPORTS, YOU KNOW THE NEW STUFF THAT CAME OUT 8 MONTHS LATER??? – MP

The two parties did agree in one area: Both are seeking a jury trial.

A JURY TRIAL IS GREAT! – NOW LETS SEE WHAT A JUDGE IN CLEVELAND WILL WANT TO HEAR OR NOT HEAR SHALL WE? IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN THERE’S SO MUCH TO REVISIT. I HAVE A SPECIAL PAGE DEDICATED TO BRIAN IN WHICH YOU TOO CAN SEE SOMETHING IS FISHY HERE – http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/BrianGarber_NOJUSTICE_NOPEACE.html

The lawsuit has been scheduled for a Case Management Conference at 9 a.m. June 2 in front of Judge Dan Polster in Cleveland. Parties are required to attend in person.

Garber was shot and killed after a report of a domestic violence incident at his home last March. He reportedly told deputies he had a gun and threatened to use it against them before they shot him 14 times. – THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD THIS REPORT – MP

The incident, from deputies entering Garber’s parent’s home to the call for an ambulance, lasted 95 seconds. – YET IT WAS SAID THEY TOOK NECESSARY TIME TO TALK HIM OUT??? – MP

The amount of compensatory and punitive damages sought by Garber’s family has not been disclosed. – NOT SEEKING MONETARY DAMAGES, “JUSTICE” WILL DO, SOMETHING MOST AREA RESIDENTS DON’T BELIEVE HAPPENS WITH OUR LEGAL SHAM PROCESS HERE!

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Plymouth Cop denied treatment in Mansfield, met by cops with guns drawn?

It must depend on where cops are called for gun toting citizens. In Ontario cops were called for a man reported who was concealed carrying that revealed (open carry) while in the store. In Ontario one officer showed up, gun was NOT drawn, subject was confronted with no problems. In Mansfield guns are drawn and we wonder how people get shot? Luckily this incident ended as well without casualty how ever the perspectives below show how many perspectives there are out there? I’m just glad they didn’t send the RCSO Deputy’s who responded to the text “just so you know I now have a gun too” who shot and killed the man even though he didn’t have a gun? Calls to 911 in fear of what might happen can have grave results, glad nobody was hurt.

Officer with gun reports he was denied treatment

Kaitlin Durbin, kdurbin@nncogannett.com 11:33 a.m. EDT April 13, 2015

MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS…HOW DID THEY KEEP THIS QUIET FOR 2 MONTHS, AND WHY ARE THEY EVEN SAYING ANYTHING NOW? 

THE STORY SAYS…NO SIGNS WERE POSTED DEPICTING NO GUNS????? I WOULD SUE EVERYONE INVOLVED INCLUDING THE MPD FOR DRAWING WEAPONS, PUBLIC SAFETY MY REAR END!!!! – THIS GOES TO SHOW YOU THE DIRECTION MANSFIELD IS HEADING – PERIOD!!!!

MANSFIELD – Officer safety is a chief concern in the streets, but now some are questioning it at care facilities, too.

Two months ago, Plymouth officer Wayne Liggett Sr. said he was denied treatment at Walk In Urgent Care, 1341 S. Trimble Road, because he was carrying his duty weapon. Even after it was verified he was a police officer and legally within right to carry his firearm, he was asked to leave, he said.

Eyesight problems brought him to the clinic Feb. 8.

The officer, who has been in law enforcement for 33 years, said he was seeing floaters and flashes of light in his vision and knew something wasn’t right. He called ahead to the urgent care to ensure they had equipment to view the eye.

In a private room, an employee asked him to remove his jacket to take his vitals. As a courtesy, Liggett said he told the person he was carrying his duty weapon under his shirt, in case they would see it. He also had written down on the sign-in form he was employed as a Plymouth police officer, he said.

The employee took his vitals, said the doctor would be in soon and left.

The next knock at the door Liggett didn’t expect.

Several Mansfield Police Department officers told him to come out slowly with his hands up. More than one of them were pointing their firearm at him, he said.

Liggett said he was placed in handcuffs while police verified his identity as an auxiliary officer, which took only minutes. He was carrying his badge and ID in his wallet.

Mansfield police did not file an official report on the incident. The only documentation on the matter is an event report showing dispatch logs.

But after releasing him and returning his .45 Smith and Wesson, Liggett was told the staff still refused to treat him, and he was escorted from the building. There was no sign at the facility denying concealed carry, Liggett said.

He called his eye doctor and had an appointment the next day, where he found out he had a tear in his right retina. He was in surgery by the end of the week.

On Monday, he undergoes a second surgery on the same eye for cataracts.

“They were very unprofessional with how they treated me,” Liggett said. “Something could have been seriously wrong.”

Urgent care owner Muzhar Hussain declined to comment.

The incident was cause for concern for Plymouth Police Chief Charles Doan. He questioned how other law enforcement officers will be treated in an emergency and whether the urgent care mishap was an isolated incident.

“Officers carry to be prepared, and citizens do too,” Doan said. “If you have a concealed carry and get hurt, are they going to say, ‘Get him out of here?’ ”

According to the Ohio Revised Code, officers are exempt from any concealed carry prohibitions. The federal Law Enforcement Officers’ Safety Act supports the same.

Paul Johnson, director of security at OhioHealth MedCentral Mansfield Hospital, said that facility have rules and signs prohibiting people from carrying in the hospital.

If a patient comes in and happens to be carrying their firearm, staff members will ask him or her to take the gun to a vehicle, if possible. If it’s an emergency situation, staff will store the firearm in a locked safe until the patient is recovered and outside of the hospital walls, he said.

But those rules don’t apply to law enforcement.

“Most law enforcement are required to carry whether on or off duty,” Johnson said. “They’re never really off.”

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COMMENTS

 

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Mike yes I’m referring to the rash actions in the GARBER case. The officer said he heard a shot fired by Brian… Which was impossible since Brian didn’t have a gun. Most people think out a plan quite a while at work before deciding on an action. As I’ve said many times the situation had de escalated at the time and time was on the officers side.

10 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

All I know is the laws are giving a huge amount of power to the police.

10 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

Mike monro no he was an officer in mansfield for most of them 33 years

10 hrs

Silas J Marner ·

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

It seems to me that an urgent care center is a “public accommodation,” and must treat everyone without prejudice. There is no dispute that the officers’ posession of a firearm was constitutionally protected. Have we not been hearing for the past few weeks that once you open a business, you lose the right to reject customers based on personal beliefs?

1 · 11 hrs

Matt Carter ·

Road Maintenance Supervisor at Milton Twp

I find it very sad that people look at our weapons as being bad the 100 that I own have never hurt anyone and yes I Cary one everyday

1 · 11 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

If you use the thot that the medical facility is a dangerous place, I don’t agree. If it was, police would be stationed there all the time.

Matt Carter ·

Road Maintenance Supervisor at Milton Twp

Well best thing would be if some idiot was inthere with an infected needle stabbing people and not one armed citizen or law enforcement show up to help maybe that would change there views

11 hrs

Crystal Sheriff ·

North Central State College

It flat out bs

12 hrs

Hallie Whitmore Babin

Believe it or not, the same policy applies in combat zone. Weapons of any sort were not allowed in our ER, even in Iraq, during a time of war. It’s the safety of the medical personnel that’s in jeopardy, not the individual carrying the firearm.

1 · 12 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

If you want to prove to the community that you care I think it would have been better if he understood not everyone is keen on a gun in their establishment.

15 hrs

Jeff Mills ·

Liberty University

Idiotic people. They are unprofessional and Mansfield pd was out of there place as well. They have nothing better to do and probably made them feel like big boys getting to actually draw their guns on one of their own. What stupidity

15 hrs

Shannon Nicole Rose ·

Cashier at Smokers Choice 3

I think there really rude there anyway. But this is messed up.

16 hrs

Karen Mascazzini ·

Self Employed and Loving It! at Karen’s Custom Cleaning, Bellville, Ohio

Shame on them for treating him this way!

1 · 16 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Ron, and some cry because they did call the police.

17 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

its because the police should have never been called! It says he let them know he was a Police Officer, and also politely informed them, although he didnt have to, he was carrying his fiream. This was a waste of taxpayer money! Someone in fear because they dont know the law.

1 · 16 hrs

Tim Winningham

Good stuff on this one… Of course, most law-enforcement agencies prohibit the appointed auxiliary-police from carrying their badge when off duty, even though they must carry their auxiliary-police ID at all times. Furthermore, they are usually prohibited from engaging in any enforcement activities when not explicitly on duty. Mr. Leggett was an off duty auxiliary policeman at the time. He also was not in a life-threatening state at his time of service. Whether or not he was “service-fit” is of your opinion.

In addition, there is currently a controversy sounding events such as this and whether the LEOSA, singed into law by George Bush in 2004, applies to off-duty regular, auxiliary, and retired officer “carry” laws. This has been a hot topic in the NRA over the past couple of years, so to say that Urgent Care is way out of line, is a bit of a stretch since this is a national debate. I’m not saying they are right or wrong, but certainly all have entered the debate now.

Being that the care center took vitals and decided the man was in no immediate danger, I see no reason to believe Mr. Leggett was severely hampered outside of his hurt feelings. Obviously he wasn’t done any worse by waiting another day to see an eye specialist, which would have most likely been the outcome even if Urgent Care fully treated him to Liggett’s satisfaction.

Based on Urgent Care’s reaction, I would guess that Mr. Liggett’s decision to carry is in the minority, though that doesn’t make it right or wrong.

The rest of this article involves smoke and mirrors to distract someone from the real issue of who exactly is exempt from conceal carry and what are the rights of a business to deny services to conceal carriers.

Without a doubt, what we do have here is sensationalism by the Plymouth Police Department and Mr. Liggett to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt regarding whether or not someone can seek medical care while carrying a weapon. I say someone because Mr. Liggett was an off duty auxiliaryman. Chief Doan might disagree and say all those associated with his department should be above the rights of regular civilians. I wouldn’t fault him if he did make that statement on behalf of his staff.

Most troubleing is that there is a public-shaming aspect to this story as a way for law enforcement to bully their way to a resolution in their respective favor. It probably isn’t far to lay all that blame on Chief Doan as perhaps the Urgent Care aspect of the shaming is merely limited by the article author. But certainly, Chief Doan is guilty of shaming all of us to agree that those associated with law enforcement are in grave danger if they are not treated for their mishaps while carrying a weapon, completely ignoring the fact they have a one-eyed reserve-cop packing heat stirring up the pot. It sure beats working the funeral procession patrol. Now shame on me.

1 · 18 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

He has 33 years of law enforcement under his belt! I would bet it wasnt all as a volunteer, auxillary officer.

1 · 17 hrs

Ellen Weirich ·

Mansfield St. Peters

I won’t be going there for treatment!!

2 · 18 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Police have more power than I’d like to see.
If they’re afraid and think someone has a gun, they can feel free to shoot them.
They can take guns everywhere and anytime, and all the time.

1 · 18 hrs

Ron Dillon ·

University of Parris Island

They will be the first ones to cry when some nut comes in and starts shooting and by chance no cops as patients carry service pistols. Be careful what you wish for!

2 · 18 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

HR-218 states that he as an officer is allowed to carry as the CHL laws do NOT apply to officers of the law. END OF STORY

To amend title 18, United States Code, to exempt qualified current and former
law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed
handguns.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Law Enforcement Officers Safety
Act of 2004’’.
SEC. 2. EXEMPTION OF QUALIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
FROM STATE LAWS PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF
CONCEALED FIREARMS.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code,
is amended by inserting after section 926A the following:
‘‘§ 926B. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified law
enforcement officers
‘‘(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any
State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is
a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification
required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm
that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,
subject to subsection (b).
‘‘(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit
the laws of any State that—
‘‘(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict
the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
‘‘(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any
State or local government property, installation, building, base,
or park.
‘‘(c) As used in this section, the term ‘qualified law enforcement
officer’ means an employee of a governmental agency who—
‘‘(1) is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the
prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the
incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has
statutory powers of arrest;
‘‘(2) is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;
‘‘(3) is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the
agency;
‘‘(4) meets standards, if any, established by the agency
which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use
of a firearm;
H. R. 218—2
‘‘(5) is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating
or hallucinatory drug or substance; and
‘‘(6) is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a
firearm.
‘‘(d) The identification required by this subsection is the photographic
identification issued by the governmental agency for which
the individual is employed as a law enforcement officer.
‘‘(e) As used in this section, the term ‘firearm’ does not include—
‘‘(1) any machinegun (as defined in section 5845 of the
National Firearms Act);
‘‘(2) any firearm silencer (as defined in section 921 of this
title); and
‘‘(3) any destructive device (as defined in section 921 of
this title).’’.
(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections for such
chapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section
926A the following:
‘‘926B. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified law enforcement officers.’’.

1 · 18 hrs

Emily Kash ·

Mount Vernon Nazarene University (MVNU)

They don’t even keep good records. My regular Dr requested my records for when I went in over the weekend and all they sent over were my blood pressure results. None of the notes they took, no diagnosis, and none of the medicine they prescribed. They also told my husband he had scabies without testing it when he was just having an allergic reaction.

18 hrs

Randy McComas ·

Clear Fork High School

Whether its his right or not isn’t the issue to me. They should handle it the way Med Central handles it for EVERYONES safety. I think the reason why he was there, and the diagnosis made by QUALIFIED medical professionals, concerns me more. He had surgery for a cataract on that same eye that same week and has had, or will have, even more surgery on the eye. I would consider that as impaired. However I’m not a DOCTOR as some act like they are on these posts but common sense tells me no one with eye problems, be they police or citizens, should carry a gun. It would make very nervous if he was a policeman while he had serious vision problems.

19 hrs

Jeff Brewer

in one eye.

1 · 19 hrs

Randy McComas ·

Clear Fork High School

Jeff BrewerAre you serious? With the duties and responsibilities police have I would want an officer wtih unimpaired vision protecting me and my family. By the way I think, and hope, his vision should be correctable.

19 hrs

Jeff Brewer

yup. think im un-strapping because i cant see out of one eye? nope.

3 · 19 hrs

Jeff Brewer

he was off duty. no different than a citizen with a ccw.

1 · 19 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

Jeff Brewer it is way different than a CHL holder. A cop is exempt from any CHL laws. Read the law I posted, HR 218, it allows them to carry ANYWHERE.

18 hrs

Randy McComas ·

Clear Fork High School

Mike Monroe If you had taken the time to read the very first sentence I wrote you could have saved yourself a lot of time. I don’t have a problem with the patrolman’s rights. I am concerned with ANYONE legally carrying a weapon with impaired vision.

18 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

Randy McComas He drove a car to the clinic!

17 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

I’m all for setting up new police protocol then.

20 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Mike, whether he’s bad or not, he doesn’t need his gun in a doctors office. If it was that dangerous we’d all take guns in.

1 · 20 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

Plenty do anyhow. who really cares. The signs are creating the chance for a criminal to come in and massacre defenseless folks. You have to stop believing guns are the problem and believe that the truth is simply bad people with guns is the problem. They have NEVER been allowed to have them but they ALWAYS do have them. No type of laws will ever stop that.

1 · 17 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Mike, freedom to take a gun into a doctors office?

Like · Reply · 20 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

clearly you have still not read the law?? You have the freedoms to voice your opinion, but you had better believe that freedom was given to you by men with guns! The law on concealed carry prohibits the average citizen from taking the gun into a drs office if it is so posted. HOWEVER, that same law does not apply to a COP, PERIOD, END OF STORY. This is blatant discrimination based on FEAR.

Like · Reply · 3 · 20 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

To amend title 18, United States Code, to exempt qualified current and former
law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed
handguns.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Law Enforcement Officers Safety
Act of 2004’’.
SEC. 2. EXEMPTION OF QUALIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
FROM STATE LAWS PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF
CONCEALED FIREARMS.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code,
is amended by inserting after section 926A the following:
‘‘§ 926B. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified law
enforcement officers
‘‘(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any
State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is
a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification
required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm
that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,
subject to subsection (b).
‘‘(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit
the laws of any State that—
‘‘(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict
the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
‘‘(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any
State or local government property, installation, building, base,
or park.
‘‘(c) As used in this section, the term ‘qualified law enforcement
officer’ means an employee of a governmental agency who—
‘‘(1) is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the
prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the
incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has
statutory powers of arrest;
‘‘(2) is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;
‘‘(3) is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the
agency;
‘‘(4) meets standards, if any, established by the agency
which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use
of a firearm;
H. R. 218—2
‘‘(5) is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating
or hallucinatory drug or substance; and
‘‘(6) is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a
firearm.
‘‘(d) The identification required by this subsection is the photographic
identification issued by the governmental agency for which
the individual is employed as a law enforcement officer.
‘‘(e) As used in this section, the term ‘firearm’ does not include—
‘‘(1) any machinegun (as defined in section 5845 of the
National Firearms Act);
‘‘(2) any firearm silencer (as defined in section 921 of this
title); and
‘‘(3) any destructive device (as defined in section 921 of
this title).’’.
(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections for such
chapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section
926A the following:
‘‘926B. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified law enforcement officers.’’.

Like · Reply · 1 · 18 hrs

Steve Sexton ·

Furnace Operator at PGW

How does it feel to get treated like crap just because you’re legally carrying? Serves him right.

1 · 20 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

does he have a history of treating folks bad that are legally carrying?? If not, what gives you the right to make this statement??

3 · 20 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

Community police departments and precincts are assisted by auxiliary police officers in non-hazardous and non-enforcement work. Such work is defined and delegated to them by the relevant police department and the police officer in charge of the department. Though several auxiliary police officers work voluntarily without drawing any wages, some auxiliary law enforcement work attracts a salary paid by the police departments concerned.

An Auxiliary Police Officer’s Duties

Police calls upon auxiliary police officers to supplement their work, if considered necessary. Auxiliary police officers perform jobs other than those that require the use of force; they help in facilitating peace, order, preventing crime, and protecting property and life as required by the police department. Traffic and crowd control, neighborhood patrols, and provision of security at local festivals and concerts could all form part of an auxiliary police officer’s duties.

1 · 21 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Good u trust him. Police are starting to lose their credibility. With me too.

21 hrs

Rich Armstrong

Just don’t call then. Deal with it on your own.

1 · 20 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

O huni im just the start of his family commenting on this….u dont want some of the others too…and when he is around the smaller kids he puts it in a locked breifcase for saftey

2 · 21 hrs

Jeff Brewer

well said

1 · 19 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

This could go on and on but you have your thoughts and I have mine and thank God we are still free to say them. Have a good day

1 · 21 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

you have the freedom to say this, so why are you fine with taking another freedom away from this guy? Once they take one away, the rest will follow….

Like · Reply · 2 · 20 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

Well he is the one that wanted this in the paper for all the comments so was he thinking of his family? My uncle was an auxiliary policeman for years and he also carried his gun even when off duty. He came in my house one day and my then 4 yr old was amazed with his gun. I told him then to take it to his car and not bring it in around the small kids. His problem was ego but mine was for the safety of my family.

21 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

Ya’all neg comments against him just uncalled for toward him n his family and the law that gives him a right to carry it…bet u they put up a firearm sign now!

3 · 21 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

He has carried that gun everywhere that is the first place who has denied him for being a police officer n by law allowed to carry his weapon

1 · 21 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Sandra you may know he’s a good guy… But how would anyone else know?

2 · 21 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

you should not assume he is a bad guy! Have you EVER seen a criminal carry a gun in a holster??? I surely have not ever seen one listed in an evidence report.

3 · 20 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

They did the best thing for all involved by calling Mans. Police to have him escorted out and checking to see that his story was correct. How many nuts have been in paper walking in shooting innocent people? This is why everyone is on alert anymore because you just never know what could happen at anytime.

1 · 21 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

My point exactly why did he have to carry that gun in there in the first place!

2 · 22 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

There ppl being shot everyday who is unarmed….HE went n for MEDICAL issues not to shoot the dam place up!

2 · 22 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

Who cares what he was wearing…and they could asked if he could unload it after mansfield pd confirmed it and he been a police officer my whole life he dont think he better than anyone else cause he has a badge n a gun

1 · 22 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

I know someone who was unarmed and shot by the police.
I’m not anti police but I don’t want a jumpy policeman either.

1 · 22 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

please do tell us who it is you know that has been shot as an unarmed civilian. I know of an instance, BUT the police went into the situation being told he had a gun. So tellme thats not the person you are referring to.

1 · 20 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

There comes a time when police are hyper vigilante. That’s not a good thing.

22 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

Sandra he was not in uniform ! not on duty ! and at a medical facility for himself so why not secure his gun until his visit was over? Some people are getting carried away with who they are and what they do and not using their heads to heed off problems.

1 · 22 hrs

Sandra Koren Lamb ·

Cook at Jane’s Hunger Paynes

The bullshit comments not called for…he is a police officer and he has every right to carry! Off duty or not what happens if ur ass is gettin robbed or raped or something and an off duty cop is there? U want them do nothing? BY LAW HE HaS EVERY RIGHT TO CARRY HIS GUN

5 · 22 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

I agree with Linda.

22 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Rich, you want an armed police officer to be in urgent care and I feel it’s hyper vigilance. You know the police have killed unarmed people because they think they’re reaching for a gun. Right?

22 hrs

Rich Armstrong

With that statement, we are done here. I would strongly suggest you go on a ride a long with officers in the flats of Cleveland. Or do as others like you have done and take the test officers take regarding shoot/no shoot scenarios and you will see it’s not as easy as judging someone after the fact.

1 · 22 hrs

Mike Monroe ·

Butler, Ohio

If you are speaking of the GARBER case you need to just stop! It wasnt found out until AFTERWARDS that he was unarmed. His own Father gave a statement that he believed his son was armed as whatever was under his shirt appeared to be a gun to him, without a doubt. Open your mind and read the reports and statements. They arrived on scene with his wife on the 911 call telling them he had a gun, which she heard from his mother. It was such a scene that the grandmother had taken the kids from that residence and had them in her car. please correct me if I am wrong. I have listened to the 911 calls numerous times and also have read through the 300 plus page report from BCI. I can post the links for you if you would like.

1 · 20 hrs

Linda Shorter ·

Works at Retired

Your an auxiliary police man off duty with a medical problem WHY in the world would you NOT take off your gun and secure it before entering the medical building? Sounds like you have a ego problem to go along with your eye. Maybe a psych evaluation is in store for you now since you wanted this to be in the news for all to see.

1 · 22 hrs

Rich Armstrong

Denying care to a person based on occupation and occupational requirements is discrimination.

3 · 22 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Police do not need their guns in urgent care.

1 · 22 hrs

Rich Armstrong

Officers should be permitted to carry their weapons where ever they go. While there have been some who have gone rogue, the number is very very small compared to the number of criminals standing right by you every day without you having a clue the danger you could be in.

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Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Rich, bullying to you is if I don’t think an officer needs his gun in urgent care.

22 hrs

Rich Armstrong

Diane, this will go no where. In your world, everyone leaves their weapons at the door of a gun free zone. In reality, that is far from the truth as evidenced by the shootings in hospitals and various clinics around the country. I have the view I’d rather have an officer with a weapon rather than a criminal with a weapon in the clinic.

1 · 22 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Rich…. Meaning?

Rich Armstrong

He only had a problem with one eye, that does not incapacitate him from doing his job. While certainly not ideal, he can still function with that problem.

2 · 22 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

He has vision problems and still wants to carry that gun?

23 hrs

Rich Armstrong

Reading skills are a plus on these sites.

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Vicki Snow-Lawhun ·

911 Dispatcher at Richland County EMA

then lets say hes has vision problems and they let him DRIVE ? That is more dangerous then him carrying lol .

1 · 21 hrs

John Hess ·

Crestline, Ohio

He wasnt on duty just leave it in your vehicle…With all the killing by cops lately …they are no differant than anyone else…they can flip like anyone else…

2 · 23 hrs

Rich Armstrong

John, many departments require off duty officers to carry because they really are NEVER off duty in protecting citizens. Whether his department does or not require constant carry, I don’t know, but if he does, he can be written up for not following his protocol.

2 · 22 hrs

Jeff Brewer

keep it in his car so some thug ass can break his window out and steal it? The best place to have a weapon , is on one’s person.

1 · 19 hrs

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

To me it sounds like bullying. I’m not responding if you don’t let me take in my gun.

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Rich Armstrong

Certainly, Diane, I want to enter a situation where they are armed and I’m not allowed to be. Sorry – I’m not sacrificing my life for your misguided values. Reading is a basic skill in school. He began experiencing vision problems and went to be checked. One eye mind you and they are trained to shoot with either eye or hand. Btw, bullying would seem to fit you, not me. I’m not trying to browbeat an officer to not carrying while entering a dangerous situation.

1 · 23 hrs

Rich Armstrong

Many departments require officers to carry off duty because they are really never “off duty”. I would consider not ever responding to any incident at this location because of their idiotic attitude.

1 · Apr 13, 2015 4:14am

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Police do kill people who are unarmed by mistake.

1 · Apr 13, 2015 3:36am

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

I don’t take a gun in

Apr 13, 2015 3:35am

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Not usually

Apr 13, 2015 3:34am

Tim Clark ·

Mansfield, Ohio

Crime doesn’t occur in medical facilities?

http://daily-jeff.com/…/teen-shot-at-entrance-to-hospital

http://www.campussafetymagazine.com/…/shooting…/Default

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Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Joking right?

Apr 12, 2015 8:22pm

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Yea but why a hospital?

Apr 12, 2015 8:20pm

Terry Krise ·

Road Driver at Fedex Freight, retired

He’s a cop. He should never be with out his wepon.

3 · Apr 12, 2015 8:16pm

Diane Schroer ·

Clear Fork High School

Don’t see a reason he needed to take in gun…

1 · Apr 12, 2015 7:31pm

Jeff Brewer

its his right.

1 · 20 hrs

 

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Message to Police from Josie the Outlaw, rings true here in Mansfield, Ohio.

Watch her video here on youtube, YES there’s much dialogue we need to discuss BEFORE this problem spirals out of CONtrol!

We have local LEO’s “WATCHING” the MP Group on facebook

Will this BEGIN the dialogue with the public who has concerns with the path we are on, or will they continue to remain silent in agreement with those who oppose tyranny? Working with one Church is great, but what about the rest of the people and their individual religious beliefs, what about them? Our founders framed our Country for separation of Church and State and here once again we pull the wool over the sheeps eyes.

You want to talk? The quit talking where the public is kept out for WE THE PEOPLE if you haven’t noticed hardly trust the media and their reports. The questions we have are why all the secrecy and why is it being reported OUR SHERIFF is scared because of FBI & US MARSHALLS? I am not making this up, just what we are told – TRUST, its a hard thing to achieve here…

So now, who wants to start the dialogue and talk here whether you use your name or fake account like their Drew Tyler, we want to hear from you!

Speak now or forever live in FEAR, this is NOT how you address the public, we want YOU PEOPLE in OUR MEETINGS on the record. BY LAW it’s the only way some of us will appear before you. No, we will not come into your black holes where people are known to come in and never leave or meet you without phones, camera’s at an undisclosed location like requested. That’s insane some will say?

You say?????

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#Mend Mansfield rally a political success, or distraction from what’s coming?

Now IF we could just get this kind of participation at the local meetings in which YOU can go on the record to hold City & County Officials accountable for “their” actions that are causing much of this violence.

WANT UNITY IN THE COMMUNITY? START WITH YOUR HOUSE AND YOU CAN FIX OTHERS. LETS START WITH QUOTES FROM THOSE A LITTLE MORE FAMOUS AND MAYBE YOU’LL GET THE DRIFT.

It takes many good deeds to build a good reputation, and only one bad one to lose it. – Tell that to the speaker of MP opposition Drew Tyler, now that’s ROTFLMAO cause THEY love this anonymous poster who attacks private citizens with “prove it”. You can’t IF LEO’s don’t enforce the law equally?

Drew Tyler wants to know one thing we accomplished as a group? The question Drew Tyler should say is what WILL THIS ACCOMPLISH when the Chief CLEARLY says crime will not stop? Sound like another group we met that says the Sheriff is scared, scared of what is the question? – I’m thinking the TRUTH, and being on the record before those who elected him. He was asked to attend OUR MEETING at the Commissioners office, yet he refused to show and the Commissioners say they can’t make him. Now that’s PUBLIC SERVICE when they want you to go where people don’t feel safe, the Sheriff’s office – Not many will honestly say they will go alone, now why is that?

Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company.

The way to gain a good reputation is to endeavor to be what you desire to appear.

Never make negative comments or spread rumors about anyone. It depreciates their reputation and yours.

My question is why the deception? They sent in the friendly faces yet left those who spread RUMORS from their badge that we are under a police state at home? I didn’t see one of their faces here, many of which you know hold a spot on the wall of shame who are now hidden behind the scenes doing what they always did, behind the scenes, right Drew Tyler spokesman for the opposition?

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/wallofshame.html

Surely it will not stop by raising taxes, that’s ALL this dog and pony show is about, looks more like a political rally more than anything else, am I WRONG? Here we have those who can enforce the law yet do not follow the law. Concerned citizens need to START asking how one group of people, the poor can be targets while others get professional courtesy and slaps on the wrist.

Nice distraction, now back to the issue you are being distracted by…the RAISING of taxes to pay for stuff like this.

Drew Tyler has spoken, the City and County are at war with Christmas, hate the Easter Bunny and ROTFLMAO behind their keyboards yet will give the people a warm fuzzy feeling we are here for you, now that’s ROTFLMAO! – THOSE here know how to enforce the law, but it DEPENDS on who you are whether or not if you are punished for your crimes.

Does the Mansfielders Perspective CONtinually have to point this out?

This is NOT the Transparency we are looking for, we have REAL issues and concerns that need addressed, not this distraction for raising taxes when the REAL issues are who’s next?

State your issues or concerns below in the comments, which by the way can be anonymous like Drew Tyler if you wish, but IF you want REAL credibility and recognition please be real by keeping it real.

Your thoughts, comments, issues are welcome here. Surely IF any opposition would have showed to this, and it would have if I didn’t have to work like many others today who are paying for this!

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Mansfield Tea Party Bloodofpatriots.org is laughing, are you?

Watch this 2014 video published Published on Mar 31, 2015 by BigMike101202 …

Judge DeWeese speaks, the people laugh?

The question here is…

IF YOU HAD A CHOICE, WOULD YOU VOTE AGAINST? HERE THEY DEPICT WHY NOBODY RUNS AGAINST DEWEESE, NOW THAT’S ROTFLMAO DREW TYLER! – (THUMBS UP)

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#MENDMANSFIELD IS SUPPORTED HERE – UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.

 SOUNDS LIKE MANSFIELD WANTS TO TALK, AND BOY ARE THEY. NOW DREW TYLER THIS IS ROTFLMAO!

TELL IT LIKE IT IS MANSFIELD, IT’S ABOUT TIME MORE STARTED GETTING INVOLVED. NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/

How do we ‪#‎MendMansfield‬? Share your thoughts with us on social media using the hashtag #MendMansfield.
The goal of Mend Mansfield is to stop senseless violence in Mansfield and Richland County. A march and rally are planned for Saturday afternoon, stepping off at 1:30 p.m. at Mount Calvary Baptist Church, 343 N. Main St., Mansfield. Participants will march to Johns Park, where the rally will take place. (Story: http://ohne.ws/1Fho34l) News Journal staffers will be with marchers along the way and at the park, looking for local reaction and comments. We want to hear what you have to say.
Together, we can #MendMansfield.

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  • Gary Messersmith I’ll tell you what’s NOT going to mend Mansfield. Marches and rallies! A good start would be meaningful, living wage jobs for these young people. They can see there is no future for them working retail and fast food. The lure of drug money compared to minimum wage “would you like fries with that” jobs is going to win time and again. They aren’t too blind to see all of the factories that have been torn down and the jobs that went with them. Work on that, have the parade later and more people will bring their families to cheer you on.
    • Sherry Deel Wrong. There are MANY jobs here in Mansfield, many in factories that CANNOT be filled because these young people u speak of have very little education. Educating the kids is where it has to start. There are lots of engineering jobs with no engineers, because THERE ARE NO ENGINEERS. And keep in mind a great deal of these young people aren’t actually SELLING drugs & making money. They are TAKING drugs…..& dying. They are stealing & hussling to make enough $ to get their next fix. It has to go back to the schools. These kids need to be educated, & educated on drugs. They need pointed in the right directions instead of toward the streets.
      Like · 8 · 23 hrs
    • Madeline Rome The funny thing is, I see some of these “kids” dealing on my corner and then the same ones I’ve seen working at McDonalds on trimble lol
      Like · 4 · 23 hrs
    • Gary Messersmith We have been”educated on drugs” since way before the 60’s. I don’t see it working very well. Most of these kids can’t afford to go to college for 4 1/2 years to get an Engineering Degree. I know what they cost, my oldest is a Chemical Engineer. And even if they could you can only employ so many at the top of the pyramid. And most of those positions would have been filled years ago by the worker that had been doing the job in the plant for the last 15 years. You know, back before you needed a degree to be smart. now they want an engineering degree to change the paper in the towel dispenser. But the cold truth remains, we have lost way more good paying jobs than we currently have. And it shows.
      Like · 1 · 5 hrs
    • Leigh Oden Sherry, I get where your are coming from, but but it goes back to parenting. When parents make education a priority and support the schools then we see success in the community. How many kids in our school systems have parents who are in prison for drugs or other offences and being raised in the foster care system by strangers or extended family members? Schools can only do so much and it is unfair to think that they can work miracles. Gary, a living wage and skilled labor education is a place to start. I can’t speak for Madison Comp but I know that Pioneer Career and Technology Center has a high requirement standard to be accepted into their programs. I am sure that at one time Mansfield was a great place to live. Parents grew up there, grandma worked as a nurse at GM and grandpa worked for Bissman. I moved to a neighboring community because I didn’t feel safe in my own home.
  • Heather Coles Who will you look down on? Who will you call names and make fun of with your conservative overtones?
    Who will you lie about?


    You better get a back up plan.
  • Madeline Rome Personally, I think it’s rediculous that it took this long and all this senseless violence to realize Mansfield needs “mended”! Face it Mansfield has been in a downward spiral for a long time and everyone just kind of brushed it off, between drugs, thugs, abandoned homes, decreased jobs that don’t pay enough to live on (that dont require a college degree), corrupt cops ( not all of them are bad), and hardly anywhere for our adolescents to go to stay out of trouble, why does it take multiple acts of senseless violence to wake people up!!!
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  • Milisa Maclin I ll b there to say what I got to say no post today
  • Angela McCallister I say the march is a start but it. Will take alot more to fix mansfield
    Like · Reply · 1 · 13 hrs
  • Vicki Carpenter Great idea good luck bless you
  • Kyle ShaBam Everyone’s criticizing this. Is it not a start? At least people care about our community enough to try. Do we need jobs and everything else as well here? Absolutely, but it won’t come overnight. This is a start to addressing the violence and issues and I commend the community for trying! ‘Salute’
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  • Marie Doan I’ll March
    Tell me where start up will be and what time
    I will bring folks!!
    • Kizzy Williams Agenda for the MEND MANSFIELD COALITION “Unity in the Community” March/Rally
      Saturday, April 11, 2015


      Set Up: 12:00 to 1:30 p.m.

      Participants with information tables can set them up at Johns Park. The tables will be on the basketball court. Tables and chairs will be provided.

      All other participants should meet at Mount Calvary Baptist Church, 343 North Main Street for set-up and registration.

      March Begins: 1:30 p.m.

      The March starts at Mount Calvary Baptist Church and will be lead by Mansfield Police Chief Ken Cootnz, Pastor Derek Williams, and other city officials. Mount Calvary Baptist Church will provide rides for seniors who wish to participate. If your organization has access to a van or bus and can also provide rides for senior or those who can’t walk, you are encouraged to do so.

      The March will end at Johns Park and the Rally will take place upon arrival. Water and light refreshments will be provided.

      There will be a Press Conference regarding the Mend Mansfield Coalition March/Rally on Friday, April 10, 2015 starting at noon in the lobby of the Renaissance Theatre, 138 Park Avenue. West.
    • Kizzy Williams Your Welcome
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  • Ayeesha Owens Get ur police department together. They are know for abusing people.
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  • Barb Procker How about a better court system !!!!!!!!! One that actually PUNISHES drug and alcohol offenses, as well as gives fathers equal rights in custody cases. How about a county child PROTECTION Agency that can recognize that kids should not be put back with parents who are receiving a slap on the hand for offenses that effect their ability to care for their kids. These kids are not only being neglected due to the parents addiction, but also seeing that there are no consequences for not following rules/laws.
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  • Kizzy Williams The March is just a start….We recognize Mansfield is going to need much more. Mend Mansfield Coalition will not stop after this Rally! All these issues your expressing have already been discussed. Why knock the efforts we are doing now if the problems still exist. Why not be thankful its happening at all and someone cares and see these issues? Why have any negative opinion about a coalition established to help mansfield. Why knock something you don’t completely understand before seeing if its helpful?If you don’t want to participate stay home. If you think were not doing enough….you do something! we all live in mansfield..this is all of our problems..I seen many listed but what are you…the people listing all those issue DOING?
    Like · Reply · 10 · 12 hrs
  • Jj Steelers This isn’t going to work. You can’t stop violence. This will all be ignored by most people. If that’s all Christians want to do is March to end violence and pray. But ignore what could work like jobs education, let me know how this turns out
    Like · Reply · 1 · 12 hrs
  • Marie Doan It’s not going to stop it but it sure the heck going to open eyes and get people aware and enlighten to see what can be done !!
  • Michael Wuicik Mansfield needs things for the youth to do so they stay out of trouble more cops on the streets in the slums of Mansfield and harsher punishments for robbery and other crimes kids under the age of 18 need to be in by 10pm 18 year olds by midnight. If they aren’t they are taken to dh for the night as well as fines.
    Like · Reply · 3 · 12 hrs
  • Jj Steelers 18 year olds have no curfew. 18 year olds can’t go to Dh. Good luck with that
  • Heather Coles https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pWp6kkz-pnQ

    Bruno Mars sings about not giving up! If you’re watching videos with your preschooler and would like to do so…
    YOUTUBE.COM
  • Ron William Lamb Jr. Right, and there is already a curfew for under 18
  • Matthew Miller Bull doze the whole city
    Unlike · Reply · 4 · 10 hrs
  • Suanne Hill 1.Encourage marriage…statistic prove 2 parent households work much better.
    2. Character training home and church.
    3. Televisions portray fathers as stupid and lawlessness as cool! Limit it severely.

    4. Discipline at home and school …again reinforce character traits you desire.
    5. Stop with the blame game…own your mistakes.
    Like · Reply · 1 · 10 hrs
  • Dawn Scanlon O’Shell Start with the parents let’s educate them on how to raise children.
    Like · Reply · 2 · 8 hrs
  • Tyson Tridico Matthew Miller that might have been the best comment I’ve heard
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March Rally Planned to counter violence – Did they get their permit?

March, rally planned to counter violence

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More than 75 people came together Tuesday at Mount Calvary Baptist Church to continue the conversation about stopping violence in the city and Richland County.

Pretty good considering we can’t muster 50 needed to seat an Independent Grand Jury to STOP corruption in Richland County that’s driving this! – Info on Common Law Study Group

By the end of the two-hour meeting, local leaders were standing up to express concern about topics including jobs and helping convicted felons get jobs and transition from prison to the outside world. The County RAISING TAXES takes 3 Million out of the local economy, good luck with this when ordinary folks without a record can’t get a job. 

The Mend Mansfield Coalition announced plans for a Unity and Community rally and march from the 343 N. Main St. church to Johns Park.

Organizers are asking people to gather at noon Saturday at the church, said Mount Calvary Pastor Derek Williams. The march will leave the church at 1:30 p.m. for Johns Park, where the latest shooting occurred.

The outpouring of community support follows four shootings March 29-30 in Mansfield.

“It’s not north or south problem, or east and west; it’s a Mansfield issue,” Williams said. “Crime hurts all of us. Crime has no sector.”

Dorian Voltaire, 28, was shot twice in the stomach in what appears to be an attempted robbery at 111 1/2 Wood St., and 16-year-old Ashton Auflick was believed to be shot in the same encounter before running to Blymyer Avenue. – Tired of hearing this story, maybe time to tell the truth? Follow the money he had, nobody publicly saying where he got such a sum to carry on the streets?

Lamonte Gordon, 27, suffered a gunshot wound to the arm during a fight at Baku Grotto Hall.

Thirteen hours later, Jacques D. Sutton, 23, was shot in the right arm/elbow area at Johns Park. Shooting suspect Khairi Bond, 19, was arrested on a felonious assault warrant and remains incarcerated, according to Richland County Jail records.

All four shootings remain under investigation, the Mansfield Police Department said, but officials added the shootings are not isolated incidents. – No they are not, much of which surrounds MPD Officer Garn, dead Leicy, and CONflicting reports from those who reported her missing, one being a young lady on a probation violation who is said to have a back page account as a prostitute who has made claims another officer assaulted her before fleeing to San Antonio,Texas.

“As long as I’m pastoring here in Mansfield, my wife and I have made a commitment to the betterment of this community,” Williams said. “I want to make an impact. We want to secure Mansfield, but I want this message of unity to spread across Ohio.”

The Rev. Thomas Hunt said change can occur only if people come together and march in unity for the community.

“Talking to one another, not putting any race down or any other community down but realizing that we all have some special gifts to bring to the table,” he said. “Once those gifts are brought to the table we can utilize everyone’s gifts regardless of their background.

“Then we can make this a much safer place to be and a place where people from other communities can come and be part of Mansfield. Mansfield has great opportunity here so we can show the world how it’s supposed to be done.”

Prospect Elementary School Principal Kirsten DeVito said she wants more police and firefighters to come inside her building.

“Please come visit,” she said. “Wear your uniforms. Walk the halls. I know that several officers have done that. It makes a huge impact on the way our students look at law enforcement.”

Kizzy Williams of the North End Community Improvement Collaborative said she thinks there must be more people being vocal and taking as many youth as possible under their wings and showing them new things.

“You’ve got to give our youth something to look up to,” she said.

The march will follow Springmill Street to Bowman Street to Harker Street and into Johns Park.

Booths will be set up in the park by involved organizations, and the march will be escorted by the Mansfield police and fire departments.

Better ask safety director Lori Cope about your permit, it says you need more time to organize such an event? Oh, that’s right, it depends on WHY you are Marching, they don’t believe the system is corrupt and this is the reason for all the violence. 

“If we can manage to have a Halloween parade with thousands of people in attendance, we certainly should be able to do a gathering of our community to get people here,” Mansfield police Chief Kenny Coontz said. “It’s nice. It’s wonderful to see this. It’s very heartfelt from everyone who is involved to make this occur. – Good luck, our group reached out to another group in need of help to expose corruption, come to find out the Sheriff is scared and will only meet with people he knows, off the record, no recording devices????

“We will guarantee it will be a warm reception for everybody that shows up. Police will be there. We will keep everybody safe. This is truly about coming together in the community to try to have an impact on violent crime.” – IF police are there I hardly believe many will show knowing there ARE bad eggs we can’t trust.

Richland County Sheriff J. Steve Sheldon, in law enforcement for 40 years, said the drug problem is bad and a lot of crime comes out of drug problems. Until the Sheriff quits placing blame on drugs the better off we are! I can’t believe he’s not mentioning much of this stems from those who are placed in halfway houses who should be in prison, case in point where troubled ladies are getting abused in the system by those who supervise allowing them to run back page accounts while on probation?

He talked about Project Starfish, which he and Shelby Pastor Thomas Snyder started to help people addicted to drugs, alcohol and other addictions.

“You could have 10,000 elected officials in this county and they’re not going to do any good at all unless you’ve got community involvement,” he said. “I really applaud the chief and the pastor for getting this started. The sheriff’s office is on board with it.”

Williams agreed.

“It takes all of us to work together,” he said. “And we can do it together.” – I agree like many we can do it, but you can’t do it dividing and attacking others perspectives like they do here.

FIND DREW TYLER AND YOU WILL FIND MUCH OF THE PROBLEMS WE SEE TODAY? DREW SAYS ROTFLMAO AND PROVE IT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS STUFF, YET NOBODY CARES WHO DREW IS?

lwhitmir@nncogannett.com

419-521-7223

Twitter: @LWhitmir

How to help

For more information about the march or getting involved in the movement to end violence in Mansfield, call Kizzy Williams at 419-524-7993.

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‘Most Wanted’ not complying with supervision conditions???

It’s getting harder and harder to tell who the sociopaths are…

Those who run these places or those who “successfully” go thru them?

Don’t you worry, we are gonna RAISE THE SALES TAX so the sister company CAC – Community Alternative Center can do as well?

Criminals paying for their crimes in the U.S.? – Now you know WHY Drew Tyler is CONstantly ROTFLMAO?

Money Makers YES!, successful? – NO!

Most of today’s crimes stem from those who are in these programs. Remember the one as of late who went thru this program that was said to be MISSING? She was “successful” UNTIL getting caught in a prostitution ring? Now you know why Drew Tyler is ROTFLMAO, yet lies about the creator of truth MP? – Now you know why, the TRUTH is embarrassing.  What’s your PERSPECTIVE on this?

Comment anonymously below, we all know Drew Tyler the queen of anonymous will? Maybe not now knowing the MP has their number, now that’s ROTFL!

‘Most Wanted’ not complying with supervision conditions

Terry Long successfully completed a stint at the local Volunteers of America.

The time since then has proven more challenging.

“Since Long’s release from the VOA, he has had a history of not complying with the conditions of his probation,” said Bruce Osborn, a member of the Richland County division of the Northern Ohio Violent Fugitive Task Force. “He has a history of drug use and theft offenses.”

Long, 36, signed up for probation in late January. His original charge was breaking and entering.

He is 5 feet, 11 inches and weighs 190 pounds. He has blond hair and blue eyes.

Anyone with information on Long’s whereabouts is asked to call the task force at 419-774-3565 or 866-4-WANTED.

People also can text the keyword “WANTED” and send a tip to 847411, or go to a link at www.usmarshals.gov/district/oh-n/fugitives. Reward money is available, but tipsters also can remain anonymous.

“Most Wanted” is a weekly feature of the News Journal.

mcaudill@gannett.com

419-521-7219

Twitter: @MNJCaudill

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Is there a special rule not to give folks their medication to justify murder?

Man Pulled Over for Window Tint Dies After Police Refuse Him Access to His Inhaler!

Dear police that observe this page, If someone is asking for their medication GIVE IT TO THEM!
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If people remember the story now that its been over a year, that’s ALL Brian needed, when the story unfolded it was said his wife flushed his meds for depression down the toilet that brought on his anger? Hours later he was shot dead!, this kind of crap is something we are hearing waaaaay too often where people die needing their medication. From what I am being told by a LEO who knows about 60% of law enforcement of one sort or another takes medication. What would happen IF we took theirs away? – The MP Admin agrees, give them their meds!!!!  – Remembering Brian Garber

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Detroit, MI– Internal affairs is investigating a death in police custody after 24-year-old Anthony Damone Clark Reed was left dead following a traffic stop. He was pulled over for the victimless “crime” of tinted windows during a personal medical emergency around 9 pm on Monday.

The father of Reed, Pastor Kevin Clark, is speaking out and saying that his son’s death was caused by negligence on the part of the Detroit police. The pastor also says that the negligence continued after his death, when they failed to contact the family for over two hours.

During the stop over the windows on his new Dodge Charger, Reed, who has previously been hospitalized for asthma, told the officer he was having trouble breathing. Reed reportedly went to reach under his seat during the stop, which his father believes was to look for his inhaler, and for unknown reasons ended up handcuffed and thus denied access to his medication.

The lack of oxygen caused him to fall unconscious while in the officer’s custody.  At this point the police reportedly gave the dying young man his inhaler, but it was too late, and CPR as well as other efforts to revive him proved fruitless.  He was pronounced dead at the hospital.

“Officers did stop the gentleman for a traffic violation and subsequently he exited the vehicle … had an asthma attack,” Detroit Police Officer Jennifer Moreno of the Media Relations Department told MLive. “They gave him his inhaler (and) they administered CPR when the gentleman passed out and then (an ambulance) was ordered … “

While the department has been tight-lipped about the traffic stop and why Reed was handcuffed over such a silly infraction, his father has been outspoken in discussing what he believes happened.

“He was gasping for air, looking for his inhaler [as he was driving],” Pastor Clark suggested to the Huffington Post. “When Detroit police pulled him out of the car he was already in panic mode … and they handcuffed him, and he’s trying to tell them he can’t breathe. I believe it caused his death … He dropped dead right there, in the hands of Detroit police officers who were negligent.”

 

After allowing Clark’s son to die, the department was slow to provide him with any information.  The department has since apologized for their failure to speak to him until the following morning.

“Why wasn’t there an officer there to talk to me and tell me why we had lost our only son?” Clark asked. “Why was there complete silence about his death until 8:30 the next morning? … Something happened that they did not want the public to know about, least of all me.”

Clark has stated that he appreciates the apology and does not believe that the department meant to kill his only son, but does believe that they are responsible for his death.

“I think they were very negligent. I don’t think they meant to kill him, I just think they were truly, truly negligent, because they did not know that Anthony, upon pulling him out of the vehicle, know that he was in distress,” the pastor told MLive.

An official cause of death has not yet been determined and the department has said that they intend to reach out to the family to provide more answers and excuses in the coming days.
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pastors-24-year-old-son-dies-traffic-stop-tinted-windows-asthma-emergency-police-inhaler/#I9qiCSMpxPCBd5y6.99

 

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I wonder if the prostitute picked up knows who killed Leicy? The ties are surely there! (Ashland)

I hope the investigators don’t drop the ball on this one, maybe once and for all they can crack this backpage group known to be used by LEO’s, Judges, Attorney’s. Having this girl STILL ALIVE could open some eyes to what’s going on around here?

I wonder WHY nobody is asking…How does one who’s on probation run such an elaborate operation without those supervising even having a clue? – NOW YOU KNOW WHY DREW TYLER IS ROTFLMAO, THEY KNOW????

Police: Missing woman picked up in prostitution sting

Ashland County woman found Thursday in Toledo was picked up in a prostitution sting, according to police.

Although Toledo police said no charges were filed in connection with the sting, the police report said she made an agreement with an undercover police detective for sex.  – Are we sure it was an undercover police detective and not a cop like this one, how’s a prostitute to know? I was told this girl may have knew what happened to Leicy being she too is from Ashland where her body was found and this cop resides on house arrest?

Alyssa Whitcomb, 22, was reported missing March 4 from the Toledo Volunteers of America. A family member reported seeing her photo on a website called backpage.com in an advertisement.

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She was incarcerated at the Lucas County Sheriff’s Office’s correctional facility, according to the jail staff.

She was booked into the jail at 5:58 p.m. Thursday on a existing warrant out of Richland County for allegedly absconding supervision from a VOA facility on March 5, having been arrested by Toledo police Thursday at 521 E. Central St., according to staff at the jail.

In Mansfield, she pleaded no contest to a charge of possession of cocaine, a fifth-degree felony, in Richland County Common Pleas Court and was given diversion Feb. 24, 2015, according to court documents.

PREVIOUSLY: Alyssa Whitcomb missing 9 days, family launching search

A warrant arrest and indictment was issued to the Richland County Sheriff’s Office on Aug. 12, 2014, for Whitcomb on a charge of possession of cocaine, according to court documents.

The Richland County Sheriff’s Office picked her up Friday and she was in the Richland County Jail Friday afternoon, according to the web site.

A post on the Ashland Police Division Facebook page Thursday night said: “We are happy to report missing person Alyssa Whitcomb has been found. We don’t have any details to report at this time.”

A dispatcher at the Ashland Police Department on Friday morning said a family member called in to the department to report the woman was found.

Whitcomb disappeared March 4 from the Toledo Volunteers of America, where she had been in a drug rehab program. As part of the program, participants are given help finding jobs to pay off their court fees.

She had been on her way to a job interview around 2 p.m. March 4 at Downtown Latte Coffeehouse on St. Clair Street but never showed up, according to information family members said they received from Toledo police.

A Mansfield friend in the program went with Whitcomb to the interview, said Whitcomb’s mother, Jessica Long. Both were supposed to return to the VOA by 4 p.m. The friend returned, but Whitcomb did not, the News Journal earlier reported.

The friend reported not knowing what happened to her.

On Friday, Long said only: “I got to speak to her and I told her we loved her and she will be safe now.”

She said God answered the family’s prayers and that she would like to have people keep praying for Whitcomb to have strength.

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