MCS School Tax Levy Passes, but! – City school district requests fiscal emergency?

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At least those Tygers got honorable mention?, at this point – WHO CARES?, you’re broke!, why is that is the question? You just took Millions more out of the local economy by your numbers, wth?

My single BIGGEST QUESTION is…How in the hell to you pass a levy only a few short weeks ago, then announce a request for Fiscal Emergency? The question the people who send their kids to this school, do you REALLY want these same people educating your kids?

  • Michelle Smith-Lee · Mansfield Senior High School

    My problem with the Mansfield School District is they need to care more about the students instead of only worried about how much will go in their pockets. It’s so aggravating and depressing that there are so many students that graduate from there and can barely read and write. There are way too many students per class so there is barely any one on one help. They would rather throw a child on the IEP program instead of trying to work with them because they get $4000 extra per every student that is on an IEP program. I know this first hand because they tried to throw my son on one because I was questioning teachers about their ability to teach these students. They really need to worry more about these kids’ education. They have lost many students for this reason, and the number of students leaving the district grows every year. They want to cut so many costs that half these students don’t even have text books. I’m so disgusted with Mansfield city schools, there are so many students that just fall through the cracks. It’s just sad that the district is more worried about everything but the children. Just my opinion!
    • Joe Dinger · Top Commenter · The Ohio State University

      You said: “There are way too many students per class so there is barely any one to help.” Did you ever consider that the reason for this is not enough money to hire more teacher? Probably not.

      The number of students leaving the district does not grow every year. The loss of most students in the past few years was because of one superintendent who never should have been hired.

      Giving misinformation never helps. How do you expect things to improve if people vote levies down. If you are unhappy with the way schools are funded your argument is with the Ohio Supreme Court, not individual school districts.

  • Howard Webber · Top Commenter · Crafton Hills College

    If I was the state, I would say when you can bring your grades up, we might think about it not until.
    • Joe Dinger · Top Commenter · The Ohio State University

      If more teacher are cut how do you think that will help bring grades up. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
    • Michael L. Maurer · Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

      Joe Dinger

      [“U.S. education spending tops global list, study shows”]

      {“The United States spends more than other developed nations on its students’ education each year, with parents and private foundations picking up more of the costs, an international survey released Tuesday found.”}

      {“Spending, of course, only tells part of the story and does not guarantee students’ success. The United States routinely trails its rival countries in performances on international exams despite being among the heaviest spenders on education.”}

      Well, USA public education is indeed way too expensive and yet we still lag other countries. So the idea that excessive public education costs will make us smarter doesn’t fly.

  • Vicki Snow-Lawhun · 911 Dispatcher at Richland County EMA

    Thank you guys I thought I was the only one that thought this 🙂
  • Emily A. Rain · OSU

    “State funding is not what it used to be and so this is the result of it,” he said. Then why aren’t other districts in this county having fiscal emergency problems. This is called over spending !
  • Michael L. Maurer · Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

    There’s got to be something bad wrong with Mansfield S.D. fiscal management. Year after year they cry about fiscal deficits and crisis. Levies are passed and they still say they are going into the tank. Once again Mansfield S.D. is one of the highest cost districts in the state. Other schools with the same enrollment are considerably less costs. Mansfield SD cost is almost $15,000 per student. The total expenditures is about $51 million. This is ridiculous and major surgery is needed. The next time you hear it’s all for the kids and the school wants more tax money remember the great percentage of those tax dollars goes to pay for the contracts for public school employees and administrators.
    • Emily A. Rain · OSU

      I totally agree with everything you are saying.
    • Vanessa Ramirez · Ashland, Ohio

      While I agree with your concerns on spending I think we need to remember that these cuts are going to severely affect the children who depend on this district for their education….. Brian is right that education needs to be funded differently we have over 5 million dollars in unpaid property taxes in Mansfield….. year after year that number gets bigger and bigger….. So what’s the solution? Get rid of everyone? Then what? Who’s going to teach our kids? The charter schools are failing too so where do they get their education?!?!?
    • Michael L. Maurer · Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

      Vanessa Ramirez

      How will reasonable cuts severely affect the kids? Well, I just checked two sources and both said the student teacher ratio is 12 students per full time teacher. The average in Ohio is 16. I also noticed 23% of the students are Individualized Education Program (IEP). That runs up red flag in my mind. 55% is spent on instruction and the balance on support services and other expenditures. Here is a chart of MSD total operating funding local, state, federal (state provides almost 50% of the funding). Please note at the bottom of the chart an increase in percentage of funding and substantial percentage of decrease in enrollment.

      Lastly test scores are still way below state average. Doesn’t it beg the question what are the taxpayers getting for their money and why does MSD cost so much.

    • Vanessa Ramirez · Ashland, Ohio

      So where should students go to to school then? And your ratio is wrong for teacher to student ratio….. I know someone who has 20 students in her class 5 of them are IEPS and on full inclusion… These are third graders by the way…. I would love to hear your solution to this problem since you have so much knowledge of the subject….. making statements that aren’t true about a district you don’t teach in only causes more trouble… If you’re not part of the solution your part of the problem….
    • Joe Dinger · Top Commenter · The Ohio State University

      Of course most of a districts budget goes for salaries. It’s a school, not a factory. There is no expense for materials.
    • Michael L. Maurer · Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

      Vanessa Ramirez

      I didn’t say close the school. I said reasonable cuts as I seriously question the financial management of the school district. Their operating expenses are too high. The ratio was an average not just one class. What I said was true – Mansfield S.D. is one of highest cost schools in Ohio and one of the lowest in student performance on tests below Ohio average. When student enrollment decreases the costs should not increase. You offer no solutions. Just defending what is indefensible. One thing is for sure throwing more money at the problem will not resolve anything. I’m causing you trouble because I’m pointing out an obvious problem you don’t like to hear. Right, I’m not a teacher but I am taxpayer.

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