The News Journal has now found their way to suppress the oppressed – lol!

We knew this was coming!. First THEY have CENSORED their commentors, now they will make us pay for taking away from their misleading paid articles which we refute on a daily basis!

My question to the MNJ since I am just one of the MANY who are banned from speaking in their site. IF I pay to comment, will my voice now be heard?

The whole idea behind this liberal rags NOON CHAT is so the WORKING MAN will not argue these FACTS. The sheeple whom are home at this time are the ONLY ones they feel the need to cater too!.

This is WHY they are going broke and feeling the need to do this; those who PAY them to post their crap don’t like how it’s getting shredded on their opposers website – http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/ 

THEY threaten us who will speak out on the issues, and this is just a measure to gain the control they LOST over their readers – MAKE THEM PAY – LOL!

Making THEM pay means? – YOU will lose what’s left, unless of coarse you QUIT with the CENSORSHIP of those who REFUTE YOUR CRAP!

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34 Responses to The News Journal has now found their way to suppress the oppressed – lol!

  1. buckeyesyd says:

    There’s a lot here for sure, and what I find the funniest of ALL is…

    Even though there are MANY who are CENSORED and cannot speak, there are still plenty who are unhappy with the MNJ move.

    It appears looking at the names here it is funny how the Mansfield Occupiers are not blocked, isn’t that weird?, or is that par for this liberal rag which ONLY allows those to speak who agree with them?.

    Save this link, surely I will respond in due time to some of this. Only our local occupiers like the fact that this site will now charge and that it’s WORTH paying for?

    Well folks, that’s what you say when you’re the ONLY voice that can be heard. I’m sure those who get CENSORED are not agreeing with this!, nor are we gonna pay not only for NEWS, but ALL these paid ads we have to look through to get it!

    Let’s see if one of the DA’s nemesis come here to refute my view with their usual snide remarks, including their falsehoods to discredit?.

  2. buckeyesyd says:

    My comment, which is by the way banned – lol!

    Phil Sydnor · School of Hard Knocks
    Great job MNJ, this is a NEW beginning in TRUTHFUL reporting!, NOW NOBODY will be buying your nonsense…We have facebook and http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com for the NEWS. Peace out!

  3. buckeyesyd says:

    Josh Mckinney · SubscribeSubscribed · Top commenter · Hocking
    I am amazed that the MNJ thinks their content is so valuable….

    Phil Sydnor · School of Hard Knocks
    My sediments EXACTLY – what’s valuable is…THEY need to keep those who refute their crap at bay!
    This is the BEGINNING of the END in Bullcrap reporting!, I don’t see anyone paying to be CENSORED – LOL!.

  4. buckeyesyd says:

    Michael Koppler · Top commenter · Shelby High
    So does that mean if you subscribe to say the weekend or Sunday editions only, we won’t get the full access? Do people who subscribe to the paper for the 7 days a week get this access?
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    Melissa RamaleyNo. Any subscription will grant you full, 7-day access to all digital products: Web, tablet, mobile and e-newspaper. Good question.
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    David Kennard · Top commenter
    No. If you subscribe to Sunday only, you get Full Access. If you have a paid print subscription of any kind, you get Full Access.

  5. buckeyesyd says:

    Tim Theodorou · Top commenter · 29 years old
    I guess I don’t understand. Are you meaning to say that there will be a fee to read the MNJ online?
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    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Yes. The new subscription pricing is for full access to our content.
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    Jerry Lynch · SubscribeSubscribed · Top commenter · Mansfield, Ohio
    one would hope that the new pricing models are not like the umbrella types that will soon be the demise of cable television.

    will the news stand price increase?

    the news stand purchaser should not have to, in my opinion, subsidize electronic subscriptions.
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    David Kennard · Top commenter
    The single copy price is not increasing, only the subscription price. If you choose not to subscribe, digital access will be limited to a small number of articles each month. Some content will remain accessible all the time, with no limit — obituaries, classified ads and some other regular features.
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    Jerry Lynch · SubscribeSubscribed · Top commenter · Mansfield, Ohio
    that’s very fair. thanks for the reply.

    the problem that many of us will now have is how many electronic news/information subscriptions our budgets are sensible to manage in a month.

    a major electronic newspaper subscription will continue to be essential(the NYT for me).

    unfortunately, squeezing in local sites may be difficult.

    i will compare it to shelf space at the grocery. the big brands invariably edge out the local……

  6. buckeyesyd says:

    Lee Ann Hoffman · GlenOak High School
    So let’s quit beating around the bush, give us the numbers. We are adults, we can take it.
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    David Kennard · Top commenter
    What are you looking for?
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    Melissa RamaleyIf you’re looking for subscription costs, our new plans grant 365-day access to our content for about 33 to 66 cents a day. I encourage you to speak with someone in circulation for details on the various subscription plans.

  7. buckeyesyd says:

    LuAnn TrumpowerIf i subscribe to the “online” mansfield news journal – do i still have access to the fremont news messenger? I check their site out from time to time since that’s my hometown area.
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    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Your subscription to the News Journal is for the News Journal’s content only. Each Gannett newspapers has their own subscription model. This is similar to the content in the print edition.

  8. buckeyesyd says:

    Maria Ortasic · Top commenter · Ashland, Ohio
    watch out to all the “paper form” subscribers, when the people online don’t pay the $10 they want, they will just go after you and raise the price of the “paper form”.
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    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Current subscribers will see a rate increase. This is the first increase we have announced in five years. The online Full Access will be included in their subscription automatically. The content accessed through the Web, mobile, and tablet will be frequently updated and will provide coverage of breaking news and events through articles and photos as well as provide content that cannot be included in print, such as databases, streaming video, blogs and chats.

  9. buckeyesyd says:

    Kenny Bohland · Ontario, Ohio
    I subscribe to the daily home printed edition. What effect is this change going to have on my print rates? What if I want printed only, do I have to also subscribe to online? In other words will my present rate increase for the paper to my house?

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    The subscription price of the News Journal is increasing slightly. This is the first time we have raised our rates in five years. However, you will continue to pay what you have been paying until your current contract runs out. Full Access, which includes everything you get in print, plus every electronic platform — web, tablet, e-Newspaper — is an automatic bonus for all subscribers.

    If you choose not to access content online, you don’t need to do anything. Or, you may want to give your non-print access to anyone you choose — a family member or friend. They in turn will have five “sign-ons” including one “shared” subscriber, who in turn can have five log-ins. So in essence your subscription pays for your print edition and 10 online subscriptions that can be used by whoever you choose.

    I encourage you to speak to our customer service folks at 419-521-7297 if you have more questions about your current subscription.

  10. buckeyesyd says:

    Michael Koppler · Top commenter · Shelby High
    I must admit, they do keep the website up to date on all of the news information, unlike a certain papers website in a small town named Shelby. I think that’s one paper that really doesn’t need a website if they can’t keep it up to date with information, having the same story on there for a week or two isn’t very helpful with keeping the people in town up to date.

  11. buckeyesyd says:

    Linda Casler Carver · The Ohio State University
    I for one will be dropping my print subscription to replace it with the online version. I have been receiving the printed version but rarely really read it. By the time I get home and read the paper, I have already seen everything I am interested in online. I have only continued the printed version because I felt bad about not paying anything for the news.

    Melissa RamaleyWe’re happy to bring you the news however you want to receive it. And now you have more options than ever. Thanks for reading.

  12. buckeyesyd says:

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Thanks for the informative link. Beginning Aug. 1 MansfieldNewsJournal.com subscribers can access content anywhere and anytime using digital platforms. The content accessed through the Web, mobile, and tablet will be frequently updated and will provide coverage of breaking news and events through articles and photos as well as provide content that cannot be included in print, such as databases, streaming video, blogs and chats. The subscription pricing is aligned with content value. If you choose not to subscribe, digital access will be limited to a small number of articles a month.

    Drenn Workman · Top commenter · Mansfield Ohio State University
    Speaking about blogs… I blog fairly frequently, am I going to have to pay to blog now?

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    No. Your blog is yours. We only provide the platform to host it.

    Drenn Workman · Top commenter · Mansfield Ohio State University
    Thank you for your reply. $10 per month is not a hefty price and depending on the boss, my wife, lol, we will decide whether to pay it or not.

  13. buckeyesyd says:

    No Bull · Top commenter · Mansfield, Ohio
    Randy Allen, I said “instead of charging for the online news, charge companies to advertise on the online addition.” Same as you would in print, on the radio, or television. Statically, and this is from 2010 which means the numbers are probably higher now. More people use the internet than read newspapers, watch TV, or listen to an actual radio instead of a radio app online. Here’s what I pulled up; “American internet use catches up to TV.” bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/american-internet-use also this; “Survey: More Americans get news from internet than papers. articles.cnn.com/2010-03-01/tech/social.network.news_1

  14. buckeyesyd says:

    Thorvald J Runeskyn · SubscribeSubscribed · Top commenter · University of Life
    10 bucks a month? will that mean that most of our news is OUR news, and not some large percentage of irrelevant to US content from our “southern-most suburb, cinci-where-ever ” or our “neighboring” town, newark? somehow, i rather doubt it…. here is a FACT: i quit subscribin’ to the paper because of ” urine-poor ” delivery service, compounded by the FACT that with the size decrease and the price increase resulted in less value for the money spent, AND the simple fact that even though i paid via credit card, the billing came frequently, AND to a illegitimized rendition of my name…. there ARE alternatives to bein’ forcefed “content” at exorbitant prices, and they are FREE….. i have zero confidence in the ability of the newspaper version of clear channel radio to ever actually serve the needs of my community nor myself.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Thanks for the comment. I am sorry your newspaper service was so poor. I am forwarding your note to our circulation folks so they can determine if something can be done. Regarding the new content itself, non-subscribers will have access only to limited portions of the website. The digital platforms will be metered, meaning a non-subscriber will be able to access content up to a certain point. Home page, section fronts and classified verticals (i.e. cars.com) will remain accessible to anyone, even without a subscription.

    We invite you to join the live chat at noon Tuesday with General Manager Tom Brennan, who will answer questions about our new subscription model at MansfieldNewsJournal.com.

    Thorvald J Runeskyn · SubscribeSubscribed · Top commenter · University of Life
    i notice you did not address the issue of LOCAL news….
    i suppose that means it’s business as usual for gannett, fornicate the locate folk, local jobs, etc., all in the name of higher corporate profit…. be advised: myself and many others ARE locally driven, we support the locally-owned folks that HIRE locals and many of us would rather be somewhat inconvenienced waiting for a local business to get what we need delivered ( as well as pay a bit more ) rather than put another dollar into the coffers of some board of directors, et al., who truly will never see our community in any aspect other than red or black ink, in the name of expediency… i’ve seen nothing that gives me any reason to support ANY gannett assett, and in fact, i’ve seen more reason of late to AVOID supporting you and your ” corporate environment”…

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    I’m not sure what you are getting at. We have the largest news gathering force in the region — from our team of breaking news reporters to our in-depth/watchdog reporters, to our award-winning sports reporters. We have more than 30 journalists working in Mansfield to generate local content. We relay on our network of papers in Mid-Ohio to provide even more regional coverage. And of course we use the Associate Press and other news providers to give readers a state, nation and world report. However, subscribing to this content is a decision you will have to make.

    Thorvald J Runeskyn · SubscribeSubscribed · Top commenter · University of Life
    i’m ” getting at ” your corporate decision to move publication to newark or where ever it went… if you have so many local journalists, why is so much content from places like cincinatti, newark and other places , and so little of OUR news is published? i, for one, would really LIKE to know about the police incident where 5 cop cars, several firefighter vehicles and a couple squads all responded… nary a word regarding that or countless other incidents from your ” local ” journalists… how about when i’m forced to go 14 miles out of route because the RCSO has a road shut down? once again: never a single word, yet we get all sortsa inconsequential crap about some robbery in cinci, etc. ….
    sorry, charlie, errr, excuse me, david, your platitudes about breaking news/in depth reporting on a local level remind me of why i no longer care to work around a dairy farm….

  15. buckeyesyd says:

    Val Gayheart Kuenkele · Top commenter · Ashland
    Oh I am sure many people have asked why they don’t have to pay for NJ online..cuz so many ppl have extra money laying around that they want to pay for the paper…lol

  16. buckeyesyd says:

    Jim CarverDavid,
    Will the new format offer us a improved blog format? The app use to allow me to copy and paste text and pictures; but for month’s now it doesn’t.I have updated my Java settings and nothing has helped. To reduce my posting times it is quicker to link to another blog page. I have spoken to Holly regarding this and she is aware of the issues and others.
    Why doesn’t Gannett offer a fix or someone to actually contact for help?
    Will the blog format be the same for the subscription base plan as the non-subscription and will we be able to track our views? I appreciate the opportunity as a writer your newspaper has given me.
    Thank You,
    Jim Carver

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    As far as I know, Full Access will have no effect on the blogs. However, I will pass on your concerns to Gannett’s IT department. Thank you for contacting me.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Jim: Here the note back from our MNCO IT fellow, Ryan Cook.

    “The website isn’t changing immediately as part of the full access plan, so I don’t think there will be any immediate changes to the blogs Aug. 1. I believe a website redesign is set for sometime in 2013, but I don’t know details.
    “I’ll see what I can do regarding his technical issues.”

    Hope this helps. – DK

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Please contact rcook@gannett.com if you have more questions about your blog.

  17. buckeyesyd says:

    Tony Reale · Top commenter
    I don’t understand what all of the fuss is about! The MNJ is not a non profit company…

  18. buckeyesyd says:

    Jeanette Scarborough · Lexington, Ohio
    Sorry….mnj is not good enough for me to pay 10 bucks for. My old hometown boosted paper sales by posting all the mug shots of people that were arrested the day before. You wouldn’t believe how quick those papers would sell out….and they still do. LOL

  19. buckeyesyd says:

    James KnappI would think that advertising from businesses would cover the costs if done effectively. Surely by now the NJ could have a counter for web hits and be able to relay this to businesses that would guarantee them a traffic count on seeing their ads. If a charge is made on web content the traffic count will certainly be less, much less.

    Ginger Jordan Kunz · RCA at U.S. Postal Service
    I agree Jim!

  20. buckeyesyd says:

    Ronald Packer II · Top commenter · Ashland University
    All I have to say is this: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/paywalls-not-saving-newspapers/

    David Witt · Top commenter · Central Ohio School of Massage
    My guess is that the limitation on the number of articles viewable each month is going to be hackable.

    Ronald Packer II · Top commenter · Ashland University
    Well, honestly, the CMS that most papers use isn’t the most secure, to be quite honest. If they’d use real and local web developers (and no, I am not tooting my own horn here) instead of outsourced code mills they’d have more security, better PR and a nicer interface than the crappy ones they have.

    Ronald Packer II · Top commenter · Ashland University
    …and don’t get me started on the total crap apps they have for iOS and Android. I’ve made better fart soundboards than most of these media outlets have. Most are not Android tablet friendly and don’t allow the older OS versions (2.3.5 is the most popular out there and most media apps don’t run on anything higher than 3.1, which is sheer developer laziness and wanting paid faster). YES GANNETT, I’M TALKING ABOUT YOURS!

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Thanks for the feedback (it made me chuckle a bit). I will pass along your review to our corporate folks.

    David Witt · Top commenter · Central Ohio School of Massage
    Made me laugh, too. But, pssssssst, Ron, don’t give them too many ideas….

    Ronald Packer II · Top commenter · Ashland University
    Hey, if they actually listen to someone who does this for a living and is making a successful small business doing web sites, iOS and Android apps, I’m glad to hear it. As a local business owner I feel that local publications SHOULD listen to us. We’re the ones advertising with them, we’re the ones that hear about how bad apps, web sites and computers are and we’re the ones that read the news daily.

    If I listed all of my RSS feeds on technology and news it’d be a grocery list. For local news, I choose the MNJ. The WMFD Android app is horrible and looks like it was written by a 10 year old. The same company that did theirs did the Akron Beacon Journals and it’s the same layout, the same XML for different sized screens and such. I really hope the MNJ/Gannett won’t fall into the same trap. USA Today’s app is just as bad.

  21. buckeyesyd says:

    Kristen Webb Shoup I understand the need to generate more revenue. I stopped subscribing to the print MNJ a couple of years ago due to your “customer service” dept’s complete lack of ability to handle billing for subscriptions, and their nasty phone attitudes. I have enjoyed the content online, but no matter, I guess. I have subscribed to the Ashland paper for awhile, and like it just fine. Living in the north eastern part of Richland county, we get better coverage for schools and sports from the TG for our area anyway. I guess the MNJ will see how this pans out for them.

  22. buckeyesyd says:

    Peggy Goldberg · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company
    There are alot of people who wont be able to afford the price tag for internet viewing. If they could they would probably get the paper. Alot of people go to the library to view whats happening around them, and these same people dont have credit or debit cards and dont walk the streets to pay anything other than whats really necissary. Some go to their neighbors , relatives and friends just to check email, cause they cant afford to have any of the modern conviences. With the price of neccessity items the way they are, and the few jobs available they just will have to do without or go to wmfd.com for still free information. Now isnt the greatest time to be charging for whats been free for so long.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Non-subscribers will have access only to limited portions of our content. The digital platforms will be metered, meaning a non-subscriber will be able to access content up to a certain point. Home page, section fronts and classified verticals (i.e. cars.com) will remain accessible to anyone, even without a subscription. Also, friends or family members will be able to share their subscription with a limited number of people. This is similar to sharing a printed version of the paper with a family member.

    Peggy Goldberg · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company
    and how does this help the poor people? Or dont they matter?

    Bob Stevens · Top commenter · Lexington, Ohio
    MJN = We don’t matter starting August 1st

  23. buckeyesyd says:

    Elaine Baer · Top commenter · Works at Self employed web developer
    In one sense, $10/month doesn’t seem like too much for a good local news source. In the context of the wealth of other businesses that seem to be asking for $10 here or $10 there for a monthly subscription or a monthly fee, it becomes unaffordable for someone like me who isn’t making a very good income. I guess this will serve both as my “protest” (I felt like the number of ads I had to view for the few articles per week I read should have served as a trade-off for accessing those articles for free), and also as my fond farewell to my fellow anti-fracking friends in the Comments section. Keep up the great work you guys, and I’ll continue fighting fracking with you all out here in the “real world”!

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Thanks for your note. We are certainly asking consumers to make a choice. The subscription pricing is aligned with content value. If you choose not to subscribe, digital access will be limited to a small number of articles a month. Again, this model begins on Aug. 1. You may also want to talk to friends or relatives and consider sharing their subscription in an effort to make it more affordable.

    Elaine Baer · Top commenter · Works at Self employed web developer
    And although I wish this new pricing scheme wasn’t necessary and will unfortunately mean I won’t be able to keep up with local news in print anymore, I must express my sincere gratitude to the MNJ for covering the fracking issue so intensively and so fairly since their first article exposing the plans to construct the injection wells in Mansfield. Unlike many other small newspapers around the state, we here in Mansfield found out about those injection wells before they were ever built, allowing us time to mobilize opposition toward them. We’re now hearing that many other Ohio communities are not so lucky and are only finding out that there is an injection well in their town AFTER they are in use. So a belated THANKS to the MNJ for their early and thorough coverage of this issue.

    Annette McCormick · Top commenter
    David Kennard… $120.00 a year really does seem a high price to pay. You mention..talking to friends or relatives to help share, but would that really be OK? Several “friends” going together?
    It’s sad to read these comments and hear about the people who won’t be reading our local paper anymore. I would be glad to help out the woman above because I value her intelligent, well researched comments on the fracking issues in our area. I’m sure others do also.

    Elaine Baer · Top commenter · Works at Self employed web developer
    Aww, thanks for your kind words, Annette! I should have added to my original comment that it’s not that I necessarily expect local news to be FREE (even though I would think the number of ads surrounding the articles must bring in quite a bit of income to the newspaper). I just feel $120/year is much more than the content is worth to someone who only reads or skims an article or two a day and doesn’t have a great income (and I *only* read that many because they’re free, and I’m willing to take a chance on “clicking through” to see whether they’re of interest to me — often they’re not). I realize it would be more complicated, but it would be nice if a tiered system were offered. I would almost be able (and maybe even willing) to pay 50-60 a year to be able to read 1 or 2 articles a day. But $120 is something I can’t justify when I’ve had to let all my other subscriptions lapse over the last few years as my income has dwindled. If I had $120 a year to spend on print news, I’m afraid I’d go back to the British/international news weekly “The Economist”, which I used to read from cover to cover. 😉

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    As a full subscriber you can give your Full Access to up to five people — including one shared subscription that can in turn be shared with four other people. You control who you give your licenses to.

    Elaine Baer · Top commenter · Works at Self employed web developer
    Thanks, David. That is a very helpful option for people who can’t afford the $120/year. I can definitely afford a portion of the full subscription rate, so it looks like my friend and I might be sharing the cost of a subscription. Thanks for the additional details!

  24. buckeyesyd says:

    No Bull · Top commenter · Mansfield, Ohio
    Instead of charging customers for online subscriptions, charge for advertising in the online addition. It seems as there is a large market in advertising. I wish I had took classes in advertising than in tool and die.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Great idea. Advertisers do pay to reach our online audience. We would love to more.

    Randy Allen · Sr. Minister at Ontario Christian Church
    Advertisers will not be willing to shell out more when there will be a loss to the number of people viewing the website. To reach more advertisers you must prove that you have a base to reach.

    Ronald Packer II · Top commenter · Ashland University
    The issue with providing ads to users is put best in just a few simple words: adblock plus. I know I run it, as do most web-savvy users. I’m curious to see what MNJ’s browser stats are. Firefox, Safari, Chrome all have that plugin (or one like it) that totally block ads from view.

  25. buckeyesyd says:

    Kevin Baird · Chesapeake, Virginia
    This is really too bad. I am sure there are a lot of people who are in my situation. I no longer live in Mansfield having moved away last year. I used the MNJ website to stay up to date on what was happening in and around Mansfield. I am not willing $10 a month.
    Can you explain more on the free version? I saw you said Obits and Front Page. I could care less about Classifieds. Does this mean I can only read the headlines? I think you would be better served by keeping it free and the offering a Premium subscription the would be advertisement free.
    If you choose to head down this way, I am sure you will see the error of your ways in reduced traffic. You may gain some revenue for a while until folks get fed up because they are paying for a service that seems to never improve.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Non-subscribers will have access only to limited portions of our content. The digital platforms will be metered, meaning a non-subscriber will be able to access content up to a certain point. Home page, section fronts and classified verticals (i.e. cars.com) will remain accessible to anyone, even without a subscription. Non-subscribers also will have free access every month to a limited number of stories. This begins on Aug. 1.

    Maria Ortasic · Top commenter · Ashland, Ohio
    he means us non subscribers won’t get the “full” story anymore…they are going to let us read until we get into the story and then BAM… “Please insert credit card number here” comes flashing across your screen!

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    That is not accurate. Every month, a non subscriber will have access to a limited number of news articles — for free. You will not be blocked out based on the amount of “time” you are on.

  26. buckeyesyd says:

    Marji Hazen Free samples. That’s what the web had to be early on to attract users. But that time is past. Many of us who have been on line since the 1980s (Compuserve 1987 for me using the first privately owned Tandy 1000 in Columbus) suspected that someday that exciting toy, the internet would become a self-supporting conduit for thriving businesses. Cable TV is fast becoming old technology replaced by on-demand video streamed over the web. Instead of paying a flat fee for 20% desirable content and 80% drekk, we can now choose to pay for just the programs and movies we really want and possibly not spend as much per month as we would on a cable subscription. A ten dollar a month eSubscription for an excellent local news source like the NJ is certainly within my media budget. So where’s the subscription form?

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    https://ssl1.gmti.com/centralohio/forms/icon/mansfield/newicon.html

    You can also contact our local customer service folks at 419-521-7297

  27. buckeyesyd says:

    Deb Sharp · Top commenter
    you can say this is what your values are.. however, many in this community are barely able to feed their families… guess news will come at an even higher price.. horrible you must have cable in this area to get any tv.. now you must pay for the news… it is a sad day!!! guess I am done with MJN
    it is not about being free but Even $10 to some is more than they can afford to get basic news…

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    We would love to keep you as a reader. We simply cannot continue to provide our unique valuable content for free. The content accessed through the Web, mobile, and tablet will be frequently updated and will provide coverage of breaking news and events through articles and photos as well as provide content that cannot be included in print, such as databases, streaming video, blogs and chats. The subscription pricing is aligned with content value. If you choose not to subscribe, digital access will be limited to a small number of articles a month.

  28. buckeyesyd says:

    David Baker · North Central State College
    It has always been my understanding of the printed media that the subscription cost barely covers the cost of distribution. I have always been made to believe the true profit center in the printed media is with advertisement. It would only make sense that as news media makes the change to electronic versions the cost of distribution must go down. No cost of ink, paper, vehicles and the associated costs along with the expensive equipment to print the papers. I enjoy the current Mansfield News Journal site and visit it every day. I live out of town and it is an easy way for me to follow what is happening in Mansfield. I will have to say though if you start to charge I will get my news elsewhere. Free digital media is too available to pay for access to this web site.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Your understanding is basically correct. However the cost of paper has skyrocketed in the last decade to the point that subscriptions no longer come close paying for the production costs. This new business model removes that relationship altogether and places the value of the product where it should always have been – on the news content. Print subscribers will see a slight increase because we have kept our prices the same for five years. Full Access, which includes everything you get in print, plus every electronic platform — web, tablet, e-Newspaper — is an automatic bonus for all subscribers.

  29. buckeyesyd says:

    Bill VaughnHopefully you do not emulate the TG model by charging an astronomical price for online only. Being stationed elsewhere in the world, I will pay to maintain an air of understanding with regards to my hometown climate. But, if it costs too much, it would be just another cord severed between a temporary geographically separated Ohioan and his roots

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    The subscription rate includes all digital platforms. We have added increased local coverage and human interest stories. We are continuing to expand our coverage to include the stories that matter most to the community. These include local events, breaking news coverage, political announcements, and commerce reports. We will provide you with the most in-depth news coverage you should expect. If you choose not to subscribe, digital access will be limited to a small number of articles a month.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Some more detail that might be helpful. The online only subscription will be $10 per month. Also, if you have a relative who is a subscriber you will have access to their subscription online at no cost to you. So in many cases full access will continue be free.

    Robin Fraley Caudill · Top commenter · Ontario, Ohio
    David Kennard how about free subscription for our military who are out defending our rights? They need to be able to stay connected to home every way possible.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    That’s an idea worth exploring. I’ll contact our circ. folks and see if there is a discount plan of some kind in the works for such a worthy idea.

    Maria Ortasic · Top commenter · Ashland, Ohio
    only a discount for our men and women in uniform? Not free? really? smh everyone out to make a buck…in this case it’s 10. SHAME ON YOU!

  30. buckeyesyd says:

    Michael Lybarger · Top commenter
    The big winner in this deal is WMFD. The business model of charging a limited amount of customers, versus allowing unlimited customers to view ad filled content limits the amount of revenue to be taken in is ineffective. My assumption is the largest demographic of MJN subscribers is folks over 55. Where as the website demographic would be younger. While the number of customers still subscribing to MJN “in print” will still be the same, the revenue lost by decreased web traffic will not be made up by a small percentage of new digital subscribers. The proper idea would be to have a “free” premium sight that requires a log in, the info collected could be sourced to advertisers using Ad-Sense, or similar software.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    Thanks for the note. All great ideas. Gannett has chosen a different business model.

    All Full Access subscription options include:
    1) Unlimited access to our online content through your computer.
    2) Mobile access- both mobile Web and apps for iPhone and Android devices.
    3) Tablet access via Web with icon for “app-like” experience
    4) e-newspaper, the digital replica of the print newspaper, accessed online (a daily email is sent to subscribers for access to the e-newspaper)

    Content in the print version will continue to be enhanced. You may already have seen additional features added in the last few weeks. Our continuing focus on key topics that readers are most passionate about will continue. We also created a breaking news team to be more responsive to local events beyond crime and other emergencies.

  31. buckeyesyd says:

    Sarah Close It was a matter of time. Print media is dying. Companies need to survive somehow. The immediate answer for me unfortunately will just have to be wmfd.com.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    It’s the content, not the printing on paper that has the value. This move provides readers with more choices on how they would like to receive the content that you can get only from the News Journal. This Full Access subscription model allows us to invest even more in that unique local content we deliver across all platforms including tablet, mobile, and new technologies as they come to market.

  32. buckeyesyd says:

    Randy Allen · Sr. Minister at Ontario Christian Church
    This is a shame. The only papers outside of Gannet that I have seen do this in the past are much larger, and I simply don’t look at those.
    This simply confirms my decision to cancel the MNJ!
    I am sure that your advertisers are thrilled by this! If I paid for advertising on MNJ.com I would be pulling that money immediately – it will become a loss.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    We believe the new subscription options and prices more appropriately reflect the value of our content. As a media company, we provide news and information that has tremendous value for its readers; people rely on this information more than any other local source. We invest in the largest team of reporters covering our communities. We provide the greatest breadth of topics and content, with depth to help people understand important issues, and we provide a vital forum for community conversation.

    Randy Allen · Sr. Minister at Ontario Christian Church
    I do not intend to be rude, but you value your content VERY highly! $10 a month for online only?
    You have removed all of the printing from Mansfield. You have eliminated jobs in this area, outsourcing them to central locations, and you have left barely any presence in Mansfield. In a time when people are cutting back (my family has eliminated cable, home phone, and newspaper) this is not the time to be adding costs to deliver the news.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    You are not being rude at all. Your observations are correct. The news business has changed dramatically over the last decade. Although we have lost some jobs related to the printing of the paper, we have increased news content — which is where the value of this business is.

    Randy Allen · Sr. Minister at Ontario Christian Church
    I appreciate that the news content is where the value of your business is at this point. Dare I say that the people of Mansfield would put up with less content, keeping only what is necessary, in exchange for loyalty to this area with jobs and economic stimulation instead of an added cost to access news that is supposed to be so vital that you think people will pay for it?

    Peggy Goldberg · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company
    Increased? I dont think so. Theres less of actual news, I can find more news on wmfd that your paper doesnt have. Why very little on Lynn Jackenhiemers disappearance?

    Mark Bohland · Like Me at Maranatha Photography
    I can’t figure out why or even how (whether or not is is as good or as complete coverage as some might want) that anyone thinks they could provide the service for free. Not even the hard copy edition with all of its advertisements is free.

    Barb Webb · Mansfield, Ohio
    The print version keeps gettin smaller and smaller

    Val Gayheart Kuenkele · Top commenter · Ashland
    David Kennard- I believe this move may put you and the reporters out of a job. At least businesses are getting some benefit from advertising in your on-line format. I believe many will not pay to subscribe, I know I won’t…thus in the end, making it not beneficial for businesses to pay for ads. Which will be the demise of the NJ. I hope for your sake and others who work for the NJ that I am wrong…..

  33. buckeyesyd says:

    Deb Dowell Vaughn That is too bad because I, like many other people use the internet for MNJ and BTF not just because it is free but because it is more convienent and gives me only the updates I need and want. It has been environmentally friendly and it is also convienent! Forcing people to buy a subscription to read the paper online is not the answer! I guess after August 1st I will have to use: http://www.crawfordcountynow.com and wbco.com both continue to provide news for free on the internet.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    We believe the new subscription options and prices more appropriately reflect the value of our content. As a media company, we provide news and information that has tremendous value for its readers; people rely on this information more than any other local source. We invest in the largest team of reporters covering our communities. We provide the greatest breadth of topics and content, with depth to help people understand important issues, and we provide a vital forum for community conversation.

  34. buckeyesyd says:

    What they’re saying on their site;

    Brett Close · Shiloh, Ohio
    I can appreciate and understand that the NJ needs to make changes to keep up in this economy, however this economy is hurting your viewers as well, charging viewers 10$ a pop for something they used to get for free will be a mighty big step. Gradually working your way upto ten over the course of 5 or ten years might work. Good luck Newsjournal, I’ll miss you, but not too much I still have Facebook and the rest of the free web to entertain me.

    Dave Matthes · North Central State College
    Brett.. I feel the News Journal is worth at MOST 10 cents per day times 30 days/month…I would pay $3.00 a month..NOT $10

    Shannon Bodine · North Central State College
    Currently I have a weekly subscription so I get five passes, which one of those can be shared (I think). $10 a month is rather steep, anything above $5 is theft. I could see people selling passes on ebay or Craigs list.

    Shannon Bodine · North Central State College
    I mean one can be shared that does five more passes.

    David Kennard · Top commenter
    No that is thinking outside the box.

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