John Mayers Attorney speaks…Says he does not know about 911 tapes?

 Fired APA Supervisors Attorney – John Spon, don’t know about 911 tapes

John Mayer, who had been on paid administrative leave since Nov. 25, was removed from his position Wednesday.

“My client has faithfully served this county as a probation officer for 22 years,” attorney John Spon said on Mayer’s behalf. “He was wrongfully terminated.”  Really, after months of investigating you think the State got it wrong?

Mayer went through a pre-disciplinary hearing by videoconference March 3 before the Department of Rehabilitations and Corrections. State officials said he failed to follow a direct order from his supervisor to stay away from a probationer who had reportedly become involved with Mayer’s ex-wife.

Investigator Ronald Nelson presented the state’s case. He said Mayer, while intoxicated, initiated the arrest and started an argument with his ex-wife and the probationer’s mother.

“The issue in this matter does not concern the petty charges brought against my client,” Spon said. “The real issue is that John Mayer was terminated because he challenged the existing state policy regarding the degree of supervision of offenders in Richland County.

“The present policy of the department is to reduce the supervision of offenders for budgetary reasons. My client has courageously stood up to protect the citizens of Richland County by demanding that there be true supervision, supervision in the field and not from some office in some building.”

Mayer was off-duty the night of the arrest. He also was not the officer who supervised the probationer, whom Spon said is a sex offender.

“John determines that this individual is at his ex-wife’s house,” Spon said. “John is concerned about his ex-wife’s 8-year-old daughter.” Once again, not his daughter!

Spon said Mayer saw the probationer and his ex-wife in a vehicle. The attorney said the pair tried to flee, and Mayer followed while contacting the Richland County Sheriff’s Office. The Ohio Highway Patrol and Bellville police also responded.

Spon said Mayer was not involved in a high-speed chase and had consumed a “very minimal amount of alcohol.” Mayer told investigators he had four beers in an hour, three to four hours before the incident. “He was not intoxicated whatsoever,” Spon said. – Cannot be proven because of Professional Courtesy, but Officer Sweat did make him get a ride home. Read the transcripts!

After the probationer’s arrest, Nelson said county jail staff kept Mayer there until he could get a ride because they smelled alcohol on his breath. Nelson said any consumption of alcohol violates employee conduct. He also said Mayer wanted to pursue probation violations against the offender because of the man’s relationship with his ex-wife.

Nelson claimed Mayer would not answer a question and lied during the course of the investigation. Spon said Thursday he didn’t know what Nelson was alleging.

“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a public employee terminated on such petty allegations,” Spon said. “The real issue is what’s the motive. They (state officials) want their own people in here.”

Mayer has 10 days to appeal.

“I do not believe that they will be able to prove any one of these charges,” Spon said. “He is innocent of any egregious conduct. You’re probably right John Spon, thanks to how you people roll when it comes to the family, IF you know what I mean?.

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

Typical answer, I guess you also believe all people in prison are innocent. This guy a friend of yours or family member?

No, I do not believe people in prison are innocent. How ever I do believe in telling the truth, and the truth is…there is another side of this story NOT being shared here by Mr. Spon that may and will come up in litigatioin if there is any wrong doing. I don’t claim to know everything, I just tend to want the facts like any other voice of reason. I do know this guy, he made a mistake, he paid his dues, he follows the rules of man and goes to church. If what I hear is true, that is not shared here – heaven help ANYONE who had or now has a hand in it. Your head can hold only so many lies before soon it tells on itself, we are in the times the truth be known. May GOD Bless those who come before him and confess!

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Im still waiting for TGRILL to tell me his facts. He stated the probationer had seven violations, so what happened in court? He surely must of went to prison the way you claim how bad a person he is and his alledged violations. Give up the dirt (facts)? Like they say proof is in the pudding.

TGRILL has said enough, especially if he works for the city or state. IT who runs this site can easily pull his IP Address to see who he is, his facts can be used against him, he’s probably just a paid advocate of Mr. Spon and it’s blowing up in their face. More to come…

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Oh, as for the News Journal If this is a ploy by Mr Spon (a paid article) to throw propaganda on an already paid his dues criminal to vindicate his client, dont forget! GOD is watching you too! I hear the paper selling business is not doing so well, I would stay on top of this one, here’s your chance to gain back some credibility.

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Here’s a thought for those making snide remarks or want to ostracize folks who have done the crime, and paid their time, GOD is watching! , wanna talk fools? A fool says in his heart there is no GOD, here lies the problem in our society. I am not here to defend a sex offenders actions, but I DO know a little about this one, if you dont like using Watch Dog to know where these folks are, then you need to lobby for a change. Professionals evaluate each and everyone of these individuals and consider whether or not they are safe, in this case the guy made a mistake, paid his just time, and is labeled for life!, now we want to rehab or bring back into society and pass judgement, poke, pick, push, and not give that chance to move on from it – This John dude from what I hear is a criminal just from not letting the system be what it is and got to wrapped up in his own view of morality it cost him his job, from what I hear, he is lucky his actions to this day have not cost him his life.

simple-1 wrote:

News Journal: it seems that you need to do a little more digging and find out all the facts? People like me are wondering, guessing or assuming> what is the whole truth? maybe you will follow up on this story a little deeper? report fact and maybe

HotGee wrote:

Thats what he gets.His family and him have been doing bad things to people 4 years.God do not like ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL jokes on you now.

simple-1 wrote:

Im still waiting for TGRILL to tell me his facts. He stated the probationer had seven violations, so what happened in court? He surely must of went to prison the way you claim how bad a person he is and his alledged violations. Give up the dirt (facts)? Like they say proof is in the pudding.

In addition, people should lay off making judgements about the ex with out having the whole story or atleast hearing from her. Did she have problems in the past w/ Mr. Mayer? Has she ever filed anything for protection? Is this probationer the childs father? Just some of alot of unanswered questions.

orvil wrote:

again,,does any one know if the officer asked John to do a breath test ?

Did John refuse<<was his license taken on the spot if he did refuse,,if he took the breath test ,,what did it read out at,,was his car towed

gramgi wrote:

Typical answer, I guess you also believe all people in prison are innocent. This guy a friend of yours or family member?

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to kmamom:

Obviously there is more to it. He in no way should have been fired! This happened back in November and they want to do something now? What in the world is his ex-wife doing with a sex offender. Maybe he should also get a lawyer to take custody of her daughter. She is obviously not concerned for her daughter’s safety. As usual, everyone is suppose to feel bad for the criminal. That is one of society’s problems- criminals have more rights.

Have you ever heard of investigation?, that’s what took so long. One of the other problems in society is corruption in office – we don’t have that do we? Supervisors are not union employees, they get fired for not following orders, and he didn’t listen. Sounds like the State is trying to avoid harrassment charges?

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

Then why was the probationer arrested if there was no violation? I don’t think they can just arrest him because Mayer doesn’t like him.

Ever hear of false arrest?

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to working_man:

Unfortunately, Mr. Mayer had a lot of problems and a history of past indiscretions. He caused a former female PO to leave due to sexual harassment, and has been known to drink on the job. The fact that his brother was the county prosecutor, his father was a judge, and relatives in the sheriff’s office have allowed his actions and behavior to be ignored, and actually in a way encouraged. He was “enabled” for years and now that his benefactors are not there he is getting what he deserves.

I have heard that, and much, much more. These people defending this jerk who feel his actions were warranted just because the guy was a alleged sex offender, everyone knows when there are plea agreements to lesser charges the prosecution is just saving face. If someone don’t prove parole violations this person may have grounds of harrassment, then the taxpayers will care!

gramgi wrote:

Then why was the probationer arrested if there was no violation? I don’t think they can just arrest him because Mayer doesn’t like him.

4/3/2009 10:38:51 PM

working_man wrote:

Unfortunately, Mr. Mayer had a lot of problems and a history of past indiscretions. He caused a former female PO to leave due to sexual harassment, and has been known to drink on the job. The fact that his brother was the county prosecutor, his father was a judge, and relatives in the sheriff’s office have allowed his actions and behavior to be ignored, and actually in a way encouraged. He was “enabled” for years and now that his benefactors are not there he is getting what he deserves.

4/3/2009 10:18:11 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

He lost his job for not following a direct order from his supervisor not because he has committed a crime unlike the sex offender, who some of you arn’t at all concened about being in violation of parole, it shows the mentality of some the people posting who are ready to tar and feather a man just because he is a PO and don’t care that a convicted sex offender is still breaking the law. If the pervert committed another crime the same people would be saying the PO’s arn’t doing their job.

Funny how we hear so many people who DON’T know what they’re talking about talk about parole violations and nobody knows what they are? – I do know one thing, the truth is coming and the axe has just begun to swing. Get ready, there’s more than just propaganda! There’s violations and they’re not parole!

4/3/2009 10:03:12 PM

soccer14 wrote:

Does anyone see the big picture here?? It’s called addiction??

Seems to me all 3 involved need to get their priorities in order??

4/3/2009 9:59:53 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to kmamom:

Obviously there is more to it. He in no way should have been fired! This happened back in November and they want to do something now? What in the world is his ex-wife doing with a sex offender. Maybe he should also get a lawyer to take custody of her daughter. She is obviously not concerned for her daughter’s safety. As usual, everyone is suppose to feel bad for the criminal. That is one of society’s problems- criminals have more rights.

Yes, there is more to the story, one the child is not his. I don’t know him, just hear he has issues.

gramgi wrote:

He lost his job for not following a direct order from his supervisor not because he has committed a crime unlike the sex offender, who some of you arn’t at all concened about being in violation of parole, it shows the mentality of some the people posting who are ready to tar and feather a man just because he is a PO and don’t care that a convicted sex offender is still breaking the law. If the pervert committed another crime the same people would be saying the PO’s arn’t doing their job.

4/3/2009 9:38:07 PM

kmamom wrote:

Obviously there is more to it. He in no way should have been fired! This happened back in November and they want to do something now? What in the world is his ex-wife doing with a sex offender. Maybe he should also get a lawyer to take custody of her daughter. She is obviously not concerned for her daughter’s safety. As usual, everyone is suppose to feel bad for the criminal. That is one of society’s problems- criminals have more rights.

4/3/2009 9:34:28 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Hey Drugdog, keep talkin… Adding the State just made the problem worse, we know about deals behind closed doors$$$, maybe there should be a Federal Investigation?. Rotten to the Core2

This is exactly the kind of in your face arrogance people are getting tired of, there has been case after case taken on by the State with testimony taken from folks who are either high on drugs or intoxicated leaving someone who was innocent to defend themselves and either after found not guilty or the case better yet thrown out with no way to recoup money from defense (Can’t sue the State – ‘Untouchable, just like you say”, now that’s down right wrong! People should not fear the law, they should embrace it! – wake up!, and people wonder what’s happened to good old Mansfield? Were not fools, we are human! Your snide remarks are just wrong, people have opinions and draw conclusions for a reason!

4/3/2009 9:27:04 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Jefferson once said “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first” We ALL have rights!, and the only right John has at the moment is the “Right to remain silent” – Guilty until proven innocent in Richland County, that’s the rules here!

4/3/2009 8:57:07 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

I find this odd, don’t you? – It appears by this statement one would think the probationer was not in violation of parole for being with his ex-wife, I wonder what the violations were that tgrillo0521 depicts as facts, they were not running away?, Spon said no chase? “State officials said he failed to follow a direct order from his supervisor to stay away from a probationer who had reportedly become involved with Mayer’s ex-wife” sounds like this guy had a known issue with the fella, probably thought it doesn’t say much about him if his ex-wife was with convicted felon, that speaks volumes! and to hear people bash her?, sounds like some of you are trying to protect the inside! One back at the person with the snide remarks on people speaking out saying they were just haters of justice. Come on, that’s ALL any of us want.

Drugdog wrote:

Mansfield area is sure full of fools. The Cop, Judge or PO is always wrong. Now we have fools sticking up for a sex offender that plead guilty. Please note the guilty part.

Worked with John in the past. If you research he is one of a handfull of people that started Mansfield’s Most Wanted. They also started night operations of sweeping bars and doing home checks. Starting a parole and probation fugitive capture team. Why was this done? To make this county safer. Simple enough.

What is real funny is the comments about rotten to the Corps. John is a STATE employee. That book dealt with local Law Enforcement employees.

No worry about John getting back on the job though. DRC never wins an appeal at the State Employee Relations Board. He will be back and then he will be untouchable.

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to faithandhope7:

I have known John since jr. high, and yes I’ve been upset that he has recommended my husband to go 2 prison, but after all he is not there for a popularity contest. We have seen throughout the years officials in mansfield drink a little to much brewsky, and get into trouble but never were they terminated for it.. John was doing what he is suppose to PROTECT!!!!! after all he was not on state time and observed a situation that did not look right, And shame on the EX for allowing a sex offender into her home, car etc..regardless of what tier 1-2-3-4-5- or 20 it all boils down to the same thing CRIME!! . Mr. Nelson if you were in the same situation would you have done the same protocal, or not? maybe you should review this case a little closer because terminating was uncalled for!. John hang in there you did what your heart told you to do , you went with your gut instinct , John has always been known to go in bars etc. because that is were he finds violators.

4/3/2009 7:32:09 PM

tom1744 wrote:

Replying to onmymind:

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

Protect his kids h&ll, he was in a fit of jealousy.

orvil wrote:

ya know,,I could care less about the probation violator,,What I’m interested in,,was John asked to take a breath test after the officer smelled alcohol. If he was asked,,did he take it,,if he did take the breath test,,what did it read out at ..If he refused,,was his license taken on the spot,,,was his car towed..

My point being ..He should not be given special treatment

4/3/2009 6:40:00 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Thank you everyone, the facts you shared here today are enormous and will help this case tremendously! More heads will roll when this one’s done, when the IP’s are traced and the subpoena’s are mailed. You can bet we’ll get to the bottom of this one with all the backyard knowledge being shared.

Great Job Mr. Spon , Bravo, Well done!, it worked!

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

He (the sex offender) was allegedly charged with 2 counts of RAPE. He plead “Guilty” in a plea bargain to a lesser sex offense but his criminal acts were so serious, he allegedly served 2 yrs in prison. On the date of Mr. Mayer’s attempt to arrest the offender, the offender was in violation of at least 7 probation violations, which but for Mr Mayer’s dilligence in the field would not have been discovered by anyone.

zomby18 wrote:

I have known John for years. I have NEVER known him to step out of line. The way I see it is: He sees a parole violator. He follows them and calls in officers that were on duty. The violator knew he was in trouble why else would he try to elude John. That’s his job.

If he saw the parole violator with his x-wife, it’s a judgment call on whether he was harassing her by following them to prove a position of power was a bad move. It could have been handled in another way. He could have called in another PO and had them take over the situation. However, the parole violator could have evaded capture had John not followed them as he did.

John’s problem with his x-wife is another issue. If he was following HER, that’s a problem and is something for the Court, John and the x-wife to resolve

4/3/2009 5:25:11 PM

faithandhope7 wrote:

I have known John since jr. high, and yes I’ve been upset that he has recommended my husband to go 2 prison, but after all he is not there for a popularity contest. We have seen throughout the years officials in mansfield drink a little to much brewsky, and get into trouble but never were they terminated for it.. John was doing what he is suppose to PROTECT!!!!! after all he was not on state time and observed a situation that did not look right, And shame on the EX for allowing a sex offender into her home, car etc..regardless of what tier 1-2-3-4-5- or 20 it all boils down to the same thing CRIME!! . Mr. Nelson if you were in the same situation would you have done the same protocal, or not? maybe you should review this case a little closer because terminating was uncalled for!. John hang in there you did what your heart told you to do , you went with your gut instinct , John has always been known to go in bars etc. because that is were he finds violators.

4/3/2009 5:12:06 PM

tgrillo0521 wrote:

wow…simple-1…the name fits….

either you cannot read, or cannot comprehend, or cannot find Court View! Again, not my problem. My facts are true and correct. I will guarentee that.

the facts are the facts! The bottom line is, I have a job, and better things to do besides argue with you. Your opinion is just that…an opinion, and I doubt Mr. Mayer will lose any sleep over it, nor will I.

You seem to be emotionally involved, maybe arrested by him before????

When I care what you think of me i’ll be sure to call you. I didn’t clock out, I work 24/7, because I have children, a job, and a business. You should find something better to do besides judge people that you don’t even know.

4/3/2009 4:57:51 PM

gramgi wrote:

I guess I should have said are on or have been on probation and also include the family members that are always ragging on anyone in law enforcement will always side with the idiots who they feel have been unjustly persecuted over and over again. Simple solution is don’t break the law so you won’t have to deal with PO’s or anyone else in the court system.

simple-1 wrote:

reponse to plaster:

You shouldn’t lump all PO’s into one category just b/c of one persons actions unless you know otherwise. Im sure alot of PO’s obey the law and are good at what they do. That is a tough job, dealing/helping people w/ major issues try to turn their life around. Just as with rotten police ro Judges. You can’t label them all bad or crooked. Many. Im sure follow the law and policies of their departments.

simple-1 wrote:

tgrill must have clocked out from his county or city job. thats y no response. the offices close at 4

plastercastered wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

I get the feeling from alot of these posts there are alot on probation on here and are more worried about a probation officer that they don’t like (most people on probation don’t like their PO’s that do their job and make them follow the agreement they signed up for while on probation) than they are about a CONVICTED sex offender with probation violations out in the community putting their families at risk. I guess criminal minds think alike.

Besides I’m not even aware of whether or not he even had any probationers, he’s the supervisor & he’s supposed to supervise the rest of the po’s if that gives you any clue of how these “wonderful human beings” or po’s as we call them act on OR off duty!!!

4/3/2009 4:28:13 PM

plastercastered wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

I get the feeling from alot of these posts there are alot on probation on here and are more worried about a probation officer that they don’t like (most people on probation don’t like their PO’s that do their job and make them follow the agreement they signed up for while on probation) than they are about a CONVICTED sex offender with probation violations out in the community putting their families at risk. I guess criminal minds think alike.

I’m not on probation I just know john which is more than I can say for alot of you who are praising this vermin when his on & off duty actions are not much better than the scum he deals with!!!

simple-1 wrote:

Seems if TGrill works in the LE field, He/she is not very credible. exactly why I ask for faxcts b/c you got people putting in their opinions as fact and MR. TGRILL cant even tell the truth

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to drumnond:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

To Simple-1

4/3/2009 4:17:55 PM

simple-1 wrote:

LE tgrillo wheres my answers. you said u been in the law field for a number of years and now you say u know people. Get ur story straight!

in response to simple-1

gramgi wrote:

I get the feeling from alot of these posts there are alot on probation on here and are more worried about a probation officer that they don’t like (most people on probation don’t like their PO’s that do their job and make them follow the

agreement they signed up for while on probation) than they are about a CONVICTED sex offender with probation violations out in the community putting their families at risk. I guess criminal minds think alike.

drumnond wrote:

Tgrillo0521, What is his name I want to look him up, public record right, should be on the sheriffs office web page…..

plastercastered wrote:

It kills me these guys FORCE people to go to AA whether they even drink or not ( drug charges etc. ) & He seriously should attend some AA meetings. It’s no secret around this lovely town of the bars he regularly closes down, why did nobody breath test him in the morning at work when you could obviously tell he was hung over WHY???????? Back to that good ol boy crap. It’s as prevalant today as ever,just like everyone else they have just gotten more sophisticated is all. it’s just satisfying to know this scum & the rest of mansfields corrupt will eventually be judged by their maker. I wonder what the excuse will be then? Mr Spon WON’T BE THERE!!!

drumnond wrote:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

To Simple-1

simple-1 wrote:

reponding to TGRILL,thechasman:

No Im not a sex offender, have kids and draw conclusions from hard facts not a defense attorney’s spin. You said earlier u were Law enforcement, why the change? You know alot about the process and systems and I would gladly look it up if I had a name. With your positon in LE i thought you could provide me all the facts I requested? I know you said be for he did 2 years. Tell me his sentence on the probation violations? were they founded? is he in prison? What Judge? Because you keep saying uknow the fact, then let us hear it. Let me ask you this, was he checking on the numerous other sex offenders in Mansfield. Per auditors web site he lives nowhere near Bellville, so where did he start following them from? answers please

4/3/2009 3:45:13 PM

plastercastered wrote:

Did the citizens of this county know they were paying him around $35 an hour since Nov. to sit on his butt?

The reason there was no breath test mentioned is because the good ol boy network & Rotten to the Core shinanigans are Unfortunately still here!!!

4/3/2009 3:34:36 PM

thechasman wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

I don’t care what sex offense he did, he is a registered sex offender so that in itself means to stay away from children. I guess I don’t hold much stock in rehabilitation as far as sex offenders go, most will molest again, I’m not willing to take chances when it comes to children so I have no pity for the pervert.

I’m with you!

4/3/2009 3:31:13 PM

plastercastered wrote:

If you really know him ask him what he would pay a Shelby “stripper” named Kat for & what he made her do!!! :O

Numerous family in law ( prosecutor, lawyers etc. ) they’ll find IT some kind of job.

Also… Most all sex-offenders have stipulations in their probation papers about being around children, & many even have to report being in a relationship. If not its called aprobation violation. As a supervisor it is Johns Job to make sure these things are being done

tgrillo0521 wrote:

pull it up on public records. It is accessible to anyone. He was convicted. Do the homework. There are several web sites related to sex offenders in Ohio, since they do have to report for 25 years or so….He pled to a lesser charge, so that he got minimal time in prison. This is how the justice system works!

The state wants to cut extra supervision of all felons. Due to financial issues. Probation Officers are used to keep felons from violating probation guidelines, during all hours of the day and night, hence the title “Probation Officers”

He passed the probationer and his ex wife in a vehicle as stated in the paper, It is his job as a supervisor to report violations, no matter who the actual PO is on the case. Maybe thats why he called for back up??????

The bottom line is, he was doing his job. Regardless of the emotional connection, it was still his job. All of the answers lie in my previous statements, as well as in the paper, and on Court View.

gramgi wrote:

I don’t care what sex offense he did, he is a registered sex offender so that in itself means to stay away from children. I guess I don’t hold much stock in rehabilitation as far as sex offenders go, most will molest again, I’m not willing to take chances when it comes to children so I have no pity for the pervert.

4/3/2009 3:27:50 PM

thechasman wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Sorry I have onemore thaught for TGRIL:L

Are you a sex offender or something? You seem to have a real soft spot for them…Most reasonable people would see it as the guys a convicted sex-offender why take a chance, regardless how slim, & allow your child around them. Why would you roll the dice when it comes to the safety of your children?

simple-1 wrote:

Sorry I have onemore thaught for TGRIL:L

Since you know this case so well and this guy is sooooo bad. What happended to all the Violations you stated existed? So this guy was sent to prison? If not who is the Judge that didn’t ship this god aweful person to prison (based on ur facts)? so u got answers mr. tgrill to help me draw a conclusion. I want all the fact before drawing an opinion on a mother/ex-wife, probationer, supervisor. Do supervisors normally supervise people on probation? Did he tell the guys officer that the offender wasinviolation and if so then y was anything done? Waiting an a reponse TGRILL

tgrillo0521 wrote:

To Simple-1

First of all…you dont even know me, and i am just stating the facts! Just because his name was not in the paper doesn’t mean no one knows who he is.

I am not biased, and how dare you even begin to pretend that you know me. I know alot of people in the court systems, many attorneys, many PO’s, many Judges. I give people the benefit of the doubt when they infact deserve it, because it is not my place to judge. When your name changes to GOD…let me know.

When you are a convicted felon, and you have specific guidelines to follow or be sent back to prison…you are right, just turn em’ all loose and give them more rights than we have. Thats LOGICAL! Do you have a daughter they can hang out with????

Again, he worked for the state, he worked with sex-offenders. Maybe no one likes him, but he has done his job for 22 years!

keepinitreal34 wrote:

well the other half of his family is working for the city so maybe they will help him out.

simple-1 wrote:

It explains how you know so much TGRILL b/c the offenders name was never released (at least I didnt see it in the article). So your biased, as you are John’s friend and probably a drinking buddy of Mr. Spon and John. Your being extreme with the murders example. Im just saying people have been charged w/ rape when ones 19 and the victim is 15 (age Rape). Just saying that RAPE has many catagories and not assume they are all child or violent rapists.

4/3/2009 2:35:31 PM

EIB49 wrote:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

At the moment Officer Mayer attempted to possibly arrest this offender, Mr Mayer’s BAC was less than .00176

Well if it was less than that what was it exactly and what type of test was used to record that precise of a result?

plain_and_simple wrote:

This is the most stupid trumpted up bunch of trouble I have seen in awhile.

He was not acting as an officer of the court. He was acting as a citizens. Thus the reason for calling OTHER law enforcement agencies. Numberous ones at that.

I can imagine if something happened to that 8 year old being with a dumb mom and a convicted sex offender. He would be facing loosing his job for letting it happen.

How is having a few beers within the limits of the law gounds for firing? Especially when he relied on others to take care of it instead of himself.

Doesn’t anybody think about the fact that the sex offender was breaking the law being around the 8 year old? Or the fact that the mother was putting the child in danger?

Why, if they smelled so much alcohol on him, enought to detain him, did they not take a breathalizer test as he was driving.

Doesn’t make sense to me. Either the jailers screwed up, or this is blown out of proportion.

thechasman wrote:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

in response to simple-1

Amen!!! Very well put & I agree!!

Also… Most all sex-offenders have stipulations in their probation papers about being around children, & many even have to report being in a relationship. If not its called aprobation violation. As a supervisor it is Johns Job to make sure these things are being done

tgrillo0521 wrote:

pull it up on public records. It is accessible to anyone. He was convicted. Do the homework. There are several web sites related to sex offenders in Ohio, since they do have to report for 25 years or so….He pled to a lesser charge, so that he got minimal time in prison. This is how the justice system works!

The state wants to cut extra supervision of all felons. Due to financial issues. Probation Officers are used to keep felons from violating probation guidelines, during all hours of the day and night, hence the title “Probation Officers”

He passed the probationer and his ex wife in a vehicle as stated in the paper, It is his job as a supervisor to report violations, no matter who the actual PO is on the case. Maybe thats why he called for back up??????

The bottom line is, he was doing his job. Regardless of the emotional connection, it was still his job. All of the answers lie in my previous statements, as well as in the paper, and on Court View.

gramgi wrote:

I don’t care what sex offense he did, he is a registered sex offender so that in itself means to stay away from children. I guess I don’t hold much stock in rehabilitation as far as sex offenders go, most will molest again, I’m not willing to take chances when it comes to children so I have no pity for the pervert.

4/3/2009 3:27:50 PM

thechasman wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Sorry I have onemore thaught for TGRIL:L

Are you a sex offender or something? You seem to have a real soft spot for them…Most reasonable people would see it as the guys a convicted sex-offender why take a chance, regardless how slim, & allow your child around them. Why would you roll the dice when it comes to the safety of your children?

simple-1 wrote:

Sorry I have onemore thaught for TGRIL:L

Since you know this case so well and this guy is sooooo bad. What happended to all the Violations you stated existed? So this guy was sent to prison? If not who is the Judge that didn’t ship this god aweful person to prison (based on ur facts)? so u got answers mr. tgrill to help me draw a conclusion. I want all the fact before drawing an opinion on a mother/ex-wife, probationer, supervisor. Do supervisors normally supervise people on probation? Did he tell the guys officer that the offender wasinviolation and if so then y was anything done? Waiting an a reponse TGRILL

tgrillo0521 wrote:

To Simple-1

First of all…you dont even know me, and i am just stating the facts! Just because his name was not in the paper doesn’t mean no one knows who he is.

I am not biased, and how dare you even begin to pretend that you know me. I know alot of people in the court systems, many attorneys, many PO’s, many Judges. I give people the benefit of the doubt when they infact deserve it, because it is not my place to judge. When your name changes to GOD…let me know.

When you are a convicted felon, and you have specific guidelines to follow or be sent back to prison…you are right, just turn em’ all loose and give them more rights than we have. Thats LOGICAL! Do you have a daughter they can hang out with????

Again, he worked for the state, he worked with sex-offenders. Maybe no one likes him, but he has done his job for 22 years!

keepinitreal34 wrote:

well the other half of his family is working for the city so maybe they will help him out.

simple-1 wrote:

It explains how you know so much TGRILL b/c the offenders name was never released (at least I didnt see it in the article). So your biased, as you are John’s friend and probably a drinking buddy of Mr. Spon and John. Your being extreme with the murders example. Im just saying people have been charged w/ rape when ones 19 and the victim is 15 (age Rape). Just saying that RAPE has many catagories and not assume they are all child or violent rapists.

4/3/2009 2:35:31 PM

EIB49 wrote:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

At the moment Officer Mayer attempted to possibly arrest this offender, Mr Mayer’s BAC was less than .00176

Well if it was less than that what was it exactly and what type of test was used to record that precise of a result?

plain_and_simple wrote:

This is the most stupid trumpted up bunch of trouble I have seen in awhile.

He was not acting as an officer of the court. He was acting as a citizens. Thus the reason for calling OTHER law enforcement agencies. Numberous ones at that.

I can imagine if something happened to that 8 year old being with a dumb mom and a convicted sex offender. He would be facing loosing his job for letting it happen.

How is having a few beers within the limits of the law gounds for firing? Especially when he relied on others to take care of it instead of himself.

Doesn’t anybody think about the fact that the sex offender was breaking the law being around the 8 year old? Or the fact that the mother was putting the child in danger?

Why, if they smelled so much alcohol on him, enought to detain him, did they not take a breathalizer test as he was driving.

Doesn’t make sense to me. Either the jailers screwed up, or this is blown out of proportion.

thechasman wrote:

Replying to tgrillo0521:

in response to simple-1

Amen!!! Very well put & I agree!!

tgrillo0521 wrote:

in response to simple-1

yes. I know the relationship between the ex and the probationer…for fact.

your right, people do make mistakes, and people can change. I have been in the law field for a number of years and 2 counts of RAPE …constitutes more than just a mistake! would you bring a murderer around your children if they only killed 2 people as opposed to 5??? come on!

The word sex offender doesn’t scare me near as much as the ignorant people in this town. Mr.Spon will make sure justice is served. I am sure of that.

The facts are there. The firing was unwarranted. He may have had a lapse in judgment because he was emotionally involved, but that does not make him wrong! only human!

scotchie wrote:

Replying to great2bpoor:

Should have had a dui test, just another in government who is above the law C YA !

Keep up the good comments!

mansfieldsucks wrote:

just because someone doesnt spell very well doesnt mean they are not entitled to state their opinions about this story. focus .

simple-1 wrote:

one more response to TGRILL before I go,

You are hearing one side. Mr.Spon has done his job in that he put it out the word sex offender. And when we hear the word sex offender is said it strikes fear. People make real bad mistakes but it doesn’t mean they wont change for the better, Do you even know if the child was present for the arrest? Do you even know the relationship between the ex and the probationer? The whole story needs to be told before I can cast judgement! Not just listening to a defense attorney tell his side and metion the word sex offender and get people thinking on-sided.

thechasman wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Gambler99, read between the lines, something is not right – he was suspended in Nov., there’s more to this story than what is being told here. They just fired him now it appears after months of investigating – something just don’t jive! Get a grip people, sex offenders are human too! 2 wrongs don’t make it right. We don’t know what the offenders offense was and here we are generalizing that ALL offenders are MONSTERS and should not be allowed back into society, if that’s the case we should lobby for the death penalty, problem solved!

Good Idea! Why should the rest of society be put at risk because of these sicko’s… I’ve worked around a few & the reoccering theme is THEY are the victoms of society.. not the other way around. To hell with those pieces of crap & the people who support them to!!!

tgrillo0521 wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

are you serious…lol…try PUBLIC RECORDS!…he plead to a lesser charge….wow…how much do you know about the law????

Soooo SERIOUS! If they were that serious he would have done alot more time than that. TGRILL who you foolin!

thechasman wrote:

To all the people ranting & raving about him abusing his power. I say He should be commended! He put protecting his ex-wifes little girl before his job. What the hells wrong with that? We need more guys like him. Doing whats right sometimes comes before the letter of the law. His ex should not have been involved with a sex-offender while she has children. How many of you out there wouldent do whatever you had to, to make sure a child that you cared about was safe? The fact is a sex-offender has no right around a child ( or even being in a relationship enless approved by the officer)when his probation states that. So the question is why where his supervisors not doing something about it? Why did it even reach the piont that it did? And he was off duty. No laws against him having a beer or 2 while off duty. And as a law abiding citizen ( besides being an officer of the court) he has responabilty to report these things, just like anyone else. Children services should be invoved also.

simple-1 wrote:

Soooo SERIOUS! If they were that serious he would have done alot more time than that. TGRILL who you foolin!

tgrillo0521 wrote:

and in response to “the mothers side of the story” REALLY????

I have a daughter, and no matter how much I liked someone, I would never put her in that situation, let alone myself. Give me a break…either you do not have children, or you simply do not care.

the sex offender) was allegedly charged with 2 counts of RAPE. He plead “Guilty” in a plea bargain to a lesser sex offense but his criminal acts were so serious, he allegedly served 2 yrs in prison. On the date of Mr. Mayer’s attempt to arrest the offender, the offender was in violation of at least 7 probation violations, which but for Mr Mayer’s dilligence in the field would not have been discovered by anyone.

At the moment Officer Mayer attempted to possibly arrest this offender, Mr Mayer’s BAC was less than .00176 which is less than 1/4 of the .08 legal limit. Mr Mayer was not only not intoxicated, he was lawfully operating a motor vehicle.

The Children’s Services Board should investigate as to why the mother of an 8 year old child is fraternizing with a known convicted serious Sex Offender.

These are facts and not speculations.

CmptrNana wrote:

About time he was dismissed from his job … should havve been done YEARS ago

sheshi16 wrote:

It’s about time………..there are 22 years of stories that have been shoved under the rug becasue of who he is. This is typical behavior from this individual and it is amazing to me that it took this many years to catch up with him. Anyone that knows this officer, knows that he is usually drinking, whether on duty or not and I know that this is not the first time he has been brought up on “drinking while on the job”……….he’s just been allowed to get away with it.

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to thechasman:

Good for him!!! I wonder what the hell his ex-wife is doing allowing her child to be around a convicted sex-offender? Thankfully he cared enough about that little girl to do something about it…Job be damned! We need more guys like him. I wonder also if the richland county children services are looking into the well being of this little girl? If her mothers that stupid someone needs to.

Where was the child?, the paper depicts he determined the child was with his ex-wife all the while he was drinking the day in question. It appears to me that alcohol and the legal system in Mansfield go hand in hand. After all I had to fight this very system when an alcoholic girlfriend claimed false allegations to domestic violence when she wasn’t getting her way with me. Everyone’s guilty in Richland county, it just takes time to prove your innocents and lots of doe! Just another case, move on!

orvil wrote:

he was not the officer who supervised the probationer

he had a very minimul amount of alcohol,,,,four beers in an hour

john determines that the probationer is at his ex-wife’s house,,,,ding,,,ding,,,ding

for what ever reason some people of authority seem to think they can do whatever they feel like doing.

John got caught,,he don’t need to be treated any better than anyone else…did he refuse the breath test

4/3/2009 12:07:34 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Gambler99, read between the lines, something is not right – he was suspended in Nov., there’s more to this story than what is being told here. They just fired him now it appears after months of investigating – something just don’t jive! Get a grip people, sex offenders are human too! 2 wrongs don’t make it right. We don’t know what the offenders offense was and here we are generalizing that ALL offenders are MONSTERS and should not be allowed back into society, if that’s the case we should lobby for the death penalty, problem solved!

simple-1 wrote:

Instead of drawing opinions of the mother from one persons side of the story? Shouldn’t the News Journal get her statement? We should not pass judgement until we hear her side. Mayb there is more to the story than whats being reported. Sometimes I feel not all is put out there, to protect both sides

drumnond wrote:

This message is for the “TheSinner” (great name by the way) You should be concerned about what happened in Cincinnati or neighboring communities with dangerous people. The 13 year old wasn’t just murdered, she was raped and burned, sex offenders as dangerous. It all reflects on how poorly these parolees are being supervised by officers in our community. Drive by the VOA.they hang out all over the place. Mr. Mayer was enforcing the laws and rules by which these maggots have to follow when living in our community. Probably needed to date his ex awhile longer before they got married. Isn’t officers suppose to be on duty 24 hours a day and be able to respond when needed at night or on the weekends? . try getting ahold of a parole office after hours here in Mansfield, none to be found. We don’t have all the facts in Mr. Mayers case. I’m sure there is alot more to the story besides what we read in the paper. As far as I am concerned he did his job, but went against the grain.

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Appeal what, abuse of power and stalking? – something smells fishy! We should have been asking…why was he following his ex-wife, while intoxicated, while off duty? Stay tuned, typical attorney jargon “he was not intoxicated”, he smelled like alcohol, did anyone think he should have been tested?, you or I sure would have been tested. I can’t wait to hear the rest of this one, in it’s entirety or will this like so many others have a behind closed doors deal? , don’t tell me “rotten to the core” still exists in Richland County – Oh, no? The saga continues!

smallcadi wrote:

Replying to catchya1lv:

i THINK THIS GUY WAD DRIVING OVI AND HE DOES NEED TO BE FIRED. I KNOW SO MANY PROBATION OFFICERS, AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICER MISUSE THERE ATTHORITY, EXCEPTING BRIBES, ALOT DO. AND THEY NEED TO TAPE ALL INCIDENTS. AS FOR CALLING BACKUP ON THIS CHASE, OFF DUTY CALLING BACKUP, WAISTING TAX PAYERS DOLLARS. COME ON PROCECUTERS READ THIS IT WILL SURELY HELP YOUR CASE AGAINST A CROOK IN CIVIL SERVICE, HE TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND VIOLATED THAT FIRST AMENDMENT. YES I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT THE LAW THESE FOLKS GET AWAY WITH WAY TO MUCH CRAP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW. SO LAW DIRECTOR DO YOUR JOB SO THE CITICIANS OF MANSFIELD DON’T GO AFTER YOUR JOB, OK.

Do you realize that using all caps means you are SCREAMING??!! I feel like a schoolkid being lectured reading your post. Please inform us how you know so much about the law, and if you know SO much, why not go to the proper authorities instead of touting your spelling skills on here.

zoozane wrote:

Appeal………………..John appeal!

ParabolicNoun wrote:

Sounds like he was unhappy about the company his ex wife was keeping and he made it his business using ( and abusing ) his authority. Not sure if this rises to him losing his job but it was certainly a bonehead move. I’m sure he thought he was untouchable.

TheSinner wrote:

I have a hidden switch. As soon as I turn off the computer, I get another thought.

So, did the probie get rearrested? What was the story with that?

And did child services get involved with the mother’s bad choices, bringing a sex offender into her home?

I’m not interested in what happens in Cincinnati. There’s a bunch of stories here.

Wouldn’t it be great if the NJ had an investigative reporter to follow up on the interesting stories that live in Mansfield. And there are many.

I hear Heraldo Rivera isn’t working.

thechasman wrote:

Also wanna say he is being represented by one of Mansfields best lawyers… If theres been any misjustice here I can assure you John Spon will get to the bottom of it & do everything in his power to assure his client is treated fair.

thechasman wrote:

Good for him!!! I wonder what the hell his ex-wife is doing allowing her child to be around a convicted sex-offender? Thankfully he cared enough about that little girl to do something about it…Job be damned! We need more guys like

him. I wonder also if the richland county children services are looking into the well being of this little girl? If her mothers that stupid someone needs to.

TheSinner wrote:

“The present policy of the department is to reduce the supervision of offenders for budgetary reasons.”

Well, Meyer was off duty, so that won’t work.

The fact that he did not follow a direct order from his supervisor, is not cause for termination unless it endangered someone, and it did not.

It is possible that Meyer was attempting to harass his ex, and it is possible he was protecting a child. I will for for the latter.

Meyer made a mistake by drinking first. Then the 2nd mistake was not getting his alcohol level measured at the jail. He might have gotten a clean blow. Maybe.

End result, is I would have had child services get involved if the mother had been involved with a sex offender. And I believe a sex offender can’t have any contact with a child, so, I would have applied to the court to have his probation rescinded and got him that way.

Meyer made many bad choices in this deal, but he should challenge the firing.

tgrillo0521 wrote:

wow…a few convicted felons out there….dont be haters…he did his job, and did it well I might add…

the point of this all is not whether or not he was too emotionally involved or not, obviously as a human he was…It is irrevelant whether or not that child was his biological child, he obviously was concerned about her well being, and the well being of his ex-wife.

The bottom line is, the reasons that he was fired are unwarranted. The “state” does not want the prisons overpopulated, so they inturn want “less” supervision for “sex-offenders”, which for them means less PV’s….and less prison sentences! Let them hang out with their daughters…wonder if their opinions would be different?

The whole “incident” involving the probationer was just an excuse to fire him, because they dont like his opinion!…We should be commending him for his service and what he has done for our community. 22 years is almost a life time of service, he obviously has done something right!

gambler99 wrote:

This all boils down to 1. directive order was given to him (mayer) 2.State worries more about sex offenders rights than the community, 3. Children Services should have been informed of mother careless behavior. Sometimes when we do that extra mile, it hangs the do gooder, but when you dont follow orders your going to put others in danger. Stress on a sex offeder makes them react an it seems as the welfare of this child was not the issue. Its always the after thought of i think i should had done this differently that comes back to bite us in the butt ! Sorry John, but i think you should had been given a written violation order rather than insant dimissal, but you how the stae works as well as i.

JWetzel40080723075632 wrote:

Replying to catchya1lv:

Replying to onmymind:

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

THIS HOW MOST OF THE PROBATION OFFICERS DO. THEY MISUSE THEIR ATHORITY ALL OF THE TIMES, I FEEL ALL SHOULD BESCHOOLED ON HOW MANY TIMES A DAY A PROBATION OFFICER IS ALLOWED TO COME BY YOUR HOME. i HAD ONE COME BY MY HOME AT 2: A. M. COME ON NOW WHAT DOES HE WANT SOME SEX?

well if your sex is as good as your spelling, i would think a tissue and lotion would be much better.

JWetzel40080723075632 wrote:

Replying to catchya1lv:

i THINK THIS GUY WAD DRIVING OVI AND HE DOES NEED TO BE FIRED. I KNOW SO MANY PROBATION OFFICERS, AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICER MISUSE THERE ATTHORITY, EXCEPTING BRIBES, ALOT DO. AND THEY NEED TO TAPE ALL INCIDENTS. AS FOR CALLING BACKUP ON THIS CHASE, OFF DUTY CALLING BACKUP, WAISTING TAX PAYERS DOLLARS. COME ON PROCECUTERS READ THIS IT WILL SURELY HELP YOUR CASE AGAINST A CROOK IN CIVIL SERVICE, HE TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND VIOLATED THAT FIRST AMENDMENT. YES I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT THE LAW THESE FOLKS

GET AWAY WITH WAY TO MUCH CRAP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW. SO LAW DIRECTOR DO YOUR JOB SO THE CITICIANS OF MANSFIELD DON’T GO AFTER YOUR JOB, OK.

Do you know so much about the law because you have been on the wrong side of it for so long? He was not charged with a criminal violation, just a violation of state policy and procedure, and yet that makes him a criminal? By the way, please proofread your posts before hitting submit.

4/3/2009 9:24:43 AM

simple-1 wrote:

response to onmymind and catchya:

In reading this article the first question is how did Mr.Mayer know this guy was at his ex wifes house? HMMMM. Why was he out drinking and driving putting countlessothers at risk? Mr /> Spon never elaborated on the persons offense and the details as there are many kinds of sex offenders. Why didn’t he call the childs father since this is not his child? Sounds to me a little shady and though we all wanna protect our children this probably wasn’t the safest way! it seems by reading this article that he is using his exs- daughter as an excuse to do what he did.

By the way catchya his brother is the prosecutor

orvil wrote:

he was not the officer who supervised the probationer

he had a very minimul amount of alcohol,,,,four beers in an hour

john determines that the probationer is at his ex-wife’s house,,,,ding,,,ding,,,ding

for what ever reason some people of authority seem to think they can do whatever they feel like doing.

John got caught,,he don’t need to be treated any better than anyone else…did he refuse the breath test

4/3/2009 12:07:34 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Gambler99, read between the lines, something is not right – he was suspended in Nov., there’s more to this story than what is being told here. They just fired him now it appears after months of investigating – something just don’t jive! Get a grip people, sex offenders are human too! 2 wrongs don’t make it right. We don’t know what the offenders offense was and here we are generalizing that ALL offenders are MONSTERS and should not be allowed back into society, if that’s the case we should lobby for the death penalty, problem solved!

simple-1 wrote:

Instead of drawing opinions of the mother from one persons side of the story? Shouldn’t the News Journal get her statement? We should not pass judgement until we hear her side. Mayb there is more to the story than whats being reported. Sometimes I feel not all is put out there, to protect both sides

drumnond wrote:

This message is for the “TheSinner” (great name by the way) You should be concerned about what happened in Cincinnati or neighboring communities with dangerous people. The 13 year old wasn’t just murdered, she was raped and burned, sex offenders as dangerous. It all reflects on how poorly these parolees are being supervised by officers in our community. Drive by the VOA.they hang out all over the place. Mr. Mayer was enforcing the laws and rules by which these maggots have to follow when living in our community. Probably needed to date his ex awhile longer before they got married. Isn’t officers suppose to be on duty 24 hours a day and be able to respond when needed at night or on the weekends? . try getting ahold of a parole office after hours here in Mansfield, none to be found. We don’t have all the facts in Mr. Mayers case. I’m sure there is alot more to the story besides what we read in the paper. As far as I am concerned he did his job, but went against the grain.

Devils_Advocate 1st POST wrote:

Appeal what, abuse of power and stalking? – something smells fishy! We should have been asking…why was he following his ex-wife, while intoxicated, while off duty? Stay tuned, typical attorney jargon “he was not intoxicated”, he smelled like alcohol, did anyone think he should have been tested?, you or I sure would have been tested. I can’t wait to hear the rest of this one, in it’s entirety or will this like so many others have a behind closed doors deal? , don’t tell me “rotten to the core” still exists in Richland County – Oh, no? The saga continues!

smallcadi wrote:

Replying to catchya1lv:

i THINK THIS GUY WAD DRIVING OVI AND HE DOES NEED TO BE FIRED. I KNOW SO MANY PROBATION OFFICERS, AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICER MISUSE THERE ATTHORITY, EXCEPTING BRIBES, ALOT DO. AND THEY NEED TO TAPE ALL INCIDENTS. AS FOR CALLING BACKUP ON THIS CHASE, OFF DUTY CALLING BACKUP, WAISTING TAX PAYERS DOLLARS. COME ON PROCECUTERS READ THIS IT WILL SURELY HELP YOUR CASE AGAINST A CROOK IN CIVIL SERVICE, HE TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND VIOLATED THAT FIRST AMENDMENT. YES I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT THE LAW THESE FOLKS GET AWAY WITH WAY TO MUCH CRAP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW. SO LAW DIRECTOR DO YOUR JOB SO THE CITICIANS OF MANSFIELD DON’T GO AFTER YOUR JOB, OK.

Do you realize that using all caps means you are SCREAMING??!! I feel like a schoolkid being lectured reading your post. Please inform us how you know so much about the law, and if you know SO much, why not go to the proper authorities instead of touting your spelling skills on here.

zoozane wrote:

Appeal………………..John appeal!

ParabolicNoun wrote:

Sounds like he was unhappy about the company his ex wife was keeping and he made it his business using ( and abusing ) his authority. Not sure if this rises to him losing his job but it was certainly a bonehead move. I’m sure he thought he was untouchable.

TheSinner wrote:

I have a hidden switch. As soon as I turn off the computer, I get another thought.

So, did the probie get rearrested? What was the story with that?

And did child services get involved with the mother’s bad choices, bringing a sex offender into her home?

I’m not interested in what happens in Cincinnati. There’s a bunch of stories here.

Wouldn’t it be great if the NJ had an investigative reporter to follow up on the interesting stories that live in Mansfield. And there are many.

I hear Heraldo Rivera isn’t working.

thechasman wrote:

Also wanna say he is being represented by one of Mansfields best lawyers… If theres been any misjustice here I can assure you John Spon will get to the bottom of it & do everything in his power to assure his client is treated fair.

thechasman wrote:

Good for him!!! I wonder what the hell his ex-wife is doing allowing her child to be around a convicted sex-offender? Thankfully he cared enough about that little girl to do something about it…Job be damned! We need more guys like him. I wonder also if the richland county children services are looking into the well being of this little girl? If her mothers that stupid someone needs to.

TheSinner wrote:

“The present policy of the department is to reduce the supervision of offenders for budgetary reasons.”

Well, Meyer was off duty, so that won’t work.

The fact that he did not follow a direct order from his supervisor, is not cause for termination unless it endangered someone, and it did not.

It is possible that Meyer was attempting to harass his ex, and it is possible he was protecting a child. I will for for the latter.

Meyer made a mistake by drinking first. Then the 2nd mistake was not getting his alcohol level measured at the jail. He might have gotten a clean blow. Maybe.

End result, is I would have had child services get involved if the mother had been involved with a sex offender. And I believe a sex offender can’t have any contact with a child, so, I would have applied to the court to have his probation rescinded and got him that way.

Meyer made many bad choices in this deal, but he should challenge the firing.

tgrillo0521 wrote:

wow…a few convicted felons out there….dont be haters…he did his job, and did it well I might add…

the point of this all is not whether or not he was too emotionally involved or not, obviously as a human he was…It is irrevelant whether or not that child was his biological child, he obviously was concerned about her well being, and the well being of his ex-wife.

The bottom line is, the reasons that he was fired are unwarranted. The “state” does not want the prisons overpopulated, so they inturn want “less” supervision for “sex-offenders”, which for them means less PV’s….and less prison sentences! Let them hang out with their daughters…wonder if their opinions would be different?

The whole “incident” involving the probationer was just an excuse to fire him, because they dont like his opinion!…We should be commending him for his service and what he has done for our community. 22 years is almost a life time of service, he obviously has done something right!

gambler99 wrote:

This all boils down to 1. directive order was given to him (mayer) 2.State worries more about sex offenders rights than the community, 3. Children Services should have been informed of mother careless behavior. Sometimes when we

do that extra mile, it hangs the do gooder, but when you dont follow orders your going to put others in danger. Stress on a sex offeder makes them react an it seems as the welfare of this child was not the issue. Its always the after thought of i think i should had done this differently that comes back to bite us in the butt ! Sorry John, but i think you should had been given a written violation order rather than insant dimissal, but you how the stae works as well as i.

JWetzel40080723075632 wrote:

Replying to catchya1lv:

Replying to onmymind:

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

THIS HOW MOST OF THE PROBATION OFFICERS DO. THEY MISUSE THEIR ATHORITY ALL OF THE TIMES, I FEEL ALL SHOULD BESCHOOLED ON HOW MANY TIMES A DAY A PROBATION OFFICER IS ALLOWED TO COME BY YOUR HOME. i HAD ONE COME BY MY HOME AT 2: A. M. COME ON NOW WHAT DOES HE WANT SOME SEX?

well if your sex is as good as your spelling, i would think a tissue and lotion would be much better.

JWetzel40080723075632 wrote:

Replying to catchya1lv:

i THINK THIS GUY WAD DRIVING OVI AND HE DOES NEED TO BE FIRED. I KNOW SO MANY PROBATION OFFICERS, AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICER MISUSE THERE ATTHORITY, EXCEPTING BRIBES, ALOT DO. AND THEY NEED TO TAPE ALL INCIDENTS. AS FOR CALLING BACKUP ON THIS CHASE, OFF DUTY CALLING BACKUP, WAISTING TAX PAYERS DOLLARS. COME ON PROCECUTERS READ THIS IT WILL SURELY HELP YOUR CASE AGAINST A CROOK IN CIVIL SERVICE, HE TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND VIOLATED THAT FIRST AMENDMENT. YES I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT THE LAW THESE FOLKS GET AWAY WITH WAY TO MUCH CRAP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW. SO LAW DIRECTOR DO YOUR JOB SO THE CITICIANS OF MANSFIELD DON’T GO AFTER YOUR JOB, OK.

Do you know so much about the law because you have been on the wrong side of it for so long? He was not charged with a criminal violation, just a violation of state policy and procedure, and yet that makes him a criminal? By the way, please proofread your posts before hitting submit.

4/3/2009 9:24:43 AM

simple-1 wrote:

response to onmymind and catchya:

In reading this article the first question is how did Mr.Mayer know this guy was at his ex wifes house? HMMMM. Why was he out drinking and driving putting countlessothers at risk? Mr /> Spon never elaborated on the persons offense and the details as there are many kinds of sex offenders. Why didn’t he call the childs father since this is not his child? Sounds to me a little shady and though we all wanna protect our children this probably wasn’t the safest way! it seems by reading this article that he is using his exs- daughter as an excuse to do what he did.

By the way catchya his brother is the prosecutor

yippyyappymom wrote:

Replying to onmymind:

EXACTLY onmymind. right or wrong he was doing this for ALL the right reasons I think his punishment was way too strict to lose his job??. I am sure other probation officers do way more wrong than this they just haven’t got caught yet….

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

4/3/2009 9:09:15 AM

drumnond wrote:

Right or wrong of state policies, who knows! I sure this isn’t over yet, I smell law suits coming. True comment about parole officers not closely supervising people out of prison. Read a very distrubing article in Cincinnati yesterday. How a sex offender was kick outy of the Volunteers of America (on Parole was he), a week later killed a 13 year old girl. People at the VOA stated it’s an unwritten policy not to call parole officers after hours or on weekends. If I remember correctly Mansfields has the other VOA sex offender center, only one of two in the state. About a year ago Chief Messer from Mansfield police wanted to shut the place down because of issues that the general public don’t hear about. Is Mansfield safe? Can this happen here? go to nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20090401/edito1/904010322/-1/TODAY

to read about the killing and how parole officers work……

catchya1lv wrote:

i THINK THIS GUY WAD DRIVING OVI AND HE DOES NEED TO BE FIRED. I KNOW SO MANY PROBATION OFFICERS, AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICER MISUSE THERE ATTHORITY, EXCEPTING BRIBES, ALOT DO. AND THEY NEED TO TAPE ALL INCIDENTS. AS FOR CALLING BACKUP ON THIS CHASE, OFF DUTY CALLING BACKUP, WAISTING TAX PAYERS DOLLARS. COME ON PROCECUTERS READ THIS IT WILL SURELY HELP YOUR CASE AGAINST A CROOK IN CIVIL SERVICE, HE TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND VIOLATED THAT FIRST AMENDMENT. YES I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT THE LAW THESE FOLKS GET AWAY WITH WAY TO MUCH CRAP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW. SO LAW DIRECTOR DO YOUR JOB SO THE CITICIANS OF MANSFIELD DON’T GO AFTER YOUR JOB, OK.

EIB49 wrote:

Replying to onmymind:

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

Understood but you call someone else to handle it and stay out of it.

catchya1lv wrote:

Replying to onmymind:

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

THIS HOW MOST OF THE PROBATION OFFICERS DO. THEY MISUSE THEIR ATHORITY ALL OF THE TIMES, I FEEL ALL SHOULD BESCHOOLED ON HOW MANY TIMES A DAY A PROBATION OFFICER IS ALLOWED TO COME BY YOUR HOME. i HAD ONE COME BY MY HOME AT 2: A. M. COME ON NOW WHAT DOES HE WANT SOME SEX?

4/3/2009 8:43:40 AM

onmymind wrote:

Replying to EIB49:

hmmm.

I know he shouldn’t have done this, but I can undertand wy he did. I know I would do most anything to protect my kids.

4/3/2009 8:25:45 AM

EIB49 wrote:

hmmm.

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

4/3/2009 8:08:22 AM

great2bpoor wrote:

Should have had a dui test, just another in government who is above the law C YA !

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Ok BitterHappines I don’t mean to be snide with you in my my remarks as coming off as a smart***, but there is still general misconception even in your last post about there being a parole violation which gets my goat that you too are hung up on alleged, and not facts, until a violation is proven, people on the defense of this state official’s justification need to back off on that one, stay tuned like I say, the truth is coming. The curfew violation that the Columbus dispatch noted is incorrect and they are being called upon about it as I type. If we don’t get to hear the ending in this forum due to getting dragged out in court, and the rest is just swept under the rug as in the past, the speculation will continue. I hope if this does disappear here that the NJ will update us on the outcome, will they?

4/5/2009 12:37:08 PM

simple-1 wrote:

I was not the 1st to throw a stone, and I am not without sin. I use harmless words “personal opinion”, and 1/2 the story (other side) I do know to combat lies to get to the truth! For me to shut up and leave as you say “a sleeping dog lye”, can we ever get peace?. We can’t allow this to keep on going, you see people believe this has been going on way before (he) got involved, the State must get anyone and everyone else who is not honest and without integrity back on track. We now have what I think is a great inspiration for change as President in “Obama” , his motto “change, YES WE CAN” and persistance is key – I know the State is now investigating our local legal system, and I want to feel like so many others that change is coming. Believe it or not, there’s alot of blood still in there, mistakes have family history too!. People are speaking out in protest, we need to listen!

Well put! I’m glad I’m not the only one interested in the true facts!

4/5/2009 12:19:08 PM

supawoman1977081127051730 wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Replying to simple-1:

what was the guy on probation for? he raped the girl? and where is he now

He was on parole for something else…and according to what my child told me and the investigators yes he raped her…i believe her!!!! but they dont!!!! as of right now he has still not be charged with raping my child. Im hopin that some new information comes about and that another victim comes forward with the truth

4/5/2009 12:17:17 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

One more thing BitterHappiness – I like your reference “that he who is without sin cast the first stone”, I was not the 1st to throw a stone, and I am not without sin. I use harmless words “personal opinion”, and 1/2 the story (other side) I do know to combat lies to get to the truth! For me to shut up and leave as you say “a sleeping dog lye”, can we ever get peace?. We can’t allow this to keep on going, you see people believe this has been going on way before (he) got involved, the State must get anyone and everyone else who is not honest and without integrity back on track. We now have what I think is a great inspiration for change as President in “Obama” , his motto “change, YES WE CAN” and persistance is key – I know the State is now investigating our local legal system, and I want to feel like so many others that change is coming. Believe it or not, there’s alot of blood still in there, mistakes have family history too!. People are speaking out in protest, we need to listen!

4/5/2009 11:50:59 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

BitterHappines, if your a friend of Johns or condone this type of behavior from one of our so called leaders, shame on you. Like my name depicts, I am merely being a devils advocate and my picture is a reminder of who is the king of kings, I do not claim to be him. I am not here on a smear campaign or to degrade anybody, I am simply looking for the truth and driving dialogue to find it. We can learn alot more about how to fix the peoples fear “are we really safe” through dialogue that reaches understanding. I feel I have done my job since those who were so quick to defend him by using NJ and most likely a few fugitive informants in here are now done ranting his higher than thou attitude. Remember NJ started this by using a long time friend of mine as vindication to justify what he did as right, yes, he messed up, he got fired, and yes we wanna make sure he DONT COME BACK for it. If you dont like it, have NJ remove the forum, or simply turn the channel.

4/5/2009 10:28:16 AM

BitterHappiness wrote:

Devils_Advocate

i’m not challenging either way if the probationer involved in the incident, that, has led to John’s termination in his job, is a good or bad person. i don’t even pretend to know. i do know that whatever has happened he now has to deal

with. He was violating his probation on the night in question. Regardless of how he was caught, he was still in the wrong. You said you agreed with what i posted previously however, you feel the need degrade John Mayer on his actions. Jealous Rage? Once more, noone knows the details & interjecting negative opinions is rather destructive. John lost his job. Why continue to tear him down? Was he not punished for his actions as well?

You also referenced Romans to faithandhope7 “bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse”.

The Bible also teaches that he who is without sin cast the first stone

With all do respect, take the advice you spoke of and let John, the probationer you know, and everyone else involved some peace.

4/5/2009 9:09:49 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Supawoman, 1st and for most I would like to say It is a shame you actually were in harms way and he did not heed the warning or protect you and your family. If what you wrote is true, I am sure the State would like to speak with you if you are willing. I have a personal opinion in my experience and others a like the way some handle crime is not in our best interest. In my opinion, there has to be a way to reduce crime in Mansfield/Richland County through better education. You can’t fight crime with crime which appears to be a certain groups theme. Don’t get me wrong, we have some bright and wonderful folks out there that do serve and protect, and I agree we still have the rotten core bunch who have a quota to meet, crime does pay. If we could pay for protection with tax money alone and did not need fines or backroom deals to pay the bills there probably wouldn’t be corruption. After seeing what Mr. Mayer gets paid, maybe there are some paycuts in order to help their budget?

4/5/2009 9:05:55 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

faithandhope7 – I don’t use GOD’s name in vain, here’e a little Sunday a.m. sermon for you!

Romans 12

Living Sacrifices

Love

14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.[c] Do not be conceited.

17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay.

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;

if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.

In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e] 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Can I buy you lunch? May GOD give you his grace.

4/5/2009 8:30:40 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

This is for BitterHappiness, what you say is true! Now let’s put that same spin on the probationer, ONLY the parties involved know what happened in his case too! That is why his so called rape charges were plea agreements to sexual battery, not enough evidence! He said/she said, and everyone knows what happens when there’s not enough evidence when these deals get done outside of court, they use scare tactics and bring on other charges. The probationer everyone is talking about is not a bad guy, he put himself in a bad situation at a graduation party and the rest is history. The probationer was only a few weeks of getting off parole when Mr. Mayer in a jealous rage and desperate to get his ex-wife back made the mistake of his life tryinig to keep him on. Well, I just talked to him and his parole is delayed due to the investigation, but will happen soon – stay tuned, as long as NJ leaves this on I will post updates and continue to challenge snide remarks. Thank you, and come back!

4/5/2009 7:56:46 AM

BitterHappiness wrote:

It’s amazing how those who feel the need to run John’s name through the mud also are the one’s who feel that the probationer was wronged (He’s a convicted & registered Sex Offender, No real way to sugar coat what he’s done). Regardless of the details on how many violations either of the parties violated, the probationer was not following his terms of probation and John no longer has his job. It appears most of the comments posted are based on what people have heard. No one except John & the parties involved in the particular incident truly know what happened, therefore all the passing of judgement against John, his ex, et al should be put to rest. Besides, the longer the comments continue, the more other parties appear to be brought in which shouldn’t. Noone’s perfect & everyone has a little dirty laundry. No need to hang it out for the world to see.

4/5/2009 2:17:46 AM

Myboys121016 wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

what was the guy on probation for? he raped the girl? and where is he now

Not only did he rape a girl, but he raped his son’s girlfriend. How sick is that?

4/5/2009 2:02:29 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

what was the guy on probation for? he raped the girl? and where is he now

this was to supawoman

4/5/2009 1:33:10 AM

simple-1 wrote:

what was the guy on probation for? he raped the girl? and where is he now

4/5/2009 1:24:21 AM

supawoman1977081127051730 wrote:

Mansfield will always be” ROTTEN TO THE CORE” as long as the judges and police chief and other officals remain the same!!!! they would have to go back darn near 40 yrs to clean out the core of Mansfield!!!!!!!!!!!

4/5/2009 1:23:09 AM

supawoman1977081127051730 wrote:

Bad KARMA! He deserves to be fired! sounds like he was stalking them to me and I have dealt with Mayer personally. I myself was involved with a parolee I called mayer 1 1/2 yrs ago to let him know that i was in fear for the safety of myself and my children i advised him of the illegal activity and total disregard for the law that this guy had. I explained to him that i felt like the supervising officer (Kip) was not doing his job or supervising this person properly. After I finished he aske me” was i callin b/c i was bitter” he questioned my reason for callin to report improper activity! i dont think he cares very much about the community or the p.o’s sittin on their butts all day, this parolee lived with me for well over 8 months and Kip never ever came to do a visit so you tell me who is concerned about the community? I called because i was afraid and he blew me off. 7 months ago i found out that my child was raped by this guy! after i called to complain.Thank You Mayer for nothing!

4/5/2009 1:13:34 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

I also hear Johns been running his mouth at his local watering hole about what he says happened, maybe if someone would be so kind to tell us where that is, we who want the truth about his agenda can go there to get some answers, that’s if he’s not already using his plea to the 5th amendment.

Sounds like whatever happened, you are not happy with this situation? Hang in there

4/5/2009 12:59:20 AM

faithandhope7 wrote:

ATTENTION devils_advocate – take time and read what I wrote! I said it is not to late for you. and no I am not related to John . GOD BLESS

4/5/2009 12:58:01 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

I also hear Johns been running his mouth at his local watering hole about what he says happened, maybe if someone would be so kind to tell us where that is, we who want the truth about his agenda can go there to get some answers, that’s if he’s not already using his plea to the 5th amendment.

4/5/2009 12:55:26 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Replying to simple-1:

Come on! fair and balanced NJ just like O’Reilly. I watched the video from WMFD web tonight and you were in the video with John. Just want all the facts not the defense attorney’s spin.

Not sure, but is probably why a couple of the loud mouths making claims against the former perp have shut up.

4/5/2009 12:48:48 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Does anyone know if this is one of the 11 policy violations John Mayer was in violation of , I heard of the night in question he was also wearing his gun? I would rather run into a sex offender than a drunk with a gun!, especially on an emotional gotta get ya high.

Ask TGRILL he has all the FACTS about the nite in question or maybe even gramgi

4/5/2009 12:48:28 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Does anyone know if this is one of the 11 policy violations John Mayer was in violation of , I heard of the night in question he was also wearing his gun? I would rather run into a sex offender than a drunk with a gun!, especially on an emotional gotta get ya high.

4/5/2009 12:45:04 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Replying to simple-1:

Come on! fair and balanced NJ just like O’Reilly. I watched the video from WMFD web tonight and you were in the video with John. Just want all the facts not the defense attorney’s spin.

It’s really that deep? City, County, or State?

4/5/2009 12:39:35 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Replying to faithandhope7:

To the devils_advocate you seem to have a real problem with article you talk about everyone using backyard knowledge, I would say : you are like a useless book of information. Why do you use GOD in most of your jibber-jabber ? you dont even know him, remember you are the devils_fool!! I mean Advocate. You tell john to repent well only GOD gives those orders. Hope you are ready for Hell, where their is always crying and nashing of teeth, as for myself I’m awaiting for the gates of heaven!! because our GOD is a awsome GOD. it is not to late for you, JOHN 3:16

Are you related to John?, I think you about to crack too! I dance on the subject litely sister, your right, I dont know GOD, my goal is to know him being true to myself. I guess you know GOD, for he has told you I’m going to hell – now that’s a true Christian?

4/5/2009 12:37:07 AM

simple-1 wrote:

after reading the dispatch article and thinking how this article was presented, just is not rite! Y would you post an article with defense attorney’s spin and list the word sex offender rite under another article of a recentlly convicted horendous sex offender if you werent trying to influence the public in one way. It just an observation that the NJ is not balance and might by in to local political politics. HMMMM! If you personally don’t want to burn a bridge then let someone else report it. We all have friends in different professions and its all right to step aside and allow someone with out the ties to report it. Mark is a great reporter don’t get me wrong!

4/5/2009 12:33:18 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Come on! fair and balanced NJ just like O’Reilly. I watched the video from WMFD web tonight and you were in the video with John. Just want all the facts not the defense attorney’s spin.

I think the NJ ploy, if it was one failed miserably, opened a can of worms that could have been kept quite, now the public is gonna want to know what’s going on down there. I hear the investigation is going deeper than just this one probationer, they were going through more records on Friday that could possibly lead to indictments on him and others, a possible conspiracy?

4/5/2009 12:26:14 AM

tom1744 wrote:

devilsadvocate writes,

The key word in thechasman (Most), he was not in the most catagory. (fact)

I’m not saying he was in violation, I don’t know. What I am sating, if the probationer was in violation and needed arrestsed, Mr. Mayer should have gone about it in the right. Not use his position to get at someone who is seeing his ex.

4/5/2009 12:26:12 AM

faithandhope7 wrote:

To the devils_advocate you seem to have a real problem with article you talk about everyone using backyard knowledge, I would say : you are like a useless book of information. Why do you use GOD in most of your jibber-jabber ? you dont even know him, remember you are the devils_fool!! I mean Advocate. You tell john to repent well only GOD gives those orders. Hope you are ready for Hell, where their is always crying and nashing of teeth, as for myself I’m awaiting for the gates of heaven!! because our GOD is a awsome GOD. it is not to late for you, JOHN 3:16

4/5/2009 12:16:56 AM

tom1744 wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

Since you know so much about the case, what was Mayer arrested and charged with? Ask your reformed sex offender friend what violation he was charged with.

Like the article said, out of professional courtesy, nothing. I guess they really are above the law.

4/5/2009 12:15:11 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Come on! fair and balanced NJ just like O’Reilly. I watched the video from WMFD web tonight and you were in the video with John. Just want all the facts not the defense attorney’s spin.

4/5/2009 12:01:48 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to tom1744:

Replying to thechasman:

Also… Most all sex-offenders have stipulations in their probation papers about being around children, & many even have to report being in a relationship. If not its called aprobation violation. As a supervisor it is Johns Job to make sure these things are being done

He was also told to stay away from the probationer. Therefore, since noone was in immediate danger, he should have followed him and called it in for the correct probation officer or a deputy to get this violator. He would rather misuse his authority to take care of a personal vendetta against this guy. He may have needed arrested, but let’s do it properly.

The key word in thechasman (Most), he was not in the most catagory. (fact)

4/4/2009 11:58:58 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

By Alan Johnson

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

A state parole supervisor was fired this week for misusing his authority, while intoxicated, to arrest an ex-convict who was sleeping with the parole official’s former wife.

However, before losing his $33.47-an-hour job with the Ohio Adult Parole Authority, John A. Mayer of Mansfield got a paid vacation, of sorts.

Mayer, 46, was placed on administrative leave Nov. 25, 2008, and was paid his full salary since then — approximately $25,000 — until he was fired on Wednesday, according to records obtained from the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction.

Thats alot of money to sit at home? Why didn’t the the NJ hive us this additional info? Is there ties? makes you wonder

4/4/2009 11:56:17 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

HMMM>>> so what are the facts TGRILL. he see them driving or he go by her house? See wait on facts before blasting the ex? there is more to the story?

and there may be more? I heard he actually followed her to the probationers house without her child mind you, and the reason she went there is he is to have NO contact with the probationer, he apparently has been stalking her. Just an FYI, this can be confirmed (states evidence)- John took the probationers cell phone he was allowed to have after arrested and later called the ex-wife with it since she was not speaking with him it was a way to get through, this can be trouble for him too!, if it was taken as evidence why did he have it to use? Last, but not least – word from the inside, other parole officers have never been happier, ask around? I am willing to bet, the only ones barking in here on his behalf are probably going down with the ship. Word is…Mayer IS NOT coming back – Not Untouchable, sorry DrugDog

4/4/2009 11:50:40 PM

tom1744 wrote:

Replying to thechasman:

Also… Most all sex-offenders have stipulations in their probation papers about being around children, & many even have to report being in a relationship. If not its called aprobation violation. As a supervisor it is Johns Job to make sure these things are being done

He was also told to stay away from the probationer. Therefore, since noone was in immediate danger, he should have followed him and called it in for the correct probation officer or a deputy to get this violator. He would rather misuse his authority to take care of a personal vendetta against this guy. He may have needed arrested, but let’s do it properly.

4/4/2009 11:47:10 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

Since you know so much about the case, what was Mayer arrested and charged with? Ask your reformed sex offender friend what violation he was charged with.

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

Since you know so much about the case, what was Mayer arrested and charged with? Ask your reformed sex offender friend what violation he was charged with.

Wow!, do you know something we don’t, nobody here suggested Mr. Mayer was charged with anything hmmm! , I just suggested in a sense he better not crack anymore than he has, he don’t want to go there. You sure do seem to have

a thing for this offender, are you the father of the 17 year old, or just a friend? I hear 17 in Ohio is legal. I like any smart man should be in Richland County, get a permission slip with a witness 1st or you could face the same demise.

4/4/2009 11:33:39 PM

orvil wrote:

the cop who did not charge John with DUI orOVI and ask him to take a breath test needs to be asked why he didn’t charge him ,or take his license for refusing to take the test if in fact he did refuse.

How many people do you know that has been let go after being stopped and told the cop you had four beers in an hour and smelled like it

4/4/2009 11:17:18 PM

simple-1 wrote:

HMMM>>> so what are the facts TGRILL. he see them driving or he go by her house? See wait on facts before blasting the ex? there is more to the story?

4/4/2009 11:12:21 PM

gramgi wrote:

Since you know so much about the case, what was Mayer arrested and charged with? Ask your reformed sex offender friend what violation he was charged with.

4/4/2009 10:13:46 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

It’s too bad criminals don’t find God before they hurt innocent people, they all repent in prison.

Every sinner should repent, either in prison or out in the world. John Mayer’s day to repent is coming soon! Word has it, he better not go to prison in Ohio

4/4/2009 10:08:15 PM

gramgi wrote:

It’s too bad criminals don’t find God before they hurt innocent people, they all repent in prison.

4/4/2009 9:59:18 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Cassandra Mayer of Mansfield, Mayer’s niece and one of his attorneys, appealed his firing to the State Personnel Board of Review yesterday.

“We do feel this is a wrongful termination,” she said. “There was insufficient evidence to support the allegations.”

A hearing is to be scheduled in about a month.

John A. Mayer could not be reached for comment.

PART 3 OF 3

HEY – T GRILL! YOUR FACTS ARE SOMEHAT FICTION NOW BUDDY! 7 VIOLATIONS DOWN TO 1. AND THIS ONE WILL SOON NOT EXIST. HEADS ARE NOT DONE ROLLING, LIKE I SAID…I HOPE YOU ARE LESS IMPORTANT THAN YOU THINK, CAUSE THE NEXT MAY BE YOU! “Pinocchio”…

4/4/2009 9:58:53 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

When he left the bar, Mayer decided to drive by his ex-wife’s house and saw a car belonging to the former inmate parked in her driveway. Mayer waited until the former inmate — whose name was censored from reports provided to The Dispatch — left the house. Mayer followed him, called the police and had the man arrested for a curfew parole violation.

Mayer went with the former offender to the Richland County jail. Officials there said that Mayer was intoxicated but that they declined to arrest him out of “professional courtesy.” They made sure he got a ride home rather than drive.

Tina L. Patrick, the state hearing officer for Mayer’s case, concluded that he violated numerous rules, including disobeying a supervisor’s direct order to have no contact with the former inmate in question and drinking while acting in his official capacity.

PART 2

4/4/2009 9:51:24 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

By Alan Johnson

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

A state parole supervisor was fired this week for misusing his authority, while intoxicated, to arrest an ex-convict who was sleeping with the parole official’s former wife.

However, before losing his $33.47-an-hour job with the Ohio Adult Parole Authority, John A. Mayer of Mansfield got a paid vacation, of sorts.

Mayer, 46, was placed on administrative leave Nov. 25, 2008, and was paid his full salary since then — approximately $25,000 — until he was fired on Wednesday, according to records obtained from the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction.

He was dismissed for breaking 11 departmental rules.

An official with the Department of Rehabilitation and Correction said the final decision took so long because it was “a complicated case.”

On Nov. 21, Mayer went drinking at a Mansfield-area bar. He acknowledged that he had four 12-ounce beers in about an hour.

PART 1

4/4/2009 9:49:54 PM

simple-1 wrote:

sorry for the typo’s! doesn’t seem as sugar coated as much as NJ’s

4/4/2009 8:42:30 PM

faithandhope7 wrote:

To the : DEVILS_ADVOCATE, each and everyone of us are allowed to voice “OUR” opinions !! , as you seem to be getting that thou syndrome? If fools don’t believe in there hearts that there is no GOD, the callimg yourself the devils advocate is ??? you can leave GOD out of this. And by the way the way your picture theme is kinda like water & oil they just don’t mix together at all !!! and you are never done paying for crimes commited, That is what they call a felony rap sheet it never goes away.

eed to be your picture theme . It is like oil & water they just don’t mix together!!

4/4/2009 6:02:44 PM

BitterHappiness wrote:

i understand that everyone has opinions and concerns especially when it comes to their personal lives and the community they live in. i just have a problem with the way in which some of these opinions and concerns are expressed. i understand seeking the truth but i see alot of personal attacks being voiced. i see no need to belittle or attack one’s credibility based upon an opinion. People ask not to judge the probationer who made one mistake but is

still a good person. i’m not saying this person isn’t good but he wasn’t on parole for shoplifting gum. Are we not forgetting that this blog was started because John lost his job? Was that not the punishment many of you out there was looking for? Why carry on?

Also, let’s not forget that John dedicated 22 years to help keep our community safe. i find it hard to believe that he is that bad of a person to deserve all the negative comments that many of you feel the need to sling at him. i see John as a hero who’s stumbled, not a villian.

4/5/2009 12:59:13 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Well said BitterHappiness my sedements exactly, we live in tough times and when you see a breakdown even in the ranks of the very people who defend us we tend to get testy. We all have the same rights and I see it we should be a better brothers keeper, we dont need chaos. I am not like some who know John, I’ve never met him. I just feel as being a brothers keeper knowing my friends trials of moving on with his life the stigma (they) label sex offenders with make it virtually impossible to look forward even when you are following the book while looking back. A parole officers job is to help these folks back into society, not harrass them back into slipping up. I am not concerned about Johns punishment as much as I am the truth in this artlicle, for here on earth life is tough enough and I believe a GOD someday will sort out the rest, not for me to judge. I agree John did not use his best judgement just as a close friend, may everyone learn from them and move on. Thanks

4/5/2009 2:14:11 PM

dirtypolice419 wrote:

dirtypolice419’s comment has been removed for violating the terms of service.

4/5/2009 2:22:17 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils posting of Columbus Dispatch article:

I remeber last year sometime there was an article where a local cop was cited for OVI. Where was her professional courtesy? Was it b/c the cop( who got charged) was a women? or was is b/c of who Mr. Mayer and his famaily are? Just some food for thaught

4/5/2009 5:22:25 PM

gramgi wrote:

I find it interesting that if anything is said about the CONVICTED sex offender, Devil is quick to quote bible verses and say he just made a mistake and as usual he’s been framed, but Devil doesn’t take his own advice and not cast stones against Mayer,hmm, could it be Devil is the same sex offender in this article? He sure has all the prison jargon down to make one think so. I don’t hold much faith in rehabilitation, I believe the con artist that they are they get all the right talk down and have had plenty of time to figure out how not to get caught the next time. I believe past behavior is an indicator of future behavior that is why there is such a revolving door on the prison gates.

4/5/2009 7:12:40 PM

sheshi16 wrote:

It’s apparent from so many comments that many of you out there have been fooled by his charisma and charm…I assure you, this only runs as far as you are willing to cover his arse. I knew JM very well, for many years, and can testify to many of his alcholic antics. Many people choose to keep their mouths shut, due to the unwelcome harrrassment they may receive if they speak out . As far as the any thing else, his dedication to his job, is simply fueled by addiction to alcohol and the need to keep himself out of trouble…and is usually able to steer any trouble away and to his favor with little to no family effort of helpful interventions, depending on the seriousness of his “mistake”. There were and are many other officers of the law that are far more deserving of good praise than Mr. Mayer, who by the way, did not get hired to the APA until after 1991.. He’s only got as far as his name would take him and his behaviors have finally caught up with him. It’s amazing it took this long.

4/5/2009 9:53:15 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

gramgi, you’re just gonna have to get use to your buddy being gone, get over it!. He was the Bernie Madoff of law enforcement from what it appears, everyone thought he was something he wasn’t, and NOW there shocked? If your theory is correct , I guess we’ll be seeing him again in the news, and maybe this time it will take getting someone killed to get him locked up. I can assure you I am not anyone in this article, nor have I ever been in one, and the only article you see me in will be my obituary, and then, only then can injustice go on unchallenged, for I am the devils advocate and dont YOU forget it. I am not throwing stones, just merely picking up on things that dont make sense that apprently you can’t because your as snow blind as he was. I do commend you for sticking around while the other defenders of his unjust reasons all disappeared. I take it your either one of them who is either set, or retired, they have families to feed. take care, and see you soon!

4/5/2009 11:23:06 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

To those who have run their mouths without the facts, let this be a lesson on speaking before you do your homework. I would have to say it’s safe to say since there has been NO posts here of what the OFFICIAL parole violation was we can say 11 departmental rules vs 0 parole violations even though Columbus dispatch said there was one, STILL – not confirmed. TGRILL said there was 7, and that was speculation, not fact as he said. I assume if nobody by the end of the day can post what the so called perverts violation was we can finally put this bogus article to rest. I don’t believe everything I read in the paper like some. I want to thank the NJ for leaving us blog our opinions about the article, I really thought you would pull the plug before the truth came out about this.

4/6/2009 9:05:42 AM

revcrash wrote:

My primary concern is the wreckless endangerment involving subjecting a child to an environment where a convicted sex offender is present. That seems to be an issue the State is more and more comfortable with. It amazes me there is no outcry from every political activist campaign that cries out it is for the safety of the children except when it comes to this situation. Regardless of JM’s activities it speaks volumes about the Mother and her appetites and responsibilities. No mention of children’s services being involved.

4/6/2009 10:35:14 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

I believe the con artist that they are they get all the right talk down and have had plenty of time to figure out how not to get caught the next time. I believe past behavior is an indicator of future behavior that is why there is such a revolving door on the prison gates.

lot of rumors have been flying around! You seem to know Mr. Mayer? RE: your last two sentences. Rumor has it JM was in the system as a Juvenile! Do you or anyone have the answer? If true, would the contradict or change your opinion of your last sentence? I don’t wanna pass judgement either way unitl all facts are known.

4/6/2009 10:51:51 AM

Replying to revcrash:

My primary concern is the wreckless endangerment involving subjecting a child to an environment where a convicted sex offender is present. That seems to be an issue the State is more and more comfortable with. It amazes me there is no outcry from every political activist campaign that cries out it is for the safety of the children except when it comes to this situation. Regardless of JM’s activities it speaks volumes about the Mother and her appetites and responsibilities. No mention of children’s services being involved.

IF you’re so concerned, maybe you should call them rather than subject yourself to ridicule based on speculation like everyone else coming to JM’s defense. I see your new to the posts, you must have came straight from the bar, take a nap and come back once your thinking logically.

4/6/2009 10:57:35 AM

gramgi wrote:

I don’t even know this man, I’m just tired of all the law enforcement bashing, criminals like those who post on here are crybabies who don’t like to play by the rules, they are the first to claim their innocence and how injust the system is to them, how all police are out to get them, but when it comes to a possible wrongdoing by law enforcement the criminals are ready to hang them. Most probationers don’t like their PO’s( I am not one nor have ever been one) because they have to follow rules set by a judge. If you don’t like how your treated don’t break the law, sex offenders are more likely to reoffend, so thats why normal people don’t feel any sympathy for them. I tire of hearing they just made a mistake, a mistake is when you leave the milk on the counter or forget to leave the dog back in, not when you intentionaly cause harm to another person because your a pervert.

4/6/2009 11:10:00 AM

simple-1 wrote:

to gramgi,

Maybe mistake is a bad term to use when it comes to felons. Maybe a better term is bad decision or non thought out decision which could affect anothers life. Thanks for your response! Maybe be someone has the answer like Tgrill. I was just referencing your statement cause you didn’t elaborate (SO). Do you have a position if the question posed was true? Thanks for your thaughts!

4/6/2009 11:21:40 AM

simple-1 wrote:

gramgi,

Just had a thaught! “Sex offenders are more like to re-offend”, based on what study. Cause I follow the paper and it seems that there are people that continue to show up in the news by re-offending. Their crimes are drugs, OVI’s, robberies, assault, Domestic violence, and other property offenses. You hardly hear of as sex offender re-offending but when they do it is all over the front page. Maybe due to the nature of the crime it becomes more publicized and society pays more attention.

4/6/2009 11:32:53 AM

simple-1 wrote:

Sorry Gramgi but the more I sit and think about your statement I get another thaught. First, the commission of sex offense is not condonable nor is any other law violation. It’s becoming my opinion that the word sex offender was put into the article to maybe minimize anothers behavior. B/c I’ve asked for facts an no have been provided, HINT TGRILL. If there is a stusy out there, I would bet that you would find that more people are killed each year by re-offending OVI’s, DV”s and possibly drug offenders than re-offending sex offender’s. Anyone have the #’s or study to post or reference.

4/6/2009 11:59:31 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

gramgi, ok – we now know why your so defensive, all I ask is you choose not to speculate!. You are speculating I am a criminal, and speculating I am bashing law enforcement, that’s simply not true if you think about what I am saying. I am sorry if you are taking me that way, I can see your point to why you do, it’s your opinion and in the way you think. You remind me of someone who probably believed back in the day of segregation and thought that was ok too!, all I am saying is…we all have rights, and if we took more time to learn them as well as the law we would be better for it. What I see here that you apparently don’t. In you own words, follow the rules by the judge, I am blue in the face trying to spell it out for you. Here’s a synopsis of the last 5 years! by the judges rules, 2 years in prison, probation after release, off parole April 1, some people dont like the judges rules, tried there best to not let him move on, they didn’t follow the rules, now it’s there turn!

4/6/2009 12:15:38 PM

simple-1 wrote:

DEVIL-ADV:

You seem to know this offender and his ex? Is he still on probation/parole? Did he have rules to stay away from children? Has he had a probation violation? just a few questions thaught maybe you could answer since TGRILL wont come back. Just thaught maybe you could answer that question b/c the dispatch cited curfew violation not contact violations. just thaught maybe you had the inside scoop!

4/6/2009 12:31:08 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Simple1, I can tell you this…

Yes, he was on probation at the time with only a few months to go, there are some details I am sure from this case that they are carefully looking at before he is let go. He would NOT jeapordize getting off parole and has dotted his I’s and crossed his T’s in doing so, like I said he was penciled for April 1, some april fools joke, huh?.

Yes, there were rules, but unsure exactly to what extent. Food for thought, he worked in the VOA house and was a leader of good example, he worked in the area where there were kids dropped for visitation without supervision while working – not sure of that matters. From what I understand so far neither paper got it right to where and how this gone down, it is my understanding this was a weekend when the biological ather has the daughter?, need finalization on this. It is my understanding you can’t get a curfew violation in your own yard, where this actually happened. We are near the bottom, only more time will tell.

4/6/2009 1:06:49 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Simple1, I wrote the Columbus Dispatch and asked about their info.on the 1 violation, they could not validate because the information they recieved on this is sketchy he said at best since there were things blacked out in the report. He is pulling records as we speak, the truth is coming!

4/6/2009 1:13:14 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Simple1, I wrote the Columbus Dispatch and asked about their info.on the 1 violation, they could not validate because the information they recieved on this is sketchy he said at best since there were things blacked out in the report. He is pulling records as we speak, the truth is coming!

Hate to say this NJ: Guess the dispatch is still on top of this story and looks to not have the local ties. So it is possible that they will have less spin from defense attorneys and more facts. Hate to tell your readers to follow-up in the dispatch but if you want reporting w/o spin then readers you have the right to make that choice. Things possibly could be reported with facts and not defense attorney’s spin. That’s to bad as I am a long-time supporter of the NJ.

4/6/2009 1:51:24 PM

gramgi wrote:

Talk about making assumptions about someone, if you knew me being racist would never ever cross your mind, I had a laugh at that one. I may not be making myself clear, it’s just this case is about a sex offender so that is why I am only commenting on this crime. I have no tolerence of any crime, as far as rights go, I feel when a criminal takes the

rights away from another person by harming them in any way, the criminal forfeits all their rights, over the years the criminals rights have begun to outweigh the victims rights. I have heard women talk about being molested as children, they struggle their entire life trying to deal with it, a friend had a gun held to her head in a robbery, it has affected her life also. But we as law abiding citizens are supposed to feel bad that a felon is branded as a criminal for life, boo hoo, they made the conscience choice to hurt another person so deal with the after affects of their choices, their innocent victims have to.

4/6/2009 2:23:55 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Gramgi:

I value your opinion but slightly disagree. It’s my opinion by reading both articles this is about a person (JM) being disciplined for his actions. His attorney and NJ made this artcle about the offender. With all do repect, for me the jury is still out. Something from my gut tells me things aren’t just right. Remember this is not about a persons offense, it is about a persons actions. If that sex offender walked intomy place of employment and I knew who he was I couldn’t treat him any different then the rest of my customers. Why just b/c it is not right, his prior decisions should affect my morality. I may be a little more cautious but wouldnt treat him any differently.

4/6/2009 3:16:23 PM

thechasman wrote:

Simple-1, Devils Advocate.You 2 really seem to have a soft spot for sex offenders. You do nothing but defend them. Makes me wonder about your mindset. Are you 2 sex-offenders? Devils Adv. you admit knowing this guy & normally birds of the same feather flock together. Maybe this parolee should start baby-sitting for you since you think so highly of him. Although, From the sounds of things, I’m sure in your mind sex- offenders are all good people who have been treated unfair. A commen theme in sex-offenders.Makes me wonder about you for sure. I work & have worked with a few offenders. Some where ok guys. & some of their crimes where worse than others. I know enough about the system to know that if he is on parole he has stipulations about being around children & being in relationships unless approved by his officer. It may not be politicly correct but if I was John Mayer the guy would have never had to worry about violations. It would have went another direction. 1 less piece of trash.

4/6/2009 3:17:03 PM

simple-1 wrote:

RE: Why just b/c it is not right, his prior decisions should affect my morality. I may be a little more cautious but wouldnt treat him any differently.

Sorry for the typo! Should of read:

Why just b/c it is not right, his prior decisions shouldn’t affect my morality. I may be a little more cautious but wouldnt treat him any differently.

4/6/2009 3:20:07 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

gramgi, you lack logical thinking and could not understand words if they were explained to you – I give up on the way you think about what I say to you, you just don’t get it. M.A.D.D. is probably another organization you disagree with – They wanna hear more about “professional courtesy” , you tend to forget…He was intoxicated, carrying a weapon, and driving. Why else would someone drive him home, it appears someone was using their head. As far as proving he had a weapon before you slam back, we will hear more about that in testimony.

4/6/2009 3:25:03 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Chasman:

Nope not an offender and far from it! As/If you read in my previous statement, I’m asking for facts to draw my conclusion. Sure hope you don’t work in Law Enforcement or the city/ county may go bankrupt from lawsuits. If you read closely, I am not defending anyone- the offender or Mr. Mayer. Someone has to be the voice of reason and request the facts and only the facts. Mayer or the offender are not my friend, since you ask. Didn’t say all sex offnders are good people! See obviously you are belittling me for asking/making valid points, You a friend of Mayer? Can you provide me with unskewed facts? If you read all my blogs, I haven’t taken anyside but have just raised questions in comparing both articles.

4/6/2009 3:42:09 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Hey Chasman, maybe we can take this forum to the square on National Television and let the public decide, I want a jury of my peers, not a mockery like the one everyone else is afraid of. We need to change the way people speak to one another, that is the problem. You don’t know me, and if you like let’s set it up! I’ll be there, wil you? – I would not be afraid in public anymore than I am in here, for I am a citizen who follows the law, I’m not broke because I’m crooked!, I’m broke because I am honest.

I know too well the saying…”Birds of a feather flock together”, I’ve been down town, everythings a secret behind those closed doors! Let’s open it up to the public! News Flash….Coming soon! Look around dude, we are suppose to trust the system, not fear it!

No, I DON’T defend all sex offenders, just this one, this particular case – you said it yourself, working around a few some were good guys and some crimes were worse than others. So!, do you know this one?. Just be fair.

4/6/2009 3:56:47 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

gramgi, you lack logical thinking and could not understand words if they were explained to you – I give up on the way you think about what I say to you, you just don’t get it. M.A.D.D. is probably another organization you disagree with – They wanna hear more about “professional courtesy” , you tend to forget…He was intoxicated, carrying a weapon, and driving. Why else would someone drive him home, it appears someone was using their head. As far as proving he had a weapon before you slam back, we will hear more about that in testimony.

If this is the case(gun)? Is the Attorney Generals office or FBI involved?

4/6/2009 3:57:02 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

gramgi, you lack logical thinking and could not understand words if they were explained to you – I give up on the way you think about what I say to you, you just don’t get it. M.A.D.D. is probably another organization you disagree with – They wanna hear more about “professional courtesy” , you tend to forget…He was intoxicated, carrying a weapon, and driving. Why else would someone drive him home, it appears someone was using their head. As far as proving he had a weapon before you slam back, we will hear more about that in testimony.

I don’t know if they are, I am sure we’ll hear more, this is a serious allegation from someone who was there, stay tuned. I know the mother (ex) was investigated by children services night of the article.

4/6/2009 4:05:37 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Devil_adv:

This many months after the fact? Something don’t seem right? If there was an issue, then why wait til now to look into it? Has she sought legal counsel? Do you think this maybe a strong arm tactic for her to back off?

4/6/2009 4:12:46 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Devil-Adv:

Just sitting here thing and mind boggled about what you just told me! So Children services just came out to ex’s after the article was released? The defense attorney was quick to point out the main concern was the sex offnder who is dating the ex. So if there is so much of a concern from his client as to the childs safety, then why hasn’t it been looked into before now. In the position which his client held there comes with it the duty to report things that you think may cause/ have caused harm to a child.Things and their chronilogical order just don’t make sense. If that’s his defense, then shouldn’t he have reported it to children services the next day not it coming out in the paper 6months later? HMMMMMMMMMMM?

4/6/2009 4:31:04 PM

gramgi wrote:

Get a grip Devil, did I hit a nerve? You have so much inside info, maybe your a little too close to the criminal element in Mansfield, you have brought up he maybe had a gun, he maybe drove drunk, was he charged with anything yet? Talk about not waiting for the facts, you are ready to be judge and jury on this one by believing a convicted sex offender, who I’m sure can be trusted to tell the truth. It seems to me you should maybe find some new friends, you know way to much about a felons personal life, eventually you start thinking like one. If Mayer is found to have been doing anything illegal he should be dealt with accordingly. I’m sure it will make your day, it seems to me he would have been charged already but since you have all the answers why hasn’t he? Oh yeah the cops are all crooked too.

4/6/2009 4:51:52 PM

simple-1 wrote:

Devil-adv:

Has the wife ever feared for her safety? Has she told anyone? I can relate to her if she has! Let us all keep in mind, if the facts in the dispatch article are true and she fears her ex-husband, we should not continue to punish her. Let me remind you of the Suburb of Chicago Officer that may have killed his two wives and the Akron officer that was found guilty of taking his wifes life and there maybe countless others. Some people don’t think to clearly when it comes to

love and with their position, the power and control and retaliation could come into play. Hang in there John’s ex. whoever you are and be cautious?

4/6/2009 4:58:07 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

You’re telling me, I dont have the answers to exactly how many times, or if this is the 1st, I was just answering a fella who asked if child services were involved, and yes they were. I know her and the biological father as I once said – I will not elaborate on their personal business, it’s not my business and I like them both. They have done nothing wrong in my opinion, just need away from JM and this mess.

4/6/2009 5:17:54 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to simple-1:

Devil-adv:

Has the wife ever feared for her safety? Has she told anyone? I can relate to her if she has! Let us all keep in mind, if the facts in the dispatch article are true and she fears her ex-husband, we should not continue to punish her. Let me remind you of the Suburb of Chicago Officer that may have killed his two wives and the Akron officer that was found guilty of taking his wifes life and there maybe countless others. Some people don’t think to clearly when it comes to love and with their position, the power and control and retaliation could come into play. Hang in there John’s ex. whoever you are and be cautious?

Sorry, I have NO details on personal reasons that may have attributed to how it all led up, the probationer was just looking forward to completing his sentence and probation when this happened, we will just have to wait and see if there’s a happy ending. I think there will be, don’t worry.

4/6/2009 5:27:49 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to gramgi:

Get a grip Devil, did I hit a nerve? You have so much inside info, maybe your a little too close to the criminal element in Mansfield, you have brought up he maybe had a gun, he maybe drove drunk, was he charged with anything yet? Talk about not waiting for the facts, you are ready to be judge and jury on this one by believing a convicted sex offender, who I’m sure can be trusted to tell the truth. It seems to me you should maybe find some new friends, you know way to much about a felons personal life, eventually you start thinking like one. If Mayer is found to have been doing anything illegal he should be dealt with accordingly. I’m sure it will make your day, it seems to me he would have been charged already but since you have all the answers why hasn’t he? Oh yeah the cops are all crooked too.

You’re right, his mother was there, before the other cops showed up!, saw everything! You don’t get fired for petty allegations grampi with no chance of reinstatement.

4/6/2009 5:36:43 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Simple1 To answer your message’s,

1 – word on the street is right, and Columbus will be running a follow up of their own with details of it along with a statement from a horses mouth who was there. They said expect it in the next 3 to 4 days.

2- I hope he uses due dilegence before he putting anymore out there, that could be the nail.

I could have copied an e-mail back from them after the stories were compared, but out of due respect I did not want to steal their thunder. stay tuned…

4/6/2009 6:37:19 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

A closing statement for those who may have been in here that either work for the city, county, or state – I am hoping if it may that if the speculations, allegations, and dirty laundry as some depicted are used in defense or for civil suits that the mindsets you have for using a criminal to justify actions you are fired too!, we don’t need people working on tax payers money speaking out in defense of something so apparently wrong. In my view, you better be working on “professional courtesy” a bit more and get your stories right, until someone can PROVE anything but speculation that there was any parole violations there may be a whole host of folks going down the toilet right along with this guy.

One last thing! The ONLY violation that was given to the Dispatch on a curfew violation, it’s not true either. His curfew is 10pm, and he was checked into jail around 9pm, check your own records!

4/7/2009 9:56:34 AM

serenity8 wrote:

I have mixed emotions abuot this one. The article said the 8-year old girl was John’s ex-wife’s daughter. So, she wasn’t John’s daughter? I can understand his concern for the daughter being around a sex offender, but if it wasn’t his daughter, and he wasn’t the offender’s assigned probation officer, he should have stayed out of it, and perhaps he did misuse his authority. My concern is the ex-wife. What kind of a mother exposed their child to a sex offender?

4/7/2009 2:54:11 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to serenity8:

I have mixed emotions abuot this one. The article said the 8-year old girl was John’s ex-wife’s daughter. So, she wasn’t John’s daughter? I can understand his concern for the daughter being around a sex offender, but if it wasn’t his daughter, and he wasn’t the offender’s assigned probation officer, he should have stayed out of it, and perhaps he did misuse his authority. My concern is the ex-wife. What kind of a mother exposed their child to a sex offender?

You will need to read on, answers to most of your questions are within. To answer your second question. She’s known him for sometime and knows the circumstances of his crime, we all too often stereotype or demonize things we either don’t know much about and understand. In this offenders case, and not just ’cause he’s a friend, the world is safe! Now, when it comes to vigilante’s, none of us are. The last I heard, witch hunts outside the law were illegal, but who knows in this day and age?

4/7/2009 3:41:09 PM

ragingredneck wrote:

Wondering why, if he thought child was in danger, he didn’t call the police and get an on duty officer out there?

We’ll learn more as this progresses, and it looks like it has a long way to go.

4/8/2009 8:44:22 AM

serenity8 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Replying to serenity8:

My concern is the ex-wife. What kind of a mother exposed their child to a sex offender?

You will need to read on, answers to most of your questions are within. To answer your second question. She’s known him for sometime and knows the circumstances of his crime, we all too often stereotype or demonize things we either don’t know much about and understand. In this offenders case, and not just ’cause he’s a friend, the world is safe! Now, when it comes to vigilante’s, none of us are. The last I heard, witch hunts outside the law were illegal, but who knows in this day and age?

I am not stereotyping anyone. He is a sex offender, black and white. I am not judging him or saying he is a bad person. But as a parent, I would not expose my child to a sex offender.

4/8/2009 9:41:18 AM

serenity8 wrote:

I do agree that John chose to disobey a direct order and he should have to face the consequences. He expects his offenders to obey the rules, and he should have to follow the rules as well. But I still wonder about the ex-wife’s parenting.

4/8/2009 9:43:48 AM

jfin20 wrote:

Why do people try to see sex offenders as bad people? I understand that people who mess with little kids should be locked up. I am a sex offender who was dating a 15 year old when I was 18. When I broke up with her, her parents took me to court and now i am labeled a sex offender. I am 29 now and still have to endure this mistake. I agree that people who have kids which i have 2 of my own and one on the way, should watch out for people who prey on little ones. Just don’t lable every single sex offender as a bad egg. Some of us just got caught up in the wrong situation and are still paying for it.

4/8/2009 4:22:09 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to serenity8:

I do agree that John chose to disobey a direct order and he should have to face the consequences. He expects his offenders to obey the rules, and he should have to follow the rules as well. But I still wonder about the ex-wife’s parenting.

With all due respect serenity, you can’t believe everthing you read in the paper, especially when they are attorney paid spins. Todays article for instance the article said the probationer was charged and put on strickter probation, that is far from the truth. Today he was put on phase2 a promotion, next level he’s off probation, he was also told he in NO investigations and there are NO charges against him for violation(s) to his parole. This angers me they can fuel the public with lies, all I ask is watch for the Dispatch in the coming days, the truth is coming! This will not help Mayers case and is an outrage they are wasting tax payers dollars, he screwed up move on, these lies are just a slap in the face to justify his wrong

4/8/2009 5:33:32 PM

finaljustic wrote:

what does all this say about John if his ex-wife would rather be with a convicted sex offender? Besides if they were convicted in Richland County they are probably innocent and took a plea because you cannot beat the Mayers in Richland County along with probation department lying to the judges before you stand in front of the good ole boy network.

4/8/2009 10:41:30 PM

BitterHappiness wrote:

Replying to finaljustic:

what does all this say about John if his ex-wife would rather be with a convicted sex offender? Besides if they were convicted in Richland County they are probably innocent and took a plea because you cannot beat the Mayers in Richland County along with probation department lying to the judges before you stand in front of the good ole boy network.

It still amazes me how the majority of comments directed at John are against law-enforcement & the justice system as a whole. i have been following this since the story broke last week & decided to do some research myself. The Convicted Sex Offender was NOT innocent & had the more serious & heinous of charges dropped in favor of the lesser. He too had a very prominant and reputable attorney representing him. Would this imply that justice wasn’t served?

4/8/2009 11:45:54 PM

serenity8 wrote:

Replying to jfin20:

Why do people try to see sex offenders as bad people? I understand that people who mess with little kids should be locked up. I am a sex offender who was dating a 15 year old when I was 18. When I broke up with her, her parents took me to court and now i am labeled a sex offender. I am 29 now and still have to endure this mistake. I agree that people who have kids which i have 2 of my own and one on the way, should watch out for people who prey on little ones. Just don’t lable every single sex offender as a bad egg. Some of us just got caught up in the wrong situation and are still paying for it.

Thank you for taking the time to write that. I have to admit that I made the mistake of thinking of sex offenders as child molesters. I guess I shouldn’t be so closed-minded about that. Does anyone know what the offender’s crime was? Did it involve a child?

4/9/2009 12:21:32 AM

serenity8 wrote:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Replying to serenity8:

With all due respect serenity, you can’t believe everthing you read in the paper, especially when they are attorney paid spins. Todays article for instance the article said the probationer was charged and put on strickter probation, that is far from the truth. Today he was put on phase2 a promotion, next level he’s off probation, he was also told he in NO investigations and there are NO charges against him for violation(s) to his parole.

4/9/2009 12:30:13 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to BitterHappiness:

Replying to finaljustic:

what does all this say about John if his ex-wife would rather be with a convicted sex offender? Besides if they were convicted in Richland County they are probably innocent and took a plea because you cannot beat the Mayers in Richland County along with probation department lying to the judges before you stand in front of the good ole boy network.

It still amazes me how the majority of comments directed at John are against law-enforcement & the justice system as a whole. i have been following this since the story broke last week & decided to do some research myself. The Convicted Sex Offender was NOT innocent & had the more serious & heinous of charges dropped in favor of the lesser. He too had a very prominant and reputable attorney representing him. Would this imply that justice wasn’t served?

Nope, just proves it couldn’t be proved, thats why they did it!

4/9/2009 7:52:46 AM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Replying to serenity8:

Replying to Devils_Advocate:

Replying to serenity8:

With all due respect serenity, you can’t believe everthing you read in the paper, especially when they are attorney paid spins. Todays article for instance the article said the probationer was charged and put on strickter probation, that is far from the truth. Today he was put on phase2 a promotion, next level he’s off probation, he was also told he in NO investigations and there are NO charges against him for violation(s) to his parole.

You seem to know a lot about the offender. Do you know about his crime? Did it involve a child? I’m just trying to gather all the facts, because it could possibly change my opinion.

read my reply in the other forum, for some reason NJ keeps plucking my posts, I am telling the truth!

4/9/2009 7:59:45 AM

hope99 wrote:

To all off you who are defending John Mayer and his job, you need to shut up until you know the whole story. John stalked and harrassed his ex-wife and was aloud to get away with it from the MPD because of his position. You dont know how scared her daughter is of John. All of this was hidden by the MPD. What about your missing “state issued”

gun John? Many, many facts are being hidden. John not only deserves to be fired, but actually would be in prison if we lived in any other county in the US. Richland county is as dirty as they come!!!

4/10/2009 5:53:05 PM

plastercastered wrote:

Replying to hope99:

hope99, AMEN!!! Somebody follow up about the gun, Carl Monday? Someone? as long as this crook did what he wanted to ,to who he wanted due to his family & job We’d love to see him finally get the prison time he’s deserved for years!.

To all off you who are defending John Mayer and his job, you need to shut up until you know the whole story. John stalked and harrassed his ex-wife and was aloud to get away with it from the MPD because of his position. You dont know how scared her daughter is of John. All of this was hidden by the MPD. What about your missing “state issued” gun John? Many, many facts are being hidden. John not only deserves to be fired, but actually would be in prison if we lived in any other county in the US. Richland county is as dirty as they come!!!

4/10/2009 7:46:54 PM

Devils_Advocate wrote:

Hope 99 – I don’t know who you are, but you have to be close to know about this – the guns not missing, he knows right where it is and he should have used his head rather than loan it out for protection – are you saying this person still has it?. When this story broke I heard so many things from so many people if any of it was true I thought to myself, this guy is toast if any of it can be proved. After hearing quite a few defending in here saying you can’t prove this or that, I wonder at this point, how do they know what can and can’t be proved? hmmm!

4/10/2009 10:19:24 PM

whiterose2008 wrote:

Replying to hope99:

To all off you who are defending John Mayer and his job, you need to shut up until you know the whole story. John stalked and harrassed his ex-wife and was aloud to get away with it from the MPD because of his position. You dont know how scared her daughter is of John. All of this was hidden by the MPD. What about your missing “state issued” gun John? Many, many facts are being hidden. John not only deserves to be fired, but actually would be in prison if we lived in any other county in the US. Richland county is as dirty as they come!!!

Sadly. I am not surprised. Cops in this area have always been corrupt. What we need is dedicated citizens to take a stand and speak out.

I have made many enemies on this forum by speaking out. I am very proud of that. It is good to see others doing the same. PLEASE STAY and continue speaking the truth.

4/10/2009 11:11:10 PM

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

yes. I know the relationship between the ex and the probationer…for fact.

your right, people do make mistakes, and people can change. I have been in the law field for a number of years and 2 counts of RAPE …constitutes more than just a mistake! would you bring a murderer around your children if they only killed 2 people as opposed to 5??? come on!

The word sex offender doesn’t scare me near as much as the ignorant people in this town. Mr.Spon will make sure justice is served. I am sure of that.

The facts are there. The firing was unwarranted. He may have had a lapse in judgment because he was emotionally involved, but that does not make him wrong! only human!

These are facts and not speculations.

Since you know this case so well and this guy is sooooo bad. What happended to all the Violations you stated existed? So this guy was sent to prison? If not who is the Judge that didn’t ship this god aweful person to prison (based on ur facts)? so u got answers mr. tgrill to help me draw a conclusion. I want all the fact before drawing an opinion on a mother/ex-wife, probationer, supervisor. Do supervisors normally supervise people on probation? Did he tell the guys officer that the offender wasinviolation and if so then y was anything done? Waiting an a reponse TGRILL

yes. I know the relationship between the ex and the probationer…for fact.

your right, people do make mistakes, and people can change. I have been in the law field for a number of years and 2 counts of RAPE …constitutes more than just a mistake! would you bring a murderer around your children if they only killed 2 people as opposed to 5??? come on!

The word sex offender doesn’t scare me near as much as the ignorant people in this town. Mr.Spon will make sure justice is served. I am sure of that.

The facts are there. The firing was unwarranted. He may have had a lapse in judgment because he was emotionally involved, but that does not make him wrong! only human!

These are facts and not speculations.

Since you know this case so well and this guy is sooooo bad. What happended to all the Violations you stated existed? So this guy was sent to prison? If not who is the Judge that didn’t ship this god aweful person to prison (based on ur facts)? so u got answers mr. tgrill to help me draw a conclusion. I want all the fact before drawing an opinion on a mother/ex-wife, probationer, supervisor. Do supervisors normally supervise people on probation? Did he tell the guys officer that the offender wasinviolation and if so then y was anything done? Waiting an a reponse TGRILL

First of all…you dont even know me, and i am just stating the facts! Just because his name was not in the paper doesn’t mean no one knows who he is.

I am not biased, and how dare you even begin to pretend that you know me. I know alot of people in the court systems, many attorneys, many PO’s, many Judges. I give people the benefit of the doubt when they infact deserve it, because it is not my place to judge. When your name changes to GOD…let me know.

When you are a convicted felon, and you have specific guidelines to follow or be sent back to prison…you are right, just turn em’ all loose and give them more rights than we have. Thats LOGICAL! Do you have a daughter they can hang out with????

Again, he worked for the state, he worked with sex-offenders. Maybe no one likes him, but he has done his job for 22 years!

yes. I know the relationship between the ex and the probationer…for fact.

your right, people do make mistakes, and people can change. I have been in the law field for a number of years and 2 counts of RAPE …constitutes more than just a mistake! would you bring a murderer around your children if they only killed 2 people as opposed to 5??? come on!

The word sex offender doesn’t scare me near as much as the ignorant people in this town. Mr.Spon will make sure justice is served. I am sure of that.

The facts are there. The firing was unwarranted. He may have had a lapse in judgment because he was emotionally involved, but that does not make him wrong! only human!

First of all…you dont even know me, and i am just stating the facts! Just because his name was not in the paper doesn’t mean no one knows who he is.

I am not biased, and how dare you even begin to pretend that you know me. I know alot of people in the court systems, many attorneys, many PO’s, many Judges. I give people the benefit of the doubt when they infact deserve it, because it is not my place to judge. When your name changes to GOD…let me know.

When you are a convicted felon, and you have specific guidelines to follow or be sent back to prison…you are right, just turn em’ all loose and give them more rights than we have. Thats LOGICAL! Do you have a daughter they can hang out with????

Again, he worked for the state, he worked with sex-offenders. Maybe no one likes him, but he has done his job for 22 years!

At the moment Officer Mayer attempted to possibly arrest this offender, Mr Mayer’s BAC was less than .00176 which is less than 1/4 of the .08 legal limit. Mr Mayer was not only not intoxicated, he was lawfully operating a motor vehicle.

The Children’s Services Board should investigate as to why the mother of an 8 year old child is fraternizing with a known convicted serious Sex Offender.

These are facts and not speculations.

[/

PO fired!, 7 violations probationer runs free? – somebody’s lying????????

Off duty.

Not his client

disobeyed an order to stay away from the probationer

had been drinking

involved his ex-wife.

just a few reasons Mayer should have stayed out of the situation.

In addition, people should lay off making judgements about the ex with out having the whole story or atleast hearing from her. Did she have problems in the past w/ Mr. Mayer? Has she ever filed anything for protection? Is this probationer the childs father? Just some of alot of unanswered questions.

You seem to know a lot about the offender. Do you know about his crime? Did it involve a child? I’m just trying to gather all the facts, because it could possibly change my opinion.

Devil_adv:

This many months after the fact? Something don’t seem right? If there was an issue, then why wait til now to look into it? Has she sought legal counsel? Do you think this maybe a strong arm tactic for her to back off?

If this is the case(gun)? Is the Attorney Generals office or FBI involved?

Thats cheesy

I think the NJ ploy, if it was one failed miserably, opened a can of worms that could have been kept quite, now the public is gonna want to know what’s going on down there. I hear the investigation is going deeper than just this one probationer, they were going through more records on Friday that could possibly lead to indictments on him and others, a possible conspiracy?

I think the NJ ploy, if it was one failed miserably, opened a can of worms that could have been kept quite, now the public is gonna want to know what’s going on down there. I hear the investigation is going deeper than just this one probationer, they were going through more records on Friday that could possibly lead to indictments on him and others, a possible conspiracy?

It’s really that deep? City, County, or State?

this was to supawoman

· · March 21 at 8:10am

Phil Sydnor I’m BEGGING!!!! – IF these TRUTHS I have shared over the last 4 years are false, arrest me, and let the TRIAL begin for the World to see how bad this County is!.

March 21 at 8:13am ·

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Time Sup yes me to

March 21 at 11:53pm ·

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