Is 2014 the year for gay marriage in Ohio?

 

Is 2014 the year for gay marriage in Ohio?

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  • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

    What part of the word “UNConstitutional” don’t today’s irration antigay bigots GET anyway, one is starting to wonder….
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    • Kevin Rooker ·  Top Commenter · Moline Senior High School

      “State’s rights! State’s rights!” As conservatives seem to complain too often about the Federal government imposting its will on the States, the fight has been taken to each individual State by the LGBY community and friends. And the State’s are finding that you can’t gussy up discrimination, we can see it how it is.
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    • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

      ^^^^THAT^^^^
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  • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

    THUMP THESE, ANTIGAY BIBLE THUMPER:Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

    1 Timothy 6:4 he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions

    Ephesians 3:2 Surely you hav…See More

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    • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

      NO ONE IS FOOLED BY TODAY’S 21ST CENTURY PHARISEES..(Jesus would OF COURSE be on the side of the folks who CAN win in Federal Courts of law with THE TRUTH, UNDER OATH to the same God these remaining Antigays adore slandering sooo…

      ENOUGH.

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  • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

    IT’S GENDER DISCRIMINATION 101, FOLKS!If Woman A, has been living in a committed household with her soul mate Woman B for 30 years, Antigays claim Woman A has no constitutional right to marry her soul mate.

    Simply because Woman A does not have a penis.

    Antigays insist that no other requirement is necessary for her to exercise her constitutional right to marry the law-abiding partner of her choice but to have a penis that she neither possesses, nor wants to possess. Ever.

    Nor can Woman B marry woman A, even though they are in a committed love relationship of many more years than most str8 “marriages” tend to last.

    BUT…

    Enter Man C, just out of prison for battering his second wife: Antigays say he may be left free to exercise his constitutional right to marry Woman A, OR Woman B, and divorce and marry others as often as …See More

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  • Michael L. Maurer ·  Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

    Mark Chapter 10 Jesus said:{“6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”}

    As for me I’ll trust the words of Christ about the marriage matter. Does that make me a bigot?

    So called “marriage equality”. Equality is the state of being equal. Two men or two women are not equal to one man and one woman. In traditional marriage a husband and wife have distinct special roles in marriage and as parents. Two men cannot re-produce. Two women cannot re-produce. Legalizing gay marriage does not make it equal with traditional marriage. Its much different and unnatural compared to traditional marriage. If you put a sign on a Kia and call it a Rolls Royce its still a Kia.

    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      So when are you going to hop on board the “deny marriage to infertile couples” movement, you genius, you?
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Michael I am in awe. You are a visionary….. Two men cannot reproduce, two women cannot reproduce. You are obviously a superior product of a man and woman…….I rest my case.
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    • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

      MEANWHILE, The TRULY decent, equality-minded citizens of our country, only need to consider the following marriages and what it means for them to be equal or unequal in the eyes of the Law:Is a marriage between high school sweethearts “the same” as one between two Vegas drunks who hit it off one night in a bar?

      Between a soldier at war and a civilian at home, versus a death row inmate and a spouse who is in another jail cell for petty theft?

      Are they “the same”?

      Is a 1st marriage “the same” as a 5th “marriage” or a 3rd “marriage”?

      How about a Kardashian “marriage” of a few dozen hours, versus the marriage of a gay couple together for 40 years before marrying in Mass. when marriage equality was finally recognized there…?

      Are these “the same”…?

      And how does Richard (The LA Nighstalker on death row) Ramirez, …See More

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    • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

      MEANWHILE, The TRULY decent, equality-minded citizens of our country, only need to consider the following marriages and what it means for them to be equal or unequal in the eyes of the Law:Is a marriage between high school sweethearts “the same” as one between two Vegas drunks who hit it off one night in a bar?

      Between a soldier at war and a civilian at home, versus a death row inmate and a spouse who is in another jail cell for petty theft?

      Are they “the same”?

      Is a 1st marriage “the same” as a 5th “marriage” or a 3rd “marriage”?

      How about a Kardashian “marriage” of a few dozen hours, versus the marriage of a gay couple together for 40 years before marrying in Mass. when marriage equality was finally recognized there…?

      Are these “the same”…?

      And how does Richard (The LA Nighstalker on death row) Ramirez, …See More

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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Theo McKinney What is wrong with you? I support the Gay movement. I was being cynical to Michael Maurer’s comments. He is always on a superior high horse. Get off my back and get your facts straight. Get spell check and literate while your at it. Ignorance is not cool, ADJUST. IT”S TIME.
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  • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

    It’s looking very likely. If it doesn’t happen this year, it will happen within the next two years, tops. Momentum is on the side of equality, and with every day that passes, more bigots age out and die, only to be replaced by fresh, new voters with decent hearts and functioning brains. Equality cannot be stopped, only delayed. It’s entirely possible, maybe even probable, that this issue won’t make it to the ballot at all. The courts may intervene before then and deliver a sound, constitutional ruling that makes a ballot initiative moot.
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    • Pastor Donnie L. Moss ·  Top Commenter · Chaplain at Chaplain Ashland City Police Department

      Just because we disagree does not make us bigots. We just disagree. I believe, as a Christian what the Bible says, marriage is between a man and a women. I stick by that. I do not hate a I just disagree. Unfortunately most think that disagreeing makes us evil. No we just disagree with what you believe. When I die, my son and daughter will still be here and they will disagree with you also. If we want equality then the people wanting more than one wife should be able to marry many. If I want to marry a dog, it is my freedom correct. If they call it marriage they are totally changing the definition of marriage.
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss I never said disagreeing with the concept that everyone deserves equal rights under the ruling document of our secular government, the United States Constitution, makes one a bigot. It does, of course, but not the type of bigot that I have any interest in. The bigots I enjoy battling are the ones who see a voting booth and start glowing with anti-American self-righteousness. Civil rights are not to be voted on, period; that’s a fundamental precept of this nation. They’re called rights because they are not supposed to be subject to the whims of the misguided majority.You, though, are a bigot in every sense of the word. You betrayed yourself when you compared loving relationships between two consenting adults to someone wanting to marry a dog. Who is the dog in your relationship, if you are in one? You or your significant other?

      If a person chooses to follow a bigoted religious variant, that’s fine. We are all free to choose whichever religion most appeals to us, even if it only appeals to our darkest, most malevolent impulses, like those who would use it to justify oppression. We are not free, however, to impose our chosen religion on those who would not willingly choose it for themselves. The rules of your chosen religion are for you and apply to you, period. No one else is obligated to subscribe, and many, many religions do not. So whose freedom of religion trumps whose? The hater’s or the hated’s?

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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss Marrying a dog, and speaking for your son and daughter as well! The grape kool-aid flows…………. Why on earth would anybody think your rationale here is evil?
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    • Pastor Donnie L. Moss ·  Top Commenter · Chaplain at Chaplain Ashland City Police Department

      Pattie Thomas If you want I can have them comment, they are 20 and 28 years old and agree with me. I know that for sure. The dog comment comes because if we give same sex marriage then where does it stop. I do not care if 2 of the same sex live together and do whatever( even though I disagree with that lifestyle) . I just do not want it called marriage. That would redefine what marriage is and always has been. If you want to call it something different go ahead. And the purple Kool-aid comment is way out of line. I am not in that category or shown to be in that category. I have not called them evil or bad names. Here is a case that we do not agree and you have to basically call me a murderer because that is what that refers to. But I can take it been called worse for doing less.
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss I didn’t call you anything…..I made reference to brainwashing. Just because you started off with some ignoramus speech is no need to attempt blame shifting. The drama diversion doesn’t work. So you don’t want it called marriage? Why didn’t you just say that? Your the one who referenced having a small army behind you then went on to dog marriage.
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss Well, when marriage equality happens, it will stop at allowing two consenting, human adults to marry one another, obviously. It’s an exceedingly rare breed of dog that is talented enough to sign a marriage license and say “I do.” You’re drawing a false equivalency, and it’s not doing you or your side any favors.As to the whole “call it something else” idea, that’s not acceptable or feasible. It’s already been tried in several states already, and everywhere it has met with challenges, it has been ruled against in favor of marriage. We do not endorse the concept of “separate but equal” in this country, haven’t since the 1960s, when that was ruled unconstitutional. Even if it were a morally acceptable option, it wouldn’t be practical in the real world, as it would require the rewriting of legal and tax …See More

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    • Pastor Donnie L. Moss ·  Top Commenter · Chaplain at Chaplain Ashland City Police Department

      Michael Vernon Hunt
      The laws and freedoms of this country were based mostly from the Words in the Bible. If you research your history you will find that out. Pastors were great leaders during the Revolutionary War and were targeted by the British. Separation of Church and State was put in place so #1 the country would not have a national church. And to keep the Government out of Church business. Not to quench the voices of Christians. As I said to another commentator, I do not care if they live together. Just do not call it marriage because it would change the definition. Give it another name. Marriage is between a man and women. One other commentator kind of spouted off. I can understand her frustration. A GAY football or basketball player a hero. Why! He is a gay player. He is not so special. How about the people serving in our military. Those are heroes, but you do not see all of them on the news. Why? I do not know. This is all we hear about and their rights. But if you disagree, you are attacked and sometimes fired from your job. So freedom of speech is target selective. Freedom of speech only applies if you agree with the liberal view (which is usually the minority). Also people should make the laws which we follow, that is what the country is based on. I could go on and on but I am out of time. I will try to send you a message another time. Be blessed and have a good night.
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss Yes, I am sure you could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on but you wouldn’t be any closer to correct.This nation was not founded on Christianity, any version out of the 2000+ flavors, nor was the bible any inspiration for our legal system. That’s an asinine and uneducated assertion. The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, states directly that the United States is in no way founded upon the Christian religion. Furthermore, Thomas Jefferson, the man behind most of the words in our founding documents, was very public about his distaste for religion in general, and Christianity specifically, even going so far as …See More

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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss Also, paragraphs are awesome. You should try them some time.
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    • Pastor Donnie L. Moss ·  Top Commenter · Chaplain at Chaplain Ashland City Police Department

      Michael Vernon Hunt Now that is funny
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss I’m a laugh riot, I know.
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    • Pastor Donnie L. Moss ·  Top Commenter · Chaplain at Chaplain Ashland City Police Department

      Michael Vernon Hunt You need to reexamine history. You have been given a one sided view. You are totally incorrect in that you think the Bible did not influence this country and the true reasons for separation of church and state. You are also a better typist than me. But that does not mean you have more knowledge. This is an area I encourage you to study both side of the history of our country. I think you may be surprised at what you find. And I have to stop although it is fun commenting back and forth.
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss The only surprise I would find would be that anyone believes the false historical narrative which you embrace because it props up your faulty theology. If anything influenced our nation’s legal system, it was the Code of Hammurabi, which predates Christianity by several centuries and was actually an influence on the latter. You don’t get to make up new “facts” just because you don’t like the true ones. Try harder. Read more.
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    • Pastor Donnie L. Moss ·  Top Commenter · Chaplain at Chaplain Ashland City Police Department

      Pattie Thomas You have to understand drinking the KOOL Aide to a Pastor refers to Jim Jones and all the people he killed with poison years ago by putting it in some kool aid. That is not nice and yes I look at that as me being a killer, which I am not. And I am saying how we should not change what marriage means to fit someone thinking. That is example I am trying to make. Just like Polygamy do you think that should be ok. Marrying as many as you want. It should be there choice. Just change the law because they want it. It does not matter what the majority of people think. The dog comment is an extreme of the same notion. Change the law to fit people as they see fit.
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss Polygamy was legal, for a long time, and was often spoken of favorably within the pages of the bible. At one time, women were considered to be property, with marriage being a business transaction between the groom and her father. We changed that. At one time, marriage between different races was illegal. We changed that, too. Marriage has been changing since the day it was invented. Which version would you like society to roll back to?
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss The kool-aid joke has been referred to brainwashing too. I do not have to understand your “dog” on point of view. Thanks anyways.
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    • Theo McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Works at Demand Equality

      Pastor Donnie L. Moss :MEANWHILE, The TRULY decent, equality-minded citizens of our country, only need to consider the following marriages and what it means for them to be equal or unequal in the eyes of the Law:

      Is a marriage between high school sweethearts “the same” as one between two Vegas drunks who hit it off one night in a bar?

      Between a soldier at war and a civilian at home, versus a death row inmate and a spouse who is in another jail cell for petty theft?

      Are they “the same”?

      Is a 1st marriage “the same” as a 5th “marriage” or a 3rd “marriage”?

      How about a Kardashian “marriage” of a few dozen hours, versus the marriage of a gay couple together for 40 years before marrying in Mass. when marriage equality was finally recognized there…?

      Are these “the same”…? …See More

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  • Peggy Goldberg ·  Top Commenter · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company

    No but maybe vacuum cleaner hose types will make a come back until they can find a way to weasel their immoral behaviors on unwilling MAINSTREAM society that doesn’t have MENTAL issues.
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Speaking of mental issues……
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      I’m confused. Are you saying you’re attracted to home appliances? I’m pretty sure there isn’t a law against that.
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  • Brett Gehrisch ·  Top Commenter · Bellville, Ohio

    Religion isn’t the law. Change is in progress and this country will benefit. Too many grumpy people not enjoying life in this area.
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  • Jennifer Arnold Baker ·  Top Commenter · Crestline, Ohio

    Just sick of hearing about so called gay rights. What about straight rights? We as normal straight people can not say anything about this issue without being called bigots, Bible thumpers and being told we are voicing hate crimes. The gay community is causing more noise and uprising in America, and the normal straight people do not cause problems. Just stop it! Go ahead comment, I don’t ever come back to see replies to my comments anyway, so I won’t see comments to my freedom of speech.
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    • Peggy Goldberg ·  Top Commenter · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company

      One way to stop putting up with it, don’t hire them, rent to them or acknowledge they exist, Iam sure there is a deserted radioactive island somewhere they can be herded off to, keep the diseases and behaviors out of the mainstream. Wait till this opens the door to aniamls and humans marrying, necrophilia being accepted as its their rights…yup ity don’t stop.
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Peggy Goldberg You have nothing to worry about. Man nor animal nor Straight nor Gay will come knocking on your door…….
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      So like a bigot, to take a dump in the middle of the sidewalk and just leave it there. It must really suck to know that your crusty, withered worldview is closer to death with each passing day. A shame. If you were with the good guys, you’d be all smiles right now.
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    • Kelly Meowtown Malinski · Clarion University of Pennsylvania

      You must know nothing about history or society if you’re afraid that there’s no such thing as “straight rights.” Get a grip, Jennifer.
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  • Mervin Mosier · Kent State University

    the bible say man and women it dosent say tinker bell and tinker bell
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Are you God? Can you cast the first stone? You sir are judgmental with a hardened heart……
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    • Brett Gehrisch ·  Top Commenter · Bellville, Ohio

      The bible isn’t the United States Constitution now is it?
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Brett Gehrisch It is a means of convenient righteousness for some as they live by just some of it…….
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    • Brett Gehrisch ·  Top Commenter · Bellville, Ohio

      I could not agree more. I would like to watch a reality show where people had to live 100% completely under scripture. That would open some eyes.
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    • Peggy Goldberg ·  Top Commenter · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company

      we don’t live much by the constitution as it is, changing it for immorals,,,wont happen.
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    • Pattie Thomas · Follow ·  Top Commenter

      Brett Gehrisch Don’t get me wrong, I have my beliefs in God and in His word. I just have issue with those that spew bits and pieces, being hateful while assuming righteousness. You have to laugh though, straight rights? The normal straight people do not cause problems? Tinker Bell? So all of the current worldly problems, uprisings have all been caused by Gay persons? Wow how profound……..
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    • Michael Vernon Hunt ·  Top Commenter

      Yes, the bible does say “man and women.” Many, many women. And concubines.
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  • Christopher Weaver · Works at A bank

    Wow Denny knapp, put the bong down and start taking a literacy class. Gay marriage IS coming to Ohio and this nation. I’m willing to wait a little
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