Mayer “had not been himself” – This County hasn’t been itself, where have you been?

Mayer ‘had not been himself’

Of coarse James Mayer hasn’t been himself, he’s been fighting an Executive Branch takeover which was going to lead to his character being assassinated. He didn’t kill himself over an imminent lawsuit? Nobody yet has said they saw him do it, NOBODY! If this is the case then there must be an affidavit that depicts this (public record) and there is none? His wife still sits in the hospital?, we don’t know this yet either! I would say something strange is going on, and it’s going on right under our noses. Much of this started when a body was dumped on Hull Rd and the first witness to this takeover committing suicide as well. These DEATHS are simply Mafia cover ups, yet James Mayer was feeling the pressure of not another lawsuit, but the fact he was no longer going to represent this crap! You want answers? – Find out WHY Mr Yosowitz was hired by the Executive branch NUMEROUS times going back as far as a several years, so even IF Mr Mayer has been a mess, this is WHY? Read below for MORE questions that need answered! Why was Bambi Couch Page expedited to this position, what was the URGENCY? This office has not been urgent to do anything for years, so why now? Is there a clause in which a Prosecutor position can be filled before 40 days is up?, I can’t seem to see this in the statute, for those not knowing what a statute is, it’s the LAW!!!!! – A copy below for you to chew on and comment at will. 

Mayer, 65, shot himself Friday at his Dickson Parkway home. The Richland County Coroner’s Office has ruled the shooting a suicide.

“He had not been himself,” Couch Page said. “We tried to get him to talk to us, but he said he was fine.”

Couch Page, who was appointed interim prosecutor Monday by county commissioners, said she doesn’t know why Mayer took his life.

“I never saw this as an option,” she said. “There was a possible medical issue because of different things I was seeing, but I can’t confirm that.”

Mansfield police were called to Mayer’s home Friday evening. Upon arrival, a responding officer heard one gunshot, according to a news release.

Detectives closed the case after the shooting was ruled a suicide.

Mayer was elected prosecutor in 1988 and had held the office ever since. He and wife Melody Ann had three children.

Monday’s special meeting of the county commissioners was a somber affair.

Couch Page and Kochheiser attended, sharing hugs with commissioners and others who were there.

“This is one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my life,” a tearful Couch Page told commissioners. “Based on the circumstances, I am still in shock. I can’t express my feelings of loss.”

Couch Page’s appointment was made retroactive to Friday. She had been the first assistant since February.

Richland County prosecutor called a friend by many

“I feel the board has complete confidence in Bambi,” Commissioner Ed Olson said. “She has a wealth of legal experience and trial education. All three of us have confidence that Bambi will serve with distinction.”

Couch Page, 58, is a New Washington native and Buckeye Central High School graduate. She received a degree in secondary education from The Ohio State University in 1979 and earned her law degree from Ohio Northern in 1982.

For the last 14 years, Couch Page worked for Mayer. She had spent time at the law director’s office before that. Her appointment was made retroactive to Friday.

The Democratic Central Committee will appoint someone to fill the rest of Mayer’s term. He would have been up for re-election in 2016.

Committee Chairman Matt Finfgeld said a meeting to select his full-time successor has tentatively been scheduled for Oct. 9.

While expressing confidence in Couch Page, county commissioners said they appreciated working with Mayer.

“He was a very empathetic individual,” Olson said. “He understood other people’s problems.”

Olson said Mayer wasn’t political when it came to hiring staff members.

Commissioner Gary Utt called Mayer a “very down-to-earth person.”

Commissioner Tim Wert added, “He worked with us through the economic downturn. I admired him.”

Couch Page said Mayer wanted what was best for everyone, regardless of party affiliation. She pledged to do the same.

The interim prosecutor said she met with staff prior to meeting with commissioners. Grief counselors will be made available.

“Whatever it takes to get through this,” Couch Page said.

Olson ordered flags at all county buildings to fly at half-staff until Mayer’s funeral, which had not been set as of Monday afternoon.

mcaudill@gannett.com

419-521-7219

Twitter: @MNJCaudill

 Funny thing, my comment on the MNJ did not post?, some things NEVER change, WHY else would I write a blog?????

305.02 Vacancy in county offices filled by election or appointment.

(A) If a vacancy in the office of county commissioner, prosecuting attorney, county auditor, county treasurer, clerk of the court of common pleas, sheriff, county recorder, county engineer, or coroner occurs more than forty days before the next general election for state and county officers, a successor shall be elected at such election for the unexpired term unless such term expires within one year immediately following the date of such general election.

In either event, the vacancy shall be filled as provided in this section and the appointee shall hold office until a successor is elected and qualified.

(B) If a vacancy occurs from any cause in any of the offices named in division (A) of this section, the county central committee of the political party with which the last occupant of the office was affiliated shall appoint a person to hold the office and to perform the duties thereof until a successor is elected and has qualified, except that if such vacancy occurs because of the death, resignation, or inability to take the office of an officer-elect whose term has not yet begun, an appointment to take such office at the beginning of the term shall be made by the central committee of the political party with which such officer-elect was affiliated. – I don’t believe Mr.Ed IS that committee, please reference last Election for who the committee is? I think we should clarify this to the public, don’t you? 

(C) Not less than five nor more than forty-five days after a vacancy occurs, the county central committee shall meet for the purpose of making an appointment under this section. Not less than four days before the date of such meeting the chairperson or secretary of such central committee shall send by first class mail to every member of such central committee a written notice which shall state the time and place of such meeting and the purpose thereof. A majority of the members of the central committee present at such meeting may make the appointment.

(D) If the last occupant of the office or the officer-elect was elected as an independent candidate, the board of county commissioners shall make such appointment at the time when the vacancy occurs, except where the vacancy is in the office of county commissioner, in which case the prosecuting attorney and the remaining commissioners or a majority of them shall make the appointment.

(E) Appointments made under this section shall be certified by the appointing county central committee or by the board of county commissioners to the county board of elections and to the secretary of state, and the persons so appointed and certified shall be entitled to all remuneration provided by law for the offices to which they are appointed.

(F) The board of county commissioners may appoint a person to hold any of the offices named in division (A) of this section as an acting officer and to perform the duties thereof between the occurrence of the vacancy and the time when the officer appointed by the central committee qualifies and takes the office.

(G) A person appointed prosecuting attorney or assistant prosecuting attorney shall give bond and take the oath of office prescribed by section 309.03 of the Revised Code for the prosecuting attorney.

Amended by 130th General Assembly File No. 3, SB 47, §1, eff. 6/21/2013.

Amended by 129th General AssemblyFile No.105, SB 295, §1, eff. 8/15/2012.

Amended by 129th General AssemblyFile No.40, HB 194, §3 Made subject to referendum in the Nov. 6, 2012 election. The version of this section thus amended was repealed by 129th General AssemblyFile No.105, SB 295, §1, eff. 8/15/2012.

Amended by 128th General AssemblyFile No.29, HB 48, §1, eff. 7/2/2010.

Effective Date: 06-21-1990

 

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Zehner and Naumoff (DOWTOWN MANSFIELD) – Drew Tyler, do you really want to open a can at Election Time?

Response to the Village Idiot on Craigslist, and please do send this to my employer like you have everything else! When what I do has NOTHING to do with being one of their better sales associates, IF not the BEST you will see who’s ROTFLMAO???? – I work for one of the LAST employers, INDEPENDENT by the way that we have left in this Community! If and when you do succeed at trying to shut it down WILL NOT STOP my cause if I become unemployed from this the irony will be who will then fund it? Now that’s ROTFLMAO because I have lots of friends, and know full well how to BEAT YOU PEOPLE at your own game. The latest boycott called for on WMFD site is quite laughable that one in an economically oppressed region would have an INDEPENDENT that gives you the BEST low price guarantee closed??? That would mean you’re WILLING to pay more for your products when they are gone? Be careful what you wish for, it’s coming???? – Not! How ever there’s a list being made who will – hmmm?

***The post that started it all, I wonder if the one who initiated it would also stand up and laugh with me????

Zehner and Naumoff (DOWTOWN MANSFIELD)

Donald Zehner is supporting Phil Naumoff for Judge. That translates into Naumoff being corrupt and crooked as hell. Why are  https://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/the dirty cops/deputies supporting this man??? HMMMMM?? The word downtown is, if elected, Naumoff is willing to make shady deals behind closed doors. Come on Mansfield, wake up!

JUSTICE FOR BRIAN GARBER!                                              

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***Lets just say since I did not write this initial post THEY don’t know crap, do they original poster? – lol! Is this the BEST we can get out of someone we know for a FACT can’t be in Law Enforcement if they think this is the guy is me? Come on people, there’s a reason this so-called successful business person posts anonymously here, some of you would be SHOCKED!!!! – Just like you were when James Mayer supposedly committed suicide, which for the record I don’t believe for one minute! We have here what some would like you to believe is a CONspiracy theorist in the name of National Security it’s a secret that none of you will ever know what’s going on here. It’s a DRUG game people, and the ONLY WAY to stop it is to educate the public who’s dependent on them – PERIOD!
IF you want or need help with these matters there’s a group giving insight on how to get it on facebook, join us…we will gladly help you and you can remain anonymous until you feel secure enough to be who you are. We are assembling for the FINAL WAR against corruption, join us HERE IF you had enough!!! -
https://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/
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re: Zehner and Naumoff (DOWTOWN MANSFIELD)

Another post from a moron. You think because people support Naumoff that might be of questionable character that it means that Naumoff will be corrupt? What about all of those who support him which haven’t been in the papers? You claim “the word downtown” is where you get your insight, and my guess is the last time you were “downtown” was when you got out of jail or went to one of the social service agencies to raid their food pantry. It isn’t hard to figure out the author of this post so get your dumb, bald ass back over there and start slinging them washing machines.
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 ***The narcissistic sociopath speaks again!, can it be my old nemesis Drew Tyler who’s went underground? This sounds about right knowing the inaccuracies of my life’s accounts, none of which are true, not even the last statement – I sell washing machines, for the most part to the down trodden and why commissions are down, these people (who work for us) posting here are doing so for good reason? I don’t have yo hide behind a keyboard and have yes promised my employer not to post on craigslist, how ever what they hate is my blogsite and Mansfielders Perspective Group on facebook where we out these clowns. Call on my employer some more, I can’t wait until you get what you want being what you want has NOTHING to do with my work, after all like you think I’m jealous of a Government Whore who hides behind a keyboard, right? Now that’s ROTFLMAO!!!!!  –   I hope for the DAY those good cops or investigators will once and for all say enough of your crap and they hunt you down, they and everyone else knows where to find me, maybe it’s time to find you since they are BLAMING our group for all that’s wrong when in reality it’s YOU! – The hide behind keyboard man, or shall I say woman?
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RE re: Zehner and Naumoff (DOWTOWN MANSFIELD)

***Yes, you’re NOT a questionable character is WHY you write on craigslist like the pusillanimous that you are. FUCK NAUMHOFF & ROBINSON – I’m not voting for either crook!

Justice for Brian Garber will come when everyone of you hide behind keyboards are taken out!
The question is…Why is crooked Lydia Reed & Phil Messer lobbying for Naumhoff? Part of the German Warplane gang? Yes, the target of Corruption is in the County building as the bald guy said you are so afraid to harass in person – lol!

Get back to your x-ray machine the paper said was reserved for retired Deputy’s. I thought your Prosecutor brother told you to stay off of here, it’s an ELECTION year!

Sir/Madam hides a lot who thinks they know who’s posting leaves us ALL ROTFLMAO!
Another post from a moron. You think because people support Naumoff that might be of questionable character that it means that Naumoff will be corrupt? What about all of those who support him which haven’t been in the papers? You claim “the word downtown” is where you get your insight, and my guess is the last time you were “downtown” was when you got out of jail or went to one of the social service agencies to raid their food pantry. It isn’t hard to figure out the author of this post so get your dumb, bald ass back over there and start slinging them washing machines.
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers
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re: RE re: Zehner and Naumoff (DOWTOWN MANSFIELD)

Hey ole Philly, did I strike a nerve someplace bwhahahahahahahah. Yeah I think I did and it is pretty obvious. It is so hard to believe after all these years you still have a hard-on for the Mayer family. But then again, after being stuck in your dead end job slinging washing machines and working your little commission paying job, it is easy to see that your simply jealous of anyone who is better than you, which is just about everyone. You claim posting on CL makes someone a coward well what then does that say about you? You post here ALL THE TIME. Even though you don’t have the balls to use your real name because your bosses will fire your sorry ass, anyone who has ever read anything your little pea mind has written knows it you. Glad to see it is still sooooo easy to get your panties in a twist. You better go, I think I hear your ole lady beckoning you for another bottle of liquor. Yepper, you leave me ROTFLMFAO over and over and over again. (PS still waiting on the FBI, BCI, RCSO, Santa Clause and everyone else you called to get in touch with me.)
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Don’t you worry don’t you fear, the hide behind keyboard will soon be here? Never ceases to amaze me how this village idiot don’t have the balls to join my group and tell it like it is under a REAL name while saying here as I ROTFL at their dumb ass thinking I’m the one who started Zehner and Naumoff? Do you really think I’m the ONLY ONE who REALIZES the corruption here? Keep running your mouth, by the way I see it the end is near that your buddy offed himself, or did he?
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 What makes the hide behind keyboard ranter so mad, as you will see here….Do I need to say more????
https://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/
http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/
http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/wallofshame.html
http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/questionpolitics.html
Legend *** indicates Phil Sydnor thoughts – (smile)
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The AP Report on James Mayer goes to show you how stupid they think people are!

Richland County Prosecutor who kills himself was being sued by former inmate, AP reports

Come on, this is not James Mayers first rodeo with being sued by an inmate or otherwise, what makes this one any different? I have heard there’s a couple in prison who were going to pay him back for what he’s done to them when they get out, but to say he took his life over a LAWSUIT is quite laughable when we know how they collude against ANY Prosecution. Remember Drew Tyler saying you have to PROVE IT? What’s Drew Tyler going to say about this? This is the proof, or is it now be another questionable cover up for the people to now seek Justice since we know his counterpart won’t?

We now have Robinson as Judge from within his camp of deception and lies, now we have Banbi Couch I will not Prosecute my friends Page for we are birds of a feather!

What should we see as this moves forward? We should see how our Commissioners respond, after all THEY are the real reason for this happening, not some inmate filing a lawsuit, he’s just one of MANY still hanging on the books. This Executive Branch takeover is something the People of Richland County needs to pay close ATTENTION to for we have 2 more looking for office who both know how it works, they are seasoned Veterans of Collusion of you will. I can guarantee you IF James Mayer and MANY can get past a Federal Racketeering case they could have surely got past this case against his little bother, then they could have got past this? -or- is it that this one particularly the one that’s going to break the camels back?

Only time will tell as the Community on Facebook continues to grow and fight this corruption if we see this is the case. Surely there are MANY questions that need to be answered that led up to this, just the beginning of cover ups when they want you to believe this is isolated when there’s so much more they are NOT talking about?

I’m talking about a body dumped on Hull Rd, a girl who supposedly shot herself in the face just a week prior to being indicted on her part in the body dumping and the shooting of an unarmed man in his parents home in which we are STILL WAITING for a case to be filed after 6 months!!!!! Sure there’s been a lot of crime here as of late as their system unravels through cover ups and injustices here, and some want to blame the expose of Mansfielders Perspective for this?, come on! – Take some responsibility Commissioners, everything WRONG is your fault, not mine or this group created to refute this kind of BS! UNLESS you have an  eyewitness to James taking his life, I’m not buying it! – He’s such a nice guy they say????, then I say it’s hard to know a narcissistic sociopath meaning who do you trust? God is a good start, not this mans close bud Judge DeWeese, as you see they are setting up this regime for years to come so IF you want to fix this we need a COMPLETE OVER HAUL before their next victim is you!

Wake up people, this is nothing NEW here. James handing us his head was waaaaay to easy, this is not over by a long shot. The people in power here don’t play games, yet blaming his death on a lawsuit id quite laughable in my opinion, or perspective?

Join us here if you have had enough, surely there will be more of the same if the people don’t take this serious!

This is the SHOCKER the Nation needed, now lets see what else comes from this. I find it hard to believe ONE MAN can collude ALL BY HIMSELF – DON’T BE FOOLED PEOPLE!!! – THE WALL OF SHAME WOULD NOT EXIST UNLESS THIS MAN WAS A LONE WOLF AND THIS BEING ISOLATED!

I want to know one of two things, IS THERE A WITNESS WHO SAW HIM, and is is TRUE his wife died from a heart attack from this? I’m skeptical and curious where Sheldons Raiders were when this happened? They are known to have ties to a lot of crimes that have been going on here as of late, ALL of which have ties to the drugs and thefts that are tearing up our communities.

I am hoping IF anything comes from this the community comes to realize some of us find it hard to believe he killed himself. I will be the first to say he was MURDERED knowing he’s gotten away with more than just a man who wrongfully spent 20 years in Prison, that’s what they have CORSA for, right?

There’s a COVER UP people, we lobbied for answers for Brian Garber, now we must do the same for James Mayer. Just saying, got a problem with this?, here’s you place to leave your complaint in writing unlike the ones that DON’T EXIST in the Clerks Office.

This is not isolated, more here!

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Did Prosecutor James Mayer & Commissioners of Richland County Ohio just pull a fast one?

The Mansfielders Perspective group has questions, can any of them who attended this PRIVATE MEETING advise once again in public what was discussed in PRIVATE?

This little Debate on facebook started with this!  Can anyone share whether or not legally this session can be called by our Prosecutor, the LAW says no – read on…

The Prosecutor’s office called an has added to the agenda an executive session to discuss imminent court action with the Commissioners on Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at 9:30 a.m.Stacey L. Crall, Clerk
Board of Commissioners
Richland County, Ohio
419-774-5551

 

Any word on James Mayer’s illegally called Executive Session today that Closed OUR County meeting for the public?

Should we not know what imminent trouble is before our County Executives, besides collusion?

  • Shelli Street likes this.
  • Larry Spence I think the only imminent trouble coming their way is opening eyes.
  • Brian Moore I’d like to know also.
  • Randy Shepherd These members do not care about laws being broken until they break them and oops, gotta pay that crooked lawyer to get me out of this. I called but did not go, Cuz I know the drill, it has happened before and again and again and it will keep on happening in every piece part of this corrupt county government. The citizens do not care only bitch and wait for it to fix itself. No action even to the smallest degree unless it is them whose turn it is in the barrel of corruption.
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  • Phil Sydnor I want at a minimum to know what this was about. Today I asked, yet no straight answers with exception it’s not good for someone. No crap!, but who?
  • Anissa Craft I’m going to venture a guess n say it could possibly have to do with Connie Garber Mayer says he gave the case to a special prosecutor but I’m thinking they took it from him n maybe just maybe the shit is getting ready to hit the fan posability huh circle ur wagons

     

  • Phil Sydnor I think Connie’s case is NOT what they expected. I believe they thought they could simply kill Brian, get Sara paid and game over! How ever, like this racketeering event like the so many Randy has pointed out have caught up to them. Here’s another in the paper yesterday, the only questionable thing about it is Mark Caudill did the report -http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/…/tinney…/16076259/

    Tinney withdrew his guilty plea in murder case, claiming mental illness was a factor
    MANSFIELDNEWSJOURNAL.COM
  • Randy Shepherd Well here is a strange and funny sort of paralell game that I am very familiar with. Y’all my not think it is fraud but I assure you it is by law. Please note the attorney for the defendants is non other then “Andrew Yosowitz”. Who in gods green earth is paying for his services? That is a paramount question that y’all fail to realize. Ultimately you are even though you pay both the county prosecutor and Mike DeWine you have also retained private counsel of Andrew Yosowitz???? I know Andrew he is a lying little snake in the grass from Columbus and he is now lawyer for your prosecutor and Judges again. Oh and by the way he is actually counsel for CORSA the folks who collect your money to “hold” in case this sort of law suit is filed and or won. Let him and that firm defraud y’all again and the judgment however rendered is VOID caus he cannot represent the state of Ohio or Richalnd county cuz he is a private attorney and not an elected/retained/governemnt
    attorney. Whose on first??
  • Randy Shepherd I have posted ORC 309.09 before this is an excerpt from 309.08 to verify by law the prosecutor is our public lawyer and his duty is to seek justice. what you are seeing is very similar to case number 2008cv0294. James mayer/Bret Robinson refused to represent Mr.Ed and Mr. Ed called his buddy Yosowitz to represent Mr.Ed. 309.09 to follow. Please note “shall” means no choice.

    In conjunction with the attorney general, the prosecuting attorney shall prosecute in the supreme court cases arising in the prosecuting attorney’s county, except for those cases required to be prosecuted by a special prosecutor pursuant to section 177.03 of the Revised Code or by the attorney general pursuant to section 109.83 of the Revised Code
  • Phil Sydnor I was told by one of their people yesterday that James Mayer rightfully can call this executive session due to it’s nature and the fact that he’s the one who signs the Commissioner’s checks. I was advised this has to do with who’s paying and what. The bottom line and issue I have is…WE DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW what it’s about, and Randy is right in that regard, it’s off the record without any outside agency knowing what’s going on, At least that’s what we know now???? – NOTHING more than he called this meeting, and we were not allowed in?
  • Randy Shepherd Here is 309.09, Please note the word shall. Oh by the way this tends torawrds the law Mr.Ed says he knows but cannot find. oh yes I asked him point blank produce your law that says our public fund is your provate piggy bank for corruption?
    309.09 Leg
    al adviser – additional legal counsel.
    (A) The prosecuting attorney shall be the legal adviser of the board of county commissioners, board of elections, all other county officers and boards, and all tax-supported public libraries, and any of them may require written opinions or instructions from the prosecuting attorney in matters connected with their official duties. The prosecuting attorney shall prosecute and defend all suits and actions that any such officer, board, or tax-supported public library directs or to which it is a party, and no county officer may employ any other counsel or attorney at the expense of the county, except as provided in section 305.14 of the Revised Code
  • Randy Shepherd Here is the deal. i back my claims wiht our written laws no bullshit an no mispelling. You can refernece tham as easy as I although I am a bit more practiced. so your source “says” the Porsecutor Signs Mr ed’s check. Can ya diorect me to some “Law” that says and provides James Mayer to be County Auditor. I belive he is responsible for all county/public funds?? If you believe propaganda it must be true???
  • Phil Sydnor We don’t know what he wanted to talk about yet, maybe he wanted to tell them he has a conflict of interest in defending them?
  • Phil Sydnor LOL! – This came from one who is running for Commissioner so maybe none of them know the rules – ROTFL!
  • Randy Shepherd The entire point is the “meeting” is a required public meeting (50) per year by law. Of course the public is always invited it our meeting. Now James Mayer or any other person may attend and like other people James Mayer (servant) may bring issues before the comissioners in public forum. If any one of the comissioners moves for “executive session” there must be a vote by the commissioners in public to even hold executive session. Obvioulsy that was not done. Should any one of the comissioners not vote for executive session none shall be had and the regular public meeting resumes.

     

  • Randy Shepherd I only refer to my interpretation of the laws. I am certain they do not know the rules but make them up as needed to cover their asses and the folks say uh huh must be so cuz our servants have told the masters???
  • Randy Shepherd You will never know what was said, cuz executive session (meant for the three commissioners) only is not recorded. Also please note in 3039.09 we demand by law that if the comissioners need and or ask for legal advice it must be in writing not word of mouth in unlawful private session im my building?? Oops we demand by law in writing and that becomes a public record cuz it must be filed. This is separation of powers doctrine..
  • Phil Sydnor Good question for the next meeting, you go, I’ll go because I just have to hear the answer to this for myself
    • Randy Shepherd Next meeting is tomorrow at 9:30. Yall want to know where your tax dollars go. Its to build nioce homes in columbus for Andrew Yosowitz not your schools books streets in Masnfield huh Mr. Ed?
    • Randy Shepherd Where is the paperwork the ifs would rapidly dissapear if thet paerwork/public record was in order. We have none to examine or rely on so we gossip about shoulda woulda coulda huh Mr. Ed??
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One month later Raider training pays off in Murder of Brian Garber, are you next?

 

One would laugh as they JOKE about Sheldon’s Raiders, yet they tout this on their OWN facebook page. How nice they did this training in February and a month later used it NOT on a terrorist as one would think, but on a citizen who was suffering from depression. Interesting if you read how Sergeant James A. Nicholson was trained for subjects with mental illness. One would think his training didn’t pan out since his counter part went in guns a blazing emptying his clip on the subject without interaction – WOW!!!!

Richland County Sheriff's Office February 3 RAIDER TRAINING. Sergeant Will Gordon is in the middle wearing a blue and gray coat among other local law enforcement officers.

Richland County Sheriff’s Office
February 3
RAIDER TRAINING. Sergeant Will Gordon is in the middle wearing a blue and gray coat among other local law enforcement officers.

Note to self: Trained by Military to protect American Citizens, and “is trained in Crisis Intervention in dealing subjects displaying signs of Mental Illness” – REALLY???? – Due to his extensive training and being part of the MURDER upon the Garber family it is PROVEN dealing with subjects displaying a mental illness is a DEATH SENTENCE?

Richland County Sheriff’s Office
January 2
I am pleased to announce the promotion of James A. Nicholson to the rank of Sergeant today. He is married and has (3) children. Jimmy is a 1990 graduate of Mansfield Senior High School. He graduated from the Police Academy in 1993 from North Central Technical College class #93-026. In 1994 he was hired by the Richland County Sheriff’s Office as a Correction’s Officer. Jimmy was appointed a Deputy Sheriff in 1995. In 1996 he was part of the Honor and Color Guard for the department. Sergeant Nicholson became a member of S.W.A.T. (A.S.O.R.T.) in 1999.
Jimmy Nicholson has an extensive military background where he entered the Army on September 6, 1991 in the 135th Military Police Combat Support. He had 3 years and 9 months of active duty. He has over 20 years of service where he was trained in several military and leadership courses. While in the military, Jimmy earned the rank as 1SG (First Sergeant) Jimmy received over 25 decorations, awards and citations including a Bronze star. Jimmy held several leadership positions while serving in Iraq.
Nicholson is a member of the Fraternal Order of Police, American Legion Post #535 and the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post #9943.
Jimmy is a very well trained officer with specialties as a rifle sniper, firearms instructor as well as being a qualified armorer for the pistols and rifles carried by our deputies. He’s versatile in his training as he is a Clandestine Laboratory Safety Officer, Instructional Skills Instructor and is trained in Crisis Intervention in dealing subjects displaying signs of Mental Illness. He has also been trained in Incident Response to Terrorist Bombing.

As you can see, with all the training and experience Jimmy has had in his military and law enforcement careers, were getting the complete package that anyone could ask for as a Sergeant on the streets protecting the citizens of Richland County and a representative of the Richland County Sheriff’s Office. I appreciate Jimmy’s service to our country as well as his dedication to the Sheriff’s Office.

 

Now after this Murder they are planning for phase II – Civil unrest – hmmmm?

Still waiting on Justice for Brian Garber, come on Cuyahoga County Prosecuter???? We ALL know here what happened, and now so do you! Let’s get on with this TRIAL for there will be no deals!!!! Either YOU FILE the INDICTMENTS or WE THE PEOPLE WILL!!!!        

Which will it be???? – JUSTICE FOR BRIAN GARBER 

Sign the Petition HERE! or join MP to find a paper copy of this!

 

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Texas fugitive busted in Bellville – What’s so unusual about this?

Texas fugitive busted in Bellville

A police call to the Quality Inn in Bellville led to the arrest of one of the “Ten Most Wanted” in the state of Texas.”

Why is ANYONE surprised? We have a trade with Texas and many States along the Coast where we trade corrupt/retired cops for fugitives. This is Obama’s idea of “Spreading the Wealth” – None the less hats off to Bellville PD!

Thank God we allowed the BPD Jurisdiction to this area for we know what the RCSD would have done, swept it under the rug and we would have never heard about it. Kind of like what they are doing in the death of Brian Garber and the want to be nameless Student who brought a gun to school who supposedly stole it from his Deputy dad. Appears the Community would be safer looking out for itself, since those who work for us can’t even keep trouble from home from happening?

Wake up people, IF you’re not PISSED, you’re not paying ATTENTION!!!!!

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“Ohio school performance tied to poverty”; I’m not buying it! – MP

Ohio school performance tied to poverty

I call BOLOGNA – Ohio School performance is tied to CORRUPTION & OPPRESSION – Performance is connected to denial of BOTH!

Come on Mansfielder’s WAKE UP! My parents were smart enough to move in the mid 70’s when your troubles began. I have managed thus far working in poverty to have a daughter who’s currently an A/B student at Lex, so don’t give us this poppycock being poor is the problem.

Why am I now in poverty?, I speak up and this is what happens when you do! We too shall overcome when we defeat this kind of poppycock!

Another point, how smart was the kid who’s Deputy dad lives in a $225k home who brought a gun to our school? I especially like how people are saying we must keep this quiet because its a kid? – Where’s the LESSON here people?????, and you wonder why your report card is in the tank?

IF you ask the poor who’s to BLAME you will find most will agree that it’s tied to the poor leadership in this area. The SMALL amount of children here can’t outnumber the number of corrupt and oppressors or we would be able to do something about it, right?

Oh, that’s right! – Mansfield / Richland County don’t have any viable candidates. or those who need BOOTED out run unopposed.

Want to BLAME poor grades on something, blame a lame society of people who want and get something for nothing, now they want better grades for nothing????

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Comments on the MNJ that need responded to in regards to Brian Garber death.

Since I am banned for asking intelligent questions on the MNJ, I will respond to what I have captured on the wide web of facebook comments coming through the MNJ.

Mindy Utz · Top Commenter

Then are you saying his parents and his wife are all liars, Kari? Because they all originally reported that he DID have a gun.
Now supposedly he didn’t. Either someone was lying then or they are lying now.

Come on Mindy, even you know better than to make an irresponsible comment like this, was you there? They actually told me he said he had a gun, and NOBODY saw it! Said he could have, but never ever has he had one. The entire home could have been searched and no gun would have been found, they don’t own ANY! This is as ridiculous as Nicholas Spognardi who came to the Mansfielders Perspective Group and said Brian was waving a gun around in the neighborhood just before this happened and there were many neighbors who witnessed. He was called by Brian’s mother and verified a liar! So be careful who you call a liar, because the ONLY ONE who said they had a gun was having a mental episode sitting quietly in his parents home across the street at the time he was murdered. The situation was under control, the mother and wife were safely across the street and these Deputy’s knew it! 

Philip Williams · Top Commenter

Someone said he was just sitting innocently on his parents bed and the police shot him right away. That doesn’t make sense at all. I won’t believe that one. Not even close. He was an addict, and his family/friends are co-dependents making excuses.

Yes Philip it don’t make sense at all why this many Deputy’s ran up the stairs and in seconds murdered a man in his parents home where the situation was controlled. He had no gun, did not call him out, and people like you defend unloading ones weapon to handled the situation? We just had a situation where a cop in Cleveland can say he justly shot and killed a man where it was known he had a gun and fired it! The officer in this situation gave the man a chance to stand down with gun in hand, stepped back, and when the man didn’t stand down was shot 3 times to his death, NOT 16 times!!!!! This is pure and simple a raged Deputy who needs to pay for snapping while performing his Duty! As a Citizen, and I’m sure I am not alone, if this Deputy were to show at my door will not be welcome, nor will any others knowing this behavior is condoned. I am sure citizens like myself will be weary of what can and may happen, especially when you know their history. Think about that a moment when we say they have a tough job, in MOST cases they make it that way!

Peggy Goldberg · Top Commenter · Ships Captain at Maersk Line Shipping Company

and all the people who defended him, in the last article, whats the excuse now? He was so great, blah, blah blah, guess you think assaulting ones wife more than once is getting ones life in order. Problem solved.

PROBLEM SOLVED is when the MNJ blocks Peggy Goldberg from posting on their site!

Jim Wetzel · Top Commenter · Colorado Technical University

Again I ask how you know he didn’t have a gun? His father said he showed him a gun and he even sent a text saying he had one…so how do you know for sure? I agree that jail time is much better than dead and it sounds like certain family members are the one’s changing their stories or at least the seriousness of it now. Sometimes that “must know” you refer to happens when a gun is actually produced…and I’m sorry, if someone points a gun at a police offer (and I’m not saying he did because I wasn’t there like you apparently were) but a taser is a second option.

I wish I had a dollar for everyone repeating this poppycock! The father NEVER said he saw a gun, the father did say he could have a gun because he said he wouldn’t like what he has under his shirt, get your facts right for the only ones changing their stories are the ones defending these Deputy’s. No gun, and now THEY are saying he had a remote in his hand that looked like a gun, hmmm? Who’s NOW adding defense as we go?

Jim Wetzel · Top Commenter · Colorado Technical University

Keisha Goble seems like you have a lot of answers, or at least your own speculation. How do you know he was not in a position to hurt anyone but himself? If there are others in the room, even if they are police officers, then they are in a position to be hurt by him. If he pulled a gun on the police, that would explain the need to shoot him right? How do you know he didn’t move or say a word to them?

Once again Jimmy Wetzel, why do you continue to speculate, aren’t you a once dirty cop? Please explain your theory for the fact is this young man died right where he sat on the head of the bed where his mother last saw him. When this goes to trial, and it will the Jury will get a chance to see the senseless murder as he never moved from where he was killed. Too bad these Deputy’s touched the evidence for it can be said if you’re a speculator that the object in his hands was not a remote, but the phone in which the last text made was at the time he was murdered. One could say THEY wrote the last message, but since we ALL know they have a code of silence like we are seeing will we ever know? God knows, that’s for sure! I believe I know too, this was unnecessary – period!

Richard Metcalf · Top Commenter

Unfortunately I have not been involved in the investigation like you have since you have all of the facts. All I am saying is if he did not harm anyone, and was such a wonderful person, why were the cops called out there? Plus who told the cops that he had a gun?

To be fair to you sir the only one who could have told Deputy’s were Sara Knowlton who got the message at 8:15pm according to records and the timeline the MNJ shared. 8 minutes later knowing he MAY have a gun and that Sara and the mother was safe there was no reason to go into the parents home across the street, rush up the stairs like hero’s everyone wants us to believe and killed him while his wife was safely on the phone with 911 across the street. Does this make sense to anyone? If it does you are an accessory to murder for THEY were in charge of this man’s DUE PROCESS he never got the chance for. GUILTY OF MURDER?, THEY SURE ARE! They had COMPLETE control of this situation, that’s the bottom line here people are not getting because of just that, speculation of the facts. Let their trial begin!!!!!

Richard Metcalf · Top Commenter

If he was no threat, and didn’t hurt anybody, then why call the Sheriff all of the time? Can you say lawsuit?

There was a call in 2013 made by a passer by where DV charges were made that resulted in case dismissed? Where do you get they were called all the time? There was a call in which they came and left on this day, then came back and escalated by a text that depicted “he too now has a gun” – nobody asking what that meant are they? These Deputy’s are CLEARLY not capable of being effective law enforcement for the Community, I personally want them out of here if not found guilty of murder! This is NOT their first episode of abuse of power and it certainly will not be their last if we give them the chance. These are the kind of vigilantes we need on our border, not here!

Susan Berger

You forgot to quote this part of the article: “During Knowtons 911 call Sunday, she told a dispatcher that Garber had a gun and was at his parents house. Garber also sent several text messages to Knowltons phone saying he had a gun and had shown it to his parents.
Garbers father, Matthew Garber later gave a written statement to the sheriffs office saying his son had shown him a gun through his t-shirt.”

I would like to see this statement you are referring too, I believe you are writing out of context. I talked to the mother who said correctly that he had something under his shirt and said “you won’t like what I have under my shirt” leaving them to speculate he had a gun, in which if these Deputy’s would have done due diligence as they are required to do, they would not be in this pickle! To blame the parents and the wife for repeating one who was depressed is ludicrous!

John Hess · Top Commenter · Crestline, Ohio

Noticed one of the officers that responded has been on leave several times..last time people said he was a ticking time bomb..no matter if he was armed or not ..nothing will happen to any of the officers….that’s.. just the way our injustice system works…especially in richland.

We need to ask ourselves WHY the people in Richland County feel this way, can we blame Martin Yant for “Rotten to the Core”, or is there known abuse many have been put through here? I have been told I will be targeted for speaking out on this and many other corruptions that take place here. Nobody seems to care about the deception that comes out of this Sheriffs office be it the excuse of missing files upon record request blaming that on a copy machine. Then we have a Deputy who’s son had a loaded gun at school in Lexington who was expelled yet the local NEWS does not want to report? What happened to the guy who’s body was dumped on Hull Rd and the girl who was involved in the dump accidentally shooting herself, surely if they look at those here the ties they may find to the many cover ups here. That problem was solved too, huh?

Philip Williams · Top Commenter

People that are victims of domestic violence tend to appease their tormentor. How many times have you heard about domestic violence calls, the police being to arrest the accused, and the victim then attacks the police? Because, when he gets out of jail, she’s gonna ‘get it’ for calling the police in the first place. Also, it’s kind of showing how family/friends help make excuses for an addict. And if he didn’t have a gun, and the wife is saying he threatened her with one (but really didn’t in order to get the police to respond faster), whose fault is this whole mess then? Just some things to ponder.

Maybe you do know more about what’s going on here? Something else to ponder is pre-meditated murder! Funny how the LAST text said something like this! Message at 8:22pm, 8:23pm ambulance called per timeline, hmmm? Could you have known the plan, after all stand me corrected if I’m wrong that you said somewhere else this was a problem solved because the wife couldn’t afford a divorce?

Dale Rhoads · Top Commenter · Fort Worth, Texas

Once you call BCI it’s their crime scene. You go by their protocol. You protect the crime scene. You don’t need anymore people trampling around a crime scene until ALL evidence is gathered and all pictures necessary have been taken.
As far as Sheriff Sheldon, you have the best and most educated Sheriff in the history of this county.

That’s why I question if the Deputy’s in this room touched his cell phone, I believe based on the timeline and text messages that were received most compelling? As far as this Sheriff being the most educated you could say is true!, that’s why he never speaks publicly like all other elected heads in this County, hmmm? Best educated sociopath, maybe??? 

Michael Michalski · Top Commenter · Windstream Communications

People seem to be taking one side or the other here and the facts are screaming that the truth is somewhere in the middle. On one hand, you would think that when someone calls the police/sheriff to report that someone has a gun, they would know that the responding officers are going to be ready for a dangerous situation and be in a defensive posture. You don’t report someone with a gun and then act surprised when the officers pull theirs. On the other hand, you have to wonder why the coroner wasn’t called immediately…and I would be hesitant to accept any excuse on this. There should have been no question or hesitation. Make the call. If you don’t, you are begging to be seen as suspicious and calls of a cover-up are to be expected.

It’s not like we haven’t had our share of law-breaking sheriffs in Richland County. I am not making any accusations here, I am just saying that there is history here and the current sheriff should know that and do all things possible to avoid it. This is a sad, sad case no matter how you look at it and I am afraid that the rest of us will never know the truth. This makes it difficult to trust those who are supposed to protect us. That has to be expected and addressed by those in positions of power.

I have to agree with Michael on this, we have a HUGE issue here with how we are expected to TRUST those who work for us. Sorry, I have been here my entire life and know for a fact THEY have something to hide. Why do you see now how rampant crime is around here, they are certainly up to something that does not make many of us feel very safe. Seems there’s only certain people here the system protects, and its not the good people in this County. IF we don’t stop this now, it’s only going to get worse!

Casey Mosier · Top Commenter

So the Father says he saw a gun, Police are called about a domestic disturbance with a gun involved… the mom and wife say “they don’t think he had a weapon”. And once again we are blaming the police… way to go Mansfield… not a shred of common sense in this town.

When the TRUTH comes out Casey you will be greatly surprised that everything you have read or heard IS the problem. The blame for this senseless murder is the FACTS you are missing. This man was isolated to a room across the street where the 911 call was made in his parents home. These Deputy’s were not authorized to storm this home just because they knew where he was and “thought” he had a gun. This man was fighting depression and to say this will be justified is scary or should be to the citizens of this County! This could happen to ANYONE when someone wants you killed, ALL you have to say is he has a gun. IF anything has no common sense it’s those who believe this is justifiable because their jobs are tough? Hell, Matt Mayer just retired from the Sheriffs department and he said its a safer job than his tree trimming business. The ONLY time we here this excuse is when they want to justify a wrongful death! What about all the raids after this murder where the REAL professionals came to town and raided homes known to have weapons?, not a shot fired. Keep making excuses, there’s a right way, and there’s a wrong way to handle these situations. These ROOKIES CLEARLY HANDLED THIS WRONG, and I hope they pay for it!

Rick Rush · Top Commenter · Works at Ohio DRC

Richland county Sheriffs Department has some of the most highly trained and qualified officers around ! We are fortunate to have Steve Sheldon as our Sheriff ! For some of us we never know what it is like to walk in the shoes of a Law enforcement officer or just how one might respond to a threat of bodily harm. I’am sure Brian Garber was a loving Husband Father Son and I believe that medication can cause serious side effects in someone ! As a community all we can do now is pray for the family during this very difficult time and for the Deputy involved and his family !

Yes, lets pray there’s JUSTICE FOR BRIAN this act by Sheldons raiders was uncalled for and I hope it goes to trial. We can’t allow as citizens for this County to run a muck. To say this Sheriff is one of the BEST is purely by perspective because there are many who think otherwise! I wonder if he will be running unopposed??? – Time for him to go!!!! 

Alyssa Lynn

Strange that all of a sudden this stand-up guy became violent and made threats. Oh wait, this stand-up guy had made threats before, and his own mother left with the children that day because her son was out of control. His wife called and begged for help, reported the guy had a gun, and is shocked when the police arrive to protect her with guns! Let me guess, a lawsuit will be coming shortly….shame on you! Those police risked their lives to protect your family because you called them for help. I hope that this family apologizes to the officers that risked their lives. Just to clarify- I know none of the people involved, but find it strange how the family’s story has changed in the past few days. Perhaps after they sought legal advice?

Surely you too will change your story once you know the facts, a few of these Deputy’s have a history of violence and abuse of power as well. The BEST we can ask for is this is not handled via “plea deal” just so someone can get paid. This needs to go to trial, but then again we don’t have a Judge who will allow all the facts to be entered for now you are saying too those who were there are unbelievable? This is a problem here!!!! Maybe we need to change how folks get paid in wrongful deaths around here and we would have a hell of a lot less pay outs for speculation????? Let the TRIAL commence! If this was you or I we would have to consult an Attorney and enter a plea, why are these guys any different, because they have immunity?

Glenda Branham Rowe · Top Commenter · North Central State College

Just wait for the facts. The lack of common decency and respect in this world disgusts me. As much as I wish people would keep their small-minded opinions to themselves, I know everyone is entitled to their opinions. But let’s not forget there is a family dealing with this unimaginable heartbreak. There is still a father that stood at the bottom of his stairs as his son was killed a few feet away from him. There is still a mother that can hardly function and get through the day because her son was killed in her home. He lost one child and still has two more to go through life without him. Shame on all of you that say he deserved it. I will pray for all of you and hope to God that if you ever have a child that needs someone’s help and it results in the loss of his/her life, that they won’t be met with such unkind words and hatefulness.

What can you say in this senseless killing? I think Glenda just did! – Serve and Protect has many saying what the hell????

Katie Benedict · Works at Wynford

I’m sure to all those people who are posting comments know exactly what it was like living in his shoes. Have you lost a child before? I’m sure if you had, you would also be on depression meds. Secondly, just because someone calls the cops and says “soand so has a gun” does NOT mean they come in ready to shoot. I hope those people who are shameing are going to send a sincere apology for being jerks to a family who has just lost someone. I mean you have surely lost someone close before and know what that’s like right? Lastly, if you knew Brian, which I did, he was one of the nicest guys I know, along with his family.

I too Katie know this family and believe EVERYTHING they have told me. I also believe like everyone else does since the MNJ only reports the facts that a few of these Deputy’s clearly have issues that need to be addressed. If they need a common sense approach I am more than willing to be on a panel of Judges who decides whether or not this goes to trial. From what we know, I say YES!!!!!

Tod Mills · Top Commenter · University of Michigan

“Knowlton and Connie on Tuesday said Garber did not have a gun at the time he was shot and killed.”
“We didn’t know what else to do. We thought the sheriff’s department would help him, not destroy him.”

What a shame. My heart goes out to the family.

This is why, much to the chagrin of bootlickers, I always advise never to call cops to intervene; they almost always make a bad situation worse, with their type A personalities and egos that demand immediate obeisant compliance from troubled people who are almost certainly lost in their own thoughts and emotions, not hearing or thinking clearly. In this case, it sounds like the deputies didn’t even bother to demand that, instead shooting first and asking questions later. Is the philosophy one of, “dead men tell no tales.”? “Trigger-happy shooting spree” comes to mind, along with “Just itching to put all that range practice to use.”

The days of Andy Griffith are long gone and his kind of easy-going de-escalating wisdom has been replaced with body-armor wearing, helmeted and often face-masked jackboots who no longer know the meaning of “peace officer”, instead viewing themselves as warriors and the people they see on the street as enemies.
This is no better exemplified than in the acquisition of surplus military vehicles, usually MRAP’s, by many departments across the country:
http://defense-update.com/20140123_markets_for_mraps.html
and similar vehicles such as the Lenco Bearcat:
http://www.lencoarmor.com/law-enforcement/

There are countless stories with just this sort of needless violent outcome. Here are just a few of the many web pages that document this sort of abuse:
http://www.copblock.org/
http://www.copwatch.org/
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/
http://peacefulstreets.com/

That SSRI’s were involved in the victim’s behavior issues comes as no big surprise, unfortunately. What does every mass murder in the past 20 years have in common? Answer: SSRI’s. http://www.ssristories.org/

Great post Tod Mills, what else can I say except the ignorance in this shows. It’s sad to see those in defense of a senseless death brought on by the ego’s of these so-called super hero’s? If this were the case this would not have ended like this! These men and the protocol they followed needs to go under great scrutiny, this is how things like in Ferguson, MO. get started – Plain and simple Murder that they want to call Suicide by Cops, who’s making up this crap? They had NO REASON to barge in this home when the situation was no longer escalated until THEY made it that way – PERIOD!

Ruth V Schwan · Top Commenter · Owner at Purr-L Harbor and Sand and Sea LLC

Ready to sign for domestic violence packet, tells dispatcher hes got a gun at his parents, went to parents, struck mother, its the meds fault, semseless? Yup sure is. Make threats, who is to say your not a risk….

Plain and simple one who should not be commenting, please take YOUR meds! For the record he actually said “he too now has a gun” – please post responsibly! Who did he need a gun for, was he threatened by someone? This question must be answered before figments are made up. Just saying you must be Cookoo for coco puffs????

Michael Moore · Madison High School

It says on all Police badges “To serve and protect” Not ,shoot first and make excuses later.

Short and sweat fact, how does everyone know this except these Deputy’s. Their training must suck? 

Dale Rhoads · Top Commenter · Fort Worth, Texas

Michael Michalski, Having investigated a crime scene myself, it takes a very long time to do a good job, especially in an investigation such as this. It’s a methodical, very redundant process that takes an extreme amount of patience. Again, you want to restrict access to the scene to keep the integrity of the scene intact. The coroner can only proclaim him dead and has no resource for any investigative work at a crime scene such as this.
Haven’t we all made questionable decisions as far as personnel?

Yes, and it didn’t take your fair best Sheriff ever to say problem solved (8 days) and get these henchmen back to work. Does that make sense to you oh great investigator? I say the Coroner was not called because the Deputy who murdered this man was on a drinking binge the night before and if the Coroner could have been called like he should have by law you would know there’s chance for speculation on a cover up. But no, we give this man time to clean his system because from what I’m told these guys are not to have alcohol for 24 hours prior to duty. Your logic sucks sir, and your leaving my group when we exposed a family member of yours who smokes pot while you do nothing only shows you are full of crap too! Glad you’re in Texas, we don’t tolerate this crap here!

Patricia Weaver

To answer your question, What would I have done differently. Evacuate the house, secure area, call him on cell phone or any kind of contact other than direct. It’s called a ”STAND OFF” To serve and protect, to do so with the least amount of bloodshed or loss of human life. March 24 at 9:57pm

Now there’s some reasoning and logic, something these Deputy’s didn’t have that night. Once could say steroids or alcohol the night before were reason for this? Then again we the people will never know? Just like when the Sheriffs department gave the Prosecutors brother a courtesy it don’t mean it will save their jobs. THEY SHOULD ALL BE FIRED, JUST LIKE THE FIRED APA SUPERVISOR. Then like the FIRED APA SUPERVISOR the County can hire them as security guards in their building of corruption. Then the ad they placed saying they are hiring retired Deputy’s for this work would be accurate???

Joey Shaver

NOT!!! How do you know he had a cell phone?? There was a deputy “securing” the perimeter!!! A stand off??? FAIL again!!! Wait for him to start shooting his family as he threatened?? Shoot the deputies??? Don’t quit your “day” job!!! A “stand off” is for a “planned” situation, not a “frantic” situation where his own mom called the police saying he was hitting her, the wife said he had choked her, the father said he saw a gun, and THE DECEASED sent a death threat!!! How do you know they didn’t try to call his cell phone?? how do you know if they even knew he was in the room he was found in??? Maybe they were just checking the house to see if he had fled AGAIN, as he had already done!!! How do you know whether he tried to shoot, hit or grab the deputies weapon??? Your answers as I expected are shallow and unrealistic, and uninformed epic fail!!! I hope you are not a law enforcement officer, you would likely cause people to get hurt!!! Including your self!!! You are a part of what is wrong with society, do you kn ow that in the past week Three law enforcement officers have been shot and killed, two by “suspicious” subjects?? And that TWO law enforcement dogs have been shot??? Lastly, do you own a gun?? I hope you don”t, because it sounds like you don’t know when it is needed! And if you have an intruder that could be armed in your house, are you going to be mad if a police officer uses his weapon and kills him on your property??? Get a scanner, listen to 911 and respond without ballistics vest and a gun and “secure’ the perimeter”, and see how that works for you!!! Maybe you could send your condolences to the slain officers instead of finding fault and coming up with television police tactics. I have had issues with law enforcement like I have ordinary citizens, and whether some are good, bad or terrible isn’t the issue, the issue is mental health people are not less “dangerous” because they are diagnosed, and violence against your own mother and wife in the form of physical attacks, showing a gun, and sending death threats All end in a bad way, PERIOD!!!

March 25 at 8:09pm

I hate to break the bad news to Joey Shavers, but they had to know he had a cell phone for that’s how they knew he said he had a gun bud! The text if you would have waited for facts would show you would not make a good Detective as you think you are – lol! The text was labeled 8:15pm, surely they knew this before crossing the street because they MURDERED him supposedly just seconds after he sent his last message. My bet is you feel like a COMPLETE MORON when you see my comment to you knowing I have the truth, while you have BS like Nicholas Spognardi was saying he had a gun waving it in the streets because neighbors saw it???? Come on dude, you punks are grasping at straws to justify this. Maybe you will comment here what you know now as facts, will you still backup your poppycock now? He had something in his hand, they say remote? I say cell phone when looking at the timeline and time of text, what do you think now? I’ll await your loudmouth here, lets see if you still feel the same way or like Drew Tyler the fictitious piece of dung you simply stay underground where you can’t be challenged. Surely why you are quiet now?

Keisha Goble · STNA at Stein Hospice

The point of the matter here is that he did not need to be murdered by the cops. He was unarmed and did not have a hostage. They just walked up shooting. If the cops killed everyone for getting in a fight with their spouse every married couple would be killed by the police. He was unarmed and just sitting on his parents bed when those cops killed him.

The TRUTH that needs to be told, not the crap that happened prior that could have justified this killing, but to be sitting peacefully in a room not getting called out by Deputy’s they are lucky he wasn’t armed, or is it THEY KNEW from prior incidents he more than likely wasn’t? Surely that’s a fact not being shared for I believe what Brian said in one of his texts, or texts THEY made trying to justify this. I believe the ONLY reason they did this was to silence him for something he knew that he told nobody. I realize that’s a stretch, but just like those who are justifying I am here to say it wasn’t!

Keisha Goble · STNA at Stein Hospice

He was sitting in his parents bedroom alone. He was in no way shape or form in the position to hurt anyone but himself. So please explain to me why the police thought they needed to shoot him? He did not need to die. If they believed he did have a gun they could n there are other options other than shooting him five times before he even did anything. He didn’t more or say a word to them. If it were your life you may rethink that huh? Or would you still think it be OK for the cops to shoot an unarmed man 5 times while he was sitting on his moms bed due to hear say?? I bet not!!

Yes, his dad only heard what sounded like 5 shots, how ever the BCI advised in their report 16 casings were found. Once again, did it take this many shots fired to take him down regardless if he had a gun or not. A Deputy went bonkers and NOW he’s free to roam our streets???? – What the hell is our Sheriff thinking, and some of his buds say he’s the smartest Sheriff ever????? Maybe the most protected Sheriff ever, but definitely not the smartest???? 

Frank Grauer · Galion Senior High

It is all about money. I’ll bet the LAWYERS are lined up. I think the wife and mother should be charged with giving false information, and maybe manslaughter.

Frank gets the knucklehead award, charge those who WARNED the Deputy’s he could have a gun? Nobody said they saw anything, and the text message was made only a few short moments before he was killed, I believe it was a setup for what some say is “problem solved” being the wife said she loved him on one hand yet wanted a divorce – wth is that? If anything is found these Deputy’s may be found complicit to MURDER for hire? It’s not the first time they have gotten away with this, remember ROTTEN TO THE CORE? Many of us do!

 

Diane Schroer · Top Commenter · Clear Fork High School

 

It still makes me sick Brian had no chance to surrender.

There’s a FACT NOBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS?????

Phil Nichols · Top Commenter · The Ohio State University

What a bunch of hillbilly drama. Guess he won’t be shooting off his mouth anymore – because the deputies silenced him permanently. And look how much money his wife will save by not having to file for divorce now. Cue the banjo music !!!

One would say this Phil Nichols may not like this young man, part of the “problem solved” gang. We shall see when Justice is served bud!

Kyle Jensen Høifødt

Seems like this is becoming a more and more common occurence… and the same tired old excuses are spouted every time.

You got it right Kyle, how ever it’s time we the people say we have had enough! Time for these people to start doing their jobs before we have a Ferguson, MO. on our hands. These Deputy’s should not have been returned to Duty before this investigation that has now taken 6 months to complete in final. Now we have a NEW Prosecutor who has the file we must wait even longer for the call of injustice. I will find it UNBELIEVABLE if anything less is found than injustice to one in our Community!

Tina Evans · University of Arkansas

Police have a very tough job. Unless people walk in their shoes they don’t know what law enforcement has to deal with. I’d love to see the critical people try to do those jobs for just one day on some of the calls they get.

I don’t think anyone doubts that Tina, what they are doubting is some of their abilities to make wise judgement calls. We can’t have officers of the law playing Judge, Jury, and Executioner can we? There’s a thing called DUE PROCESS, and when it’s ignored we have issues like this! Knowing the facts with exception what these Deputy’s will say happened in that room to justify this MURDER, if protocol was followed this would not be an issue! Once again the FBI was here and raided many homes known to have weapons and not a single shot FIRED! What’s that tell ya????

Tod Mills · Top Commenter · University of Michigan

I distinctly remember reading those articles and you are exactly right! Remember how the cheerleaders were saying that everyone was just out to get one of the fine officers who threw a chair?

Michael Wright · Police Dispatcher at Ontario Police Department

Tod Mills, until you set your ass in a patrol car and do that job you have no credibility whatsoever. It’s real easy to make comments when you aren’t the one who has to deal with it.

 Michael Wright, maybe one could BLAME the dispatch in this case, after all they were the ones on the phone with the so-called victim who was safely across the street where the call originated. Sorry bud, but you can’t justify this shooting being they are the ones here who figment of their imagination that he actually had a gun knowing he’s done this before without a gun. There’s no just cause to believe he had one now, even his wife admits that off the record, hmmm?

Tod Mills · Top Commenter · University of Michigan

^ Police Dispatcher and Secretary of the Police Cheerleading Team, right behind spouses and dreamy-eyed folks who swoon over uniforms and get distracted by shiny badges. Kinda surprised Michael didn’t trot out the old line, “Just you wait until you need to call them to save your sorry butt! You’ll be changing your tune then, buster!”

Someone observed to me, “It’s easy for Michael Wright to make comments when he isn’t the one who has to deal with a shred of accountability or being murdered with impunity.”

Michael, do you ever lose any sleep at night knowing that you are paid with money taken from people under threat of violence? “Robber” is the more accurate adjective describing your occupation.

Just in case Michelle didn’t see your comment Tod, he surely will now – lol! It will NEVER BE REMOVED HERE!!!!!

Mitch McKenzie · Top Commenter · The University of Texas at Austin

They called for assistance to save his life and all these cops could do was eviscerate him. Many people have much more dangerous jobs then cops, I am so tired of hearing how the rest of society can’t possibly judge cops who kill.  – Amen brother!

Tod Mills · Top Commenter · University of Michigan

Mitch McKenzie great comment. Law enforcement does not even in the top ten list of most dangerous occupations. It is not even nearly as dangerous as being a farmer or roofer!

Jim Wetzel · Top Commenter · Colorado Technical University

Michael don’t worry, these armchair wannabe’s are just very anti-police probably because they have been on the wrong side of it so many times. How many of them would be saying things different if they found out this guy did have a gun and he did point it at the officers? Lets see, they would still say that they could have shot him in the leg. People that have never done the job probably couldn’t handle it anyway and just like to sit back and second guess others who do it. The trouble is, if you second guess yourself when someone is pointing a gun at you, you don’t go

Don’t worry guys, Jim Wetzel has been defending corruption for some time now. He defended John Mayer and said he would get his job back. My guess is he thinks the Mall job or now as County Building Security that counts as getting his job back? The REALITY is he lost his not only this job, but his $2 Million Dollar Lawsuit in which he thought he would WIN! One can only wonder why he hasn’t run his mouth about this anymore? Lets see how he handles himself on 911 once again when we protest their CORRUPTION! Check this link for details by Occupy Mansfield

Kari Jasinski · The Ohio State University

The sad part is that he probably didn’t even have a gun. This article is incredibly vague as to whether he did or not and the police were as well. This is just another prime example of police brutality and the low life scum that lives in Mansfield needing to attack someone else’s life because they are unsatisfied with their own. Rest in peace, Brian.

Brian will surely rest in peace knowing we sought Justice for him, regardless if he gets it or not Karma will surely follow those evil doers who accept this behavior, God be with us!

Jason Day · Mansfield, Ohio

Now this family is going to sue the pants off the Sheriffs departments, and we’ll all pay for it!

Actually the family is not seeking monetary relief, they are seeking Justice for Brian – period! Yes, most corruption survives on such a deal, NOT THIS TIME!

Daren Nezrick ·  Top Commenter · Works at Mansfield Plumbing Products

we’ll never know the truth now, family says he wasn’t armed, miscommunication between how many officers on the seen, looks like a cover up from the start. All I can say about this – yep!

Kenny Bailey · Tool & Die Maker at Whirlpool USA

Why has no one mentioned the bci agent investigating is one of their old buddies… hmmm…..

Oh, we are Kenny – that’s why we are protesting their corruption and cover ups – good catch!

Glenda Branham Rowe · Top Commenter · North Central State College

Exactly Keisha! They have always said Brian “might” have had a gun. They said an officer “might” have been injured. They “thought” the coroner had been called. They were trying to cover their butts, flat out. It’s really scary to think the people they called there to HELP him, took his life. This was a totally unwarranted murder!!!!! Time for the Sheriff’s Dept to ‘fess up!

Nothing but lies, and you are right – this is a cover up in the works, why else would they take so long?, they want people to forget the details they haven’t talked to! Ask Drew Tyler, he/she will tell you – prove it! They are too powerful, time to protect yourselves because this is not protection that was expected. You call 911 today, someone will die! Especially with all the concocted crap like we saw a remote in his hand and thought it was a gun, how lame is that?

Renee Chase · North Central State College

I do know the cops spent a long time in that room, searching for a gun. NO gun was found.

The WHOLE HOUSE was seized for one room they got a warrant for! They not only didn’t find a gun in that room, but no where in the ENTIRE HOME! Surely they looked, and this family will tell you, they don’t own any! The question STILL not answered is WHY he said in his text “I too now have a gun” – who was he directing this too?

Derrick Hunter · Works at The Columbus Dispatch

I can smell the stench of corruption all over this, so sorry for the family and their loss.

Coming from one who knows how the media works, hmmm? – Columbus Dispatch???

Misty Berendt · Follow

Don’t take away the guns from the ppl bc then the only ones that will have guns is the police if u only knew the truth notice the man had no gun read the police report that lied and said he did one office fired 16 times!! more like 4 officers firing 4 times. At age 13 chief of police creep up behind me when i turned around he hit me in the nose blooding my nose this was for smoking a cig! i tried to run he pulled his gun and shoot at me 2 times 1 bullet was so close to my head that it effected my hearing for 3 days he tried to kill me for a cigg at only 13 yrs old! At 9 yrs old a cop tried to make me take my cloths off i refused and he also bloody my nose both officers escaped judgement this left me with a fear of the police and no respect for them and NO TRUST…I HOPE THE FAMILY GETS JUSTICE FOR THE MURDER OF THEIR SON!!

Just flat out interesting how one can be affected by an incident, hmmm?

Tod Mills ·  Top Commenter · University of Michigan

Just think if the deputies had been wearing body cams. We would then have an excellent record of what transpired, we would KNOW whether the deputies shot before saying anything, as some have alleged, we would KNOW that Brian Garber was not pointing a gun at or shooting at the deputies.

A city in California that required their cops to wear them saw a huge drop in complaints against the police and a huge drop in use of force by police: “When you put a camera on a police officer, they tend to behave a little better, follow the rules a little better,” Chief Farrar said. “And if a citizen knows the officer is wearing a camera, chances are the citizen will behave a little better.”http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/in-california-a-champion-for-police-cameras.html?_r=0

Tod, even if we bought them here you know what they will do? They will say they broke in the scuffle or turn them off. Just like all the 911 calls and cams turned off intentionally around here. Cover up City, or should I say County?

John DeChiara ·  Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

Looks like the family got their son killed by lying to the police about a gun.

I hope someone points this out to you John, you’re a dumb ass! NOBODY said he had a gun, that’s simply what THEY want you to think! They said he could have because he said you won’t like what I have under my shirt. That’s a far cry from saying they saw anything!

Keisha Goble · STNA at Stein Hospice

Its not their responsibility to check for one before they shoot someone. Good greif

They did check Keisha, their excuse now is a remote looked like a gun, what’s next is what I’m waiting for? Surely if and when the Grand Jury is selected they will get to see he never moved from where his mother last saw him when they see the blood everywhere on the OPPOSITE side of the room too! So they can’t say like some posters he was reaching for their gun, that’s just as ludicrous as now saying death by suicide by a police officer. Where do they get this BS?????

Rich Armstrong

Keisha Goble It is not the leos responsibility to stand there and potentially be killed when responding to a domestic call where you have someone out of control over medications, has already been reported by the family to have committed domestic battery on the mother and wife to the point they left the home, has texted the fact he acquired a gun and purportedly shown said weapon to his father who confirmed that to the leos. It’s not like this was the first call regarding this individual either. If he wasn’t dangerous, his father could have talked him down without calling the leos. The mother or wife could have remedied the situation without involving the leos. Obviously by calling them, they were concerned enough over family safety to escalate the situation. Let the investigation take it’s course before you start an online campaign to denigrate the actions of the leos or elevated the deceased to a saintly position.

Rich, you can do the same my friend. The father NEVER said he had a gun so I’m not sure where you grasped this from unless it was a Deputy buddy trying to justify themselves like Zehner tried in a bar a week or so later. That’s how we know he’s the dipshit who EMPTIED his magazine. Why else are they afraid to tell the public this?, they are afraid a lynch mob will storm downtown, that’s why!

Glenda Branham Rowe ·  Top Commenter · North Central State College

No, it wasn’t their responsibility to “stand there and potentially get shot”. No one is saying it was. But it absolutely WAS their responsibility to assess the situation before shooting and killing an unarmed man. They didn’t even try. And he OBVIOUSLY didn’t point a gun at them to warrant the unloading of one on him, since one was not found, CORRECT? Just because the police got word that he had one is absolutely NO reason for them to go up shooting. What else could he have done to warrant his murder? Lunge at them with a knife? Nope, because one was not found. Throw a remote control at them? Come on now. If cops can not handle and diffuse these type of situations, they shouldn’t be cops. And no, I’m not a cop hater. My brother-in-law is an officer and a dang good one, and actually knew one that was present for Brian’s shooting. The fact of the matter is regardless of the circumstances, he did not deserve to be shot and killed. Period.

Tell it like it is Glenda!

Rich Armstrong

Glenda Branham Rowe Perhaps you should ask your brother-in-law about how much time there is to assess the situation and react before you die. Leos make life and death decisions in milliseconds. Not all decisions are correct and many are second guessed after the fact. Leos don’t have that luxury as people die in those milliseconds, both leos and civiilians. Unless you were in that room at that time, you have no idea what occurred and should wait till the report comes out. Domestic situations are bad enough without adding medication problems to it. Many times individuals who call the leos in on a domestic regret it later. This appears to be the case here.

Rich, it’s apparent you are taking sides and not looking at the facts. The fact is there was no urgency here as you and others want to play out. The women were safe across the street, and the accused was upstairs in his parents home where he could have easily been called out! So to say they didn’t have the luxury to make a well thought out decision or plan of action makes you and others scary yo say the least! Sure this family WILL REGRET calling for help, like MANY have said before there is none here! I am willing to bet when this is all done there won’t be a need for 911 unless the intent is to kill and there’s imminent danger, then again it could serve as a double edged sword and get someone else killed? My guess is this is what our Governing leaders want, the people killing themselves so they don’t have to anymore?

Phil Sydnor · Major Sales at ABC Warehouse Ontario, Ohio

Keep in mind these Deputy’s will not answer to the public and surely will be justified by the made up as you go reasoning they have already fed you in the local news. This will be considered the family’s fault for wanting to get their Husband / Child the help he needs. From what I have read from those defending these Deputy’s is…”Problem Solved” – Sorry, but that PISSES ME OFF!

Need I say more?

Loann Loar Keyes

I see the family corrected the medication to klonopin, Klonopin calms people down , it is for panic disorders, and seizure disorders, so it would not make Brian aggressive at all, and if was off of it, he would have been more unable to do a thing, kind of throws you into a dullness when taken off suddenly so family better get their facts straight, to call that he out of control and now he the best guy and with a history he has what is a law enforcement officer to do, and facts of no gun doesnt mean he didnt have one, maybe they just couldnt find it, and wait until the final report is out before make judgment calls and this and that.

This was better answered by an RN than me, I don’t know?

Donna Holmes · Works at RN, retired

Loann Loar Keys, The situation is bad enough without someone like you making wrong statements. Please don’t make anymore statements. Every deputy should be held accountable for their part.

Keisha Goble · STNA at Stein Hospice

If you are as educated in medicine as you are trying to appear to be in your statement you would have also stated that no everyone reacts the same to every med. And abruptly discontinuing A RX can cause serve reactions that are not the same with each person and not all side effects can and are listed on the list.

Tod Mills ·  Top Commenter · University of Michigan

Here is my take:
It appears that at least one deputy needs to be:
1) Charged and convicted of the murder of Brian Garber, with the appropriate prison term.
2) Lose job.
3) Compensate the family from personal savings/retirement/assets (with additional compensation from the county as needed)

Additionally, if the shooter(s) have a history of complaints, as at least one of the deputies involved does, the sheriff himself should be charged with negligence for failing to remove the deputy from service (depending upon the balance of power between the union and the sheriff) and in any case the sheriff should either resign or be recalled. If the deputy was not removed from service because of the actions of the union, then the parties in the union that prevented the removal of the shooter should be held responsible and the union, in any case, should be disbanded.

Rich Armstrong

Tod, you certainly have an agenda on this board. You leave absolutely no doubt that no matter what the circumstances, leos will never have a fair chance with your attitude. Don’t know what happened to you to cause that, but you seriously need help with your anger issues.

Even though I believe someone needs help with their anger issues, I find it hard to believe it would be Tod Mills with a well thought out response many others are just thinking?

Tod Mills ·  Top Commenter · University of Michigan

Rich Armstrong , do you think for a moment that if you had done what the deputy(ies) had done….go into a house and shoot and kill an unarmed man….that you would not be raked over the coals for murder? I just believe that badges don’t grant special rights and that the huge numbers of instances of police abuse and shootings of both people and pets poses a serious problem.
Do I have an agenda? You betcha! It is that police be held to the same standards as anyone else. Am I angry? I certainly am! We should ALL be angry that an unarmed man was shot dead.

Rich Armstrong

Tod Mills Until everyone has access to the final report about the conditions of the confrontation, no one can know why he was shot. Even unarmed people can be shot if they show sufficient aggression or attempt to take an officer’s weapon. Please remember, the officers were warned up front numerous times he had a weapon, had texted the same to the ones who called the leos and verbally reinforced that when they were on the scene. They also indicated fear of bodily harm in their call and in person. I read the original story in the paper and it indicated a person out of control, possessing a handgun and already guilty of domestic violence against the wife and mother to the point they left the home. That alone justifies extreme caution among the leos. They want to go home to their families too. I will be interested in the narrative of what happened in the confrontation. I find it very difficult to believe leos opened fire on someone without provocation. I am also interested in how many rounds were fired by each leo. 16 rounds sounds very excessive unless multiple leos fired their weapons at the same time. Let us let the BCI investigation provide us with answers and go from there.

Once again Rich, and I am sorry you’re not privy to the same information we are, but the truth of the matter is you will find IF your on the Grand Jury that this man was NO THREAT sitting right where his mother said when Zehner commenced unloading his weapon on this man, the ONLY QUESTION that still remains is WHY?

Tod Mills ·  Top Commenter · University of Michigan

Rich Armstrong Had the victim been armed and threatening or shooting at the leos, you would not be hearing a peep from me. As for 16 rounds, one shoots to stop the threat and it is rare that one or two rounds will do that….quickly emptying a magazine in a rush of adrenaline is very typical and it is likely that several rounds missed the subject, even at close range.

On top of that Tod being the situation was not assessed there were innocent by standers who could have been shot. How did they know for sure this was Brian when they thought a remote looked like a gun and they NEVER identified themselves or called out his name? Why is NOBODY say WTF to that?

Renee Chase · North Central State College

His father was right there when it happened and no words were even spoken, they just filled him up with bullets, because they thought he had a gun…There was no confrontation.

Byron E Yambrisak ·  Top Commenter · Self-employed at Small Business Owner/ Real Estate Investment

Jeff Frasier was involved in this incident. Jeff Frasier has been disciplined for excessive force multiple times. Jeff Frasier has used his weapon before in the course of his “duties”

Surely they will say Byron’s testimony here is unbelievable because he too was wrongfully convicted and has a beef with corruption here. Judge DeWeese conspired to send this man to Prison under a wrongful conviction and I hope he sues too! It’s time people here REALIZE just what the hell is going in here. This man exposed a prostitution ring and a Deputy who was also using this service, say it’s not retribution in his case and I will kiss your butt! It’s high time people here wake up to this sham legal process oging on here where they have corrupted our Clerk of Courts so they can make deals with criminals, this is WHY we have such a crime problem. NO JUSTICE – NO PEACE, KNOW JUSTICE – KNOW PEACE, right????

Loann Loar Keyes

If you read it correctly Deputy Frasier was told to wait outside, he is the only one of the 5 who did not go inside, get youre facts straight sir

Byron E Yambrisak ·  Top Commenter · Self-employed at Small Business Owner/ Real Estate Investment

Sheriff’s officers Sgt. James Nicholson and Lt. Donald Zehner and deputies Jeff Frazier, Andrew Knee and James Berry responded to the scene, according to the report. Berry reportedly was stationed outside the home, while the rest of the deputies entered the residence, according to sheriff reports.

Somebody needs to check on this lady, she’s a detriment to our society reporting falsehoods like this! CLEARLY the paper said Berry remained outside, matter a fact he remained outside all night with Deputy White who as of late had a son who took a loaded gun onto school property in Lexington who was expelled! Why are they covering this up??? Tired of those who work on our dime getting protected by the media!!!!

Buddy Workman · North Central State College

Facts of the matter police cannot just shoot with out probable cause they better have seen a gun

I agree with Buddy! – Two thumbs up!!!!

Brian Hauck ·  Top Commenter · Works at Self-Employed

Yes he reportedly had a gun, but as the article above states, no gun was found and yet the officers fired 16 shots…Regardless of what had happened previously, no evidence of any gun was found and not only is 16 shots excessive but there has to be a way to resolve a situation without ending someone’s life like that…I have heard no evidence or heard of no evidence that he had a gun or fired upon the officers, so i have to ask, why did the officers fire on him? Wouldn’t a non-lethal method like a taser or a stun gun been more effective in resolving the situation? Obviously without knowing everything that happened it’s hard to say what should have or could have been done, but it just seems like what was done was entirely excessive and perhaps unnecessary. Regardless, this is a tragic situation for all involved….officers included :(

Joey Shaver · Columbus State Community College

Please, please stop with all the judging, it was a tragedy waiting to happen, I have no vested interest in this matter except a human life was ended, but EVERYONE knows that there were several complaints and allegations by the people involved. If you are a mother, father, wife, do you want your loved one to walk into a dark room with someone who has made death threats, hit his mother, choked his wife, AND reportedly has a gun??? And should the officer just be given one bullet? If we are to learn from this, write a comment on how YOU could have handled it!! or how it could have been handled better or differently, otherwise let the investigation take its course and oh by the way, let us hope the witnesses and the shooter can get the help they need to move to the next phase of their lives.

The ONLY Judgement made this day Joey was the Judgement these men made. Sure there were temporary protection orders filled out, 911 was called, how ever the situation was not what many want YOU and OTHERS to believe. I’m actually not going to repeat again with exception their duty is to get this safely resolved and before the Judge and Jury. These men prosecuted this man illegally and all we ask is they get the same. NOBODY has said off with their heads! What they have said is they want Justice for Brian, an indictment just may get that done of no collusion is involved. Something many of us know happens here when the letter of the law is not followed. The basis of our complaints and grievances is…THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THIS – PERIOD!!!!

Keisha Goble · STNA at Stein Hospice

Let me tell you something. You would thing twice if that was your son or family that got shot with no just cause. I don’t care what he did before. Those officers had no right to shoot a unarmed man. That’s murder and just like everyone else they need to go to jail. And you sir are a heartless jerk. And I will pray for you.

Yesterday at 9:09pm

Joey Shaver · Columbus State Community College

Please pray and ask forgiveness for yourself, you have already begun the process of making your son continue the cycle of what is wrong with the world, you openly disrespected and called names to a person you don’t even know anything about!! I have been around longer than you, had more life experience than you, and by virtue of your judgmental views I try to be a better person and live my life right, you apparently don’t. If you read my entire postings from the start, I said Everybody needs to be careful not to judge and everyone needs to find a way to heal! And to correct you and anyone else that responds to this, I have worked around mental patients, I don’t “act” like I know more than I know about medications, I “quoted” the statements the wife and parents made to the deputies and 911 dispatcher, I also said I have been on both sides of the issue, in fact making me MORE sensitive to the issue! And if it were my son or close friend or relative, I would stand firm in the facts that he was hitting his mother, choking his wife, implied that he had a gun, kept running and hiding when the deputies would get there, was off his medication(whatever that can cause), and sent a documented “DEATH THREAT”, and confronted a law enforcement officer in a dark room, I will ask you since you obviously can’t or didn’t read what I wrote, What would you do??? What do you think should have happened??? You show how naive and inexperienced your are about life by responding to me, I didn’t pull the trigger, but I do know most psychologists will tell you, past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior! What if his wife was your sister? What if his mom was your mom or grandma or aunt? What if he would have choked his wife to death? Stopped his moms heartbeat by beating her in the chest, she said it I didn’t, are you mad at the mother now? Your anger is obviously misplaced, if you are still mad toward me, there is a good chance you will raise your kids to have misplaced blame and anger, good luck.

March 21 at 9:25am

Joey, the SAME can be said for LEO’s – Didn’t the Deputy in question have a father who too was a cop KILL someone? What about the Deputy who’s son just broke the law recently when he took a gun to school for protection? Come on dude, keep it real!!!!! – Lets also keep in mind many of these guys are known or have family members who are known to play with drugs, how is that for a double standard??? I say if you want to clean up our houses, you clean yours up first!!!!!

Warren Shields · University of Michigan

sherriffs fired 16 shots the article says wow they must be real bad shots or something?

Damn, even a Michigan guy got it right – lol! Cop in Cleveland just rightfully killed a man with a gun and it only took him 3 shots – two thumbs up, nice catch!

911 log indicates Garber shooting escalated quickly

Tod Mills · Top Commenter · University of Michigan

“Deputy Berry was instructed to “get the father (Matt Garber). Secure him in a safe place.” ” – code for “get him away so he can’t see what we do next”?

“Details about the shooting are still slow to be released as the state Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation conducts its investigation.” – code for “as they make sure to only release details that are consistent with the story we want to fabricate”?

The quick pace of events is certainly consistent with what several posters have said with earlier articles, that the cops just barged in and quickly shot the victim.

Not surprising that the shooter or shooters have not been identified. Gotta maintain that thin blue line and the best way is to not single out any crime-committing members. Keep the public in the dark until they no longer care about the story any more.

Diane Schroer · Clear Fork High School

What has bothered me for many yrs (even prior to this event) is that theres no ‘checks or balances’ for police. You have to just HOPE theyre good.

What’s even worse is there’s no checks and balances anywhere in our Justice system, this is not those who protect and serves fault. This happens in our Court system!

Why no news on investigation of Brian Garber’s death?

On March 16, 2014, Brian Garber was killed by members of the Richland County Sheriff’s Department. It has been more than three months since this killing. From the information the News Journal was able to squeeze from the government, the deceased did not have a gun. Fifteen or 16 bullets were fired at him and the coroner was not called to the scene for hours. I have been a criminal defense lawyer in Richland County for 41 years, 7 months and 14 days and I question why there has not been one word about the investigation in this cause.

I know the stock answers. The Bureau of Criminal Investigation (BCI) has taken over the inquiry because they are an independent organization. It would not be wise to be positively influenced by the BCI taking over this investigation. For years, it has worked closely with the sheriff’s department.

“We can’t reveal anything because the investigation is ongoing.” This is garbage.

What is there to investigate? Certainly by now, an autopsy would have been performed to determine if the deceased died of natural causes or the untold and unknown number of bullet holes in his body. This is not a situation where witnesses have to be sought and pulled out of the woodwork. It would appear all of the lay witnesses live in the Mill Run Road area and are known to the authorities. Certainly, the sheriff’s department deputies would be immediately available to accurately and succinctly tell what happened, given their excellent training and experience.

To this writer who has experience with many criminal cases, this walks like a cover-up, talks like a cover-up, smells like a cover-up and looks like a cover-up.

Draw your own conclusions.

Bernard R. Davis

Mansfield

Ruth V Schwan · Top Commenter · Owner at Purr-L Harbor and Sand and Sea LLC

really? a nut case making threats, has or has not a weapon, people calling for assistance with the nut case, responders come, nut case being a nut case, nut case is shot, problem solved, its really no ones business in the public sector how many holes, or how. the continued path of the untreated nut case being a continued threat is over. Maybe you should be asking how to make it easier to commit the nut cases that are a threat to everyone instead.

Debbie Jasinski

It’s sad that you feel the need to call this young man a nut case. You only know what you read. You did not know this young man personally. I watched this young man grow up and yes he had some problems and a disturbance did happen but it was handled very badly. No words spoken only bullets fired, and yes I do know that to be true. You have an evil heart to throw words like this on here when there is a family suffering. You are quick to slam him but where is the investigation results? How can you not question this situation? It has been far too long for this family to be without answers and they have a right to know and as a citizen I have a right to know. God help us all if bullets are the only answer to domestic problems when the authorities are called. You never know what will cross your path one day, so don’t be so quick to judge. Geez lady, you have an attorney questioning it and I think he has some knowledge on how this all works. It most definitely is time for answers.

Connie Goble Garber · Works at American Health Network

Wow, you did not know him and you have no right to call my son a nut case. You are heartless. So since you have no heart then if this ever happens to you, evidently it would not bother you. A lot of the things that were reported about him was very untrue. Only a NUTCASE herself could call someone a nut case that had his life ended in cold blooded murder.

Wow! – One could say Ruth V Schwan has a special place for these Deputy’s to defend them in such as way. Lady, have you lost your mind? I hope NOBODY gives you the business!!!! –  Owner at Purr-L Harbor and Sand and Sea LLC

How long can deputies be allowed to get away with murder?

 

Thank you, Mr. Bernard Davis, for having the compassion and common decency to give your opinion about my son’s death. It is too bad others who know the truth do not have the courage to comment the way you have.

He was murdered by deputies and all the so-called professionals in this town know it, but they continue to cover this up as they have done many times before for this corrupt sheriff’s department. Why the cover up? Is it to hide your own corruptness? Are you afraid that if they are exposed for their crimes there could be a domino effect for your pitiful excuse of a justice department?

When the BCI came to my home the day after the murder of my son to ask me my account of what happened, I plain and simply asked them: “How many people are you going to let them murder before you put a stop to this?” They had their tape recorder running, but I have to wonder if that part was erased.

To all of you who want to cover this up, I ask you, what if this happened to a member of your family, what would you do? How would you like for these cowards who carry a badge and a gun to come in and not even speak to the person that they are shooting at?

What kind of monsters do you employ, who have their salaries paid by taxpayers?

In the beginning, they said he had a gun, and then they said they found a magazine. What a joke. You know he had nothing on him. He was sitting up on the bed and these cowards go in and gun him down. Now you are trying to say that he held up a remote control to a TV. Please, do you know how stupid you sound with your pitiful excuses that you come up with? Yes, there was an old remote in that room in the drawer of the night stand. And these two men entered the room shooting. You didn’t know if that was my son or if there could have been kids in the room.

You didn’t know and you didn’t care. You put bullet holes in the wall, and headboard and 14 into him. It is obvious you didn’t stop to even look at him. The bedroom light was not on. It was only the hallway light that shone through that room and you could see him sitting there.

Now I ask our decent tax paying citizens, do you think that this couldn’t happen to you? Think again.

Connie Garber

Lexington

Meri Etzwiler ·  Top Commenter · Lexington, Ohio

I’m sorry about what happened to this young man. I feel for his parents, his wife, and his children. However, I was following the story as it unfolded that night, and I don’t understand why the three people closest to him (mom, dad, and wife) all told police he had a gun and was making death threats. What did they think would happen? I’m typically the first to speak out against police brutality, but to say that law enforcement is 100% to blame in this case seems pretty unreasonable. I know what it’s like to lose the most important person in the world to me. I know what it’s like to look for somewhere to place my anger. And finally, after several years, I know what it’s like to find peace. I hope all involved can do the same.

Surely when Justice is served they will – Justice for Brian!

Cathy Kiley ·  Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

Okay, I just have one question. What possible reason would the officers have to “murder” this young man? I understand that there is unimaginable pain here, and it is entirely possible that protocol was not followed, and it is entirely possible that everything happened so fast that the situation took on a life of it’s own. We don’t know yet because the investigation is not over. Let’s not try this in the court of public opinion.

Cathy, this is ALL by design – 6 months is entirely too long after the fact to charge anyone realistically, how ever I hope I am wrong. This Murder is in no way justifiable unless it was murder for hire, we all know how people get paid to make these things go away! I hope in this case we can move past what this Community can no longer afford, another LAWSUIT! What we are asking for just as IF this was one of us that the Prosecutor seeks Justice, many times in which they no longer do. It’s ALL about the money!

April Bragg ·  Top Commenter · Works at Two Bird Lovers

When you deal with the lose of a loved one, it is easy to shift the blame.. Sympathy goes out to the family. However only hearing one side of the story, from his mother, and the things that are being said it ties the hands of law enforcement to tell their side of it. An out side source is doing the investigation, no reason to think it is a cover up. I have never had an interaction with any law enforcement officer in Mansfield or Richland County that would leave me to think they are big bad and mean.I did get a ticket once, only because I made the choice to make a left hand turn between the wrong hours. Not the cops fault it was mine! If we all took responsibility for our actions, would this even be a subject to discuss? Fact is when one makes the choice to play by his rules and NOT obey the laws he opens him self up to having a lot of interactions with law enforcement. I wish the mother would put on the News Journal his arrest record. How many times he has had the police to his home over his actions! What is that old phrase? ” You live by the sword you die by the sword”. Why was it ok for a man to put the life of others at risk but wrong for others to defend them self? Who gave a man with a criminal record AND a history of violent behavior a gun? Some of the responsibility of this tragic loss of life needs to be put on everyone who was involved that night not just the police.

Yes, and it’s easy money too! – who do you think will pay for this if these men do not face a trial and Jury of peers?

Joey Shaver · Columbus State Community College

How many times does this horrible situation have to be “rehashed” in the media??? Everybody involved in this is Permanently damaged in one way or another! Parents lost a child, child lost a father deputies, medical staff had to be involved, etc., but all arguments aside, I know there is corruption everywhere, but..when we are in denial of the “FACTS”, that makes all this even more complicated! Writing an editorial calling employees monsters is the way you feel, and maybe there are people with bad behavior within the department that are or could be portrayed as monsters. However, Brian Garber could be or could have been looked upon the same way by others. Brian was a convicted felon, he had committed physical acts of violence toward his family, he had made threats to his family, and he had shown his family what they thought and reported to be a gun, in addition, he had been on and off his prescribed “medication”. Brian also fled the house after the initial “emergency” call by the family, I was not there, I am not clearing anyone of any wrongdoing, or defending anyone, in fact I have had this same talk with my own mother about one of my family members and his behavior! So in conclusion, if there was any wrongdoing by anyone, I hope it is addressed correctly, however, Brian Garber had choices that evening, and he made poor choices, and if anyone else made poor choices, hopefully it will be dealt with properly. Remember, poor choices can result in death, no matter who you blame! I was always told “people in glass houses should not throw stones”, the older I get the more it makes sense!

Boy, your FACTS have me ROTFLMAO! – Prove them here if you can, that’s what Drew Tyler says!!!! – lol! I laugh every time I see your rants from mothers basement – lol! again and again!

Diane Day · Madison comprehensive high school

Everyone that says they was wrong next time you need help someone hurts you or does any thing unlawful don’t call them if you think so bad

Michael Wright · Madison High School

Glad to see not everyone is making crazy accusations, but lets just review what we do know about this incident:1. There was some type of domestic incident that took place. 2. Brian Garber left prior to the arrival of the deputies.(he had to know they were coming) 3. He threatened to kill his wife when he got out of jail. 4. He said he had a gun. (NONE of these facts are in dispute). 5. He returned to his parents house and went upstairs. At this point a 2nd call was made bringing the deputies back to the residence. In addition his mother originally stated he was taking medication that was affecting his behavior. All of these factors would put any law enforcement officer on alert. Domestic Violence calls are some of the most dangerous calls the police respond to. As far as them not saying anything to Brian before the shooting happened we only have the mothers word for that at this time. Even if nothing was said, sometimes things happen so fast that’s just the way it is. As far as the number of times he was shot, it takes approx. 1/4 of a second to press the trigger and fire a shot. That’s 4 shots per second. Given the prevalent training is to shoot until the threat stops it is not unusual for an officer to fire 4-5 shots. Given the fact there were 3 deputies present 14-16 shots would not be that unusual. And REMEMBER, if Brian had surrendered peacefully none of this would have happened. As far as Brian not having a weapon, he had to have made some type of suspicious movement to cause the deputies to shoot. I’m not saying police officers don’t make mistakes, they do, however in this case there is no definitive proof that that is the case. My sympathy goes out to the Garber family, but denial is clouding their judgment. If the investigation proves otherwise then hopefully the family will get their justice, but I’m not expecting any charges to come out of this tragedy. (And not because of a corrupt system)

The ones in denial are those like yourself my friend, you’re clouded by facts that were not relevant at the time. Everyone was safe until these Deputy’s stormed a home they were not called to or had a legal warrant to enter. That my friend is denial of the law! This could have ended peacefully, but these Deputy’s elected not too, now like Tim Misney says…THEY must pay! or using Judge DeWeeses words, “There are choices, and there are Consequences” – pick your poison!

Philip Williams ·  Top Commenter

She left out the part where either her daughter or she reported he had a gun. From initial reports, the dad verified he saw his son with a gun. Now, if he was just sitting in his room, why the 911 call? If he had no gun, how about bringing him down to the door to talk? It’s a tough situation for the officers involved. Is it a gun in his hand? In the back of their mind, it was reported he had one. So, anything remotely looking like a gun in his hand is a gun in a split second decision making moment. Any hesitation on their part means a fellow officer, or the officer himself could be shot. As a person, I would want to go home safe and sound to my family. And I am sure as hell they didn’t just ‘shoot’ without speaking to him. There is not a person in their right mind who would want to shoot anyone, or even kill them. Just my two cents.

So many false witnesses, it’s hard to keep up – people like YOU amaze me!

Jameson Rhoad · Engineering Technician at Transportation Research Center Inc

they called 911 because they were worried about him, and none of the officers said a word to him, they walked up the stairs and started firing. regardless of what they believe the situation to be, they should have done some kind of talking/negotiation before charging in. how many thousands of hostage situations/standoffs have there been where it was verified that the suspect had a weapon, and in how many of them do the police just bust down the door instead of clearing the building and attempting to talk to the person? it just doesnt happen like that, yet for some reason that is how this went for brian, why is that? quit defending the police and let them defend themselves. as the people who pay their salaries, it is our responsibility to question everything they do and expect answers to those questions. answers they continue to refuse to give.

Chauncey Bragg Sr. · Mansfield Senior High School

Jameson Rhoad First off what type of criminal record did the said person have? Second who reported he had a weapon? Who told the police where to locate the said person? Who told the responding officers the situation was “cleared” with no weapons before the officers went to the room? 9 1 1 is for EMERGENCIES not a phone call for concern of someone unless the said person is a danger to him self or others! If memory severs correctly he had domestic violence record. Don’t get me wrong, it didn’t have to happen the way it did. BUT in the same note, I can under stand why the officers would have felt he was a threat to others. Would you want to walk in to a dark room with a man who is angry with a gun? Most people wouldn’t. Who ever told the police he had a gun, is the person who put his life at risk unless someone advised the officers he was not in possession of the gun!

I checked on this so-called record people like you keep bringing up, case dismissed, hmmm? Surely if this was a REAL violence call it would not have been dismissed, right? Just a vindication by Deputy’s and friends to justify killing a man they can’t stand. Who’s next???????? Maybe you should check your facts before spouting off????

Philip Williams ·  Top Commenter

Jameson Rhoad I imagine BCI is looking into that. I will be on the officers side until they give me reason to doubt them. I can understand the family being upset. It happens on most domestic violence situations. Guy beats wife…wife calls police…police put guy under arrest…wife hits on the police….’Why he didn’t really do anything???’ It’s a mess in those situations. Nobody ‘wins’. But, like I say. Normal people don’t go around looking to shoot and kill someone.

Jameson Rhoad · Engineering Technician at Transportation Research Center Inc

Chauncey Bragg Sr. “Who told the responding officers the situation was “cleared” with no weapons before the officers went to the room? 9 1 1 is for EMERGENCIES not a phone call for concern of someone unless the said person is a danger to him self or others! If memory severs correctly he had domestic violence record.” noone told them this, exactly why they should have approached with some kind of care and perhaps even attempted to behave like the “trained professionals” they supposedly are. they called 911 because they were concerned that he may have had a gun and intended to hurt himself, sounds like correct use of 911. I am pretty sure they didnt call animal control to put down a rabid animal, they called the police to get him help. and besides i think youre missing the point here. if they did nothing wrong, why are they still withholding the investigations results?

Jameson Rhoad · Engineering Technician at Transportation Research Center Inc

Again question me and anyone else all you want, you are still the fool for taking the word of and defending the most corrupt officers in one of the most well known corrupt law enforcement systems in the country.

Philip Williams ·  Top Commenter

Jameson Rhoad Why would they release anything until the conclusion of the investigation? So you can get half a story and say ‘they are holding back’? And the family does bear some responsibility, if they did not inform the officers there was no weapon at this point. I know you want information quickly (that’s the way people want things in this day and age), but this takes time.; If they are wrong…it will come out.

Philip Williams ·  Top Commenter

Jameson Rhoad You really want corrupt? Try Mexico. Try Russia. Try Thailand. Try….well…you get my point. I have not run into anything remotely close to corrupt in America to the point those countries are.

Jameson Rhoad · Engineering Technician at Transportation Research Center Inc

Philip Williams we arent in mexico, russia or thailand…… so yea, point is moot. and bci (who are all either former richland sheriff or their best buds) have nothing to investigate. what could possibly be left? an autopsy? no, they already know they shot him 14 times. search the scene for evidence? oh wait it happened months ago so thats done already. Interview witnesses? what witnesses? the deputies have already been returned to patrolling the streets even though they have not been officially cleared. how does that make you feel, to have multiple people walking around with guns and badges who could be charged with murder at any moment????

Cathy Kiley ·  Top Commenter · Mansfield, Ohio

Jameson Rhoad Were you there?

Arita Hootman

Sounds to me, you just don’t want to believe there is dirty cops in Richland county, there is no reason to put fourteen bullets in this man, and that not even counting all the other bullets they put in the wall and stuff, people you just need to face the fact there is dirty cops, not just here but everywhere

Philip Williams ·  Top Commenter

Arita Hootman Oh…they are there. Just not in the numbers people spout off. Not every cop is a dirty cop. But, you are telling me every cop is dirty. I’m 48. No run ins with the police. People running around about the cops being dirty, probably have had a few too many interactions with them to begin with. I’ve been stopped for speeding, running a red light. But also have been helped while broken down on the side of the road. These are not super people, that can make a call that will please everyone. They do the best they can with what they are given. Not all police calls are rosy, happy filled stories. Most of the time, when they are called, they are dealing with anger, violence, tragedy, horrific injury, and death. Yes…they are trained for it. But, they are human, and it takes it’s toll. YOU try doing that. Day in and day out. I was never a policeman, but I am retired military, and I KNOW what being questioned about every move you make feels like. Being questioned is a good thing. But crucifying them before the facts are known is just idiocy. Let the investigation finish for the complete story.

Arita Hootman

I didn’t say every cop is a dirty cop

Arita Hootman

And no I have not had run ins with them, but you don’t put 14 bullets in a man with no gun, and even if he did why would you put fourteen in him, not counting the other bullets fired and I do know some cops in Richland county are dirty, enough said, you all just don’t want to face facts

Jameson Rhoad · Engineering Technician at Transportation Research Center Inc

I showed up to be with the family immeadiately after it happened given the fact he was my best friend. there seem to be alot of untrue “facts floating around due to he said she-said. but i know what i was told by everyone involved immeadiately after it happened. I also know which officers were present (amazing how all the bad apples showed up at once), and i know about the grudge that has been held for years against brian by an attorney turned judge(to answer the question about why they would want to murder him). youre right he was a convicted felon- convicted of stealing a golf cart and driving around on it(oooohhhhhh what a horrible thing, he was also still quite young when this happened)…. he had domestic violence calls, not charges, due to issues he had when placed on a certain medicine (the same one he was prescribed back on a week before he was killed). He was also a great friend, father, and person in general, not violent in any way, and anyone who knew him personally would agree 100% with me.

the investigation should be finished, what else could they possibly have to do?????? how long does it take to investigate what so many of you are making out to be a cut and dry justified kill??? oh, and if you dont want the stress of being scrutinized for every move you make and dont want to be in danger when youre at work, DONT BECOME A COP! i was military as well, and guess what, no one forced me to do it, it was my choice, the same as yours and theirs.

Michael Wright · Madison High School

14 shots would seem to be a lot to anyone not familiar with defensive shooting. It’s not like on television, the bad guy doesn’t go down after one shot. The training today is to shoot till the threat is over. Given the fact that you can shoot 3-4 shots per second and that there were 3 officers shooting 14 is not that unusual. This would only take 2 -3 seconds to accomplish. This has been studied extensively by the Force Science Institute. Check out their website. I’m not saying they needed to shoot that many times, just that there is a adrenaline charged bodily response when you are shooting in defensive of your life (or think that you are) that is well documented.

Randy Baker ·  Top Commenter · Sales Associate at RV Collision and Restoration, Bushnell , Florida

One day soon we the people are going to get tired of the crooked law and politicians and there will be a new American revolution and I hope it comes in my time,, Im so tired of reading these stories the sad thing is this has been going on a long, The internet is just bringing it to our attantion,, Im going to share this for you to help bring your story to the forfront , I wish you well

Randy Baker ·  Top Commenter · Sales Associate at RV Collision and Restoration, Bushnell , Florida

One day soon we the people are going to get tired of the drooked law and politicians and there will be a new American revolution and I hope it comes in my time,, Im so tired of reading these stories the sad thing is this has been going on a long, The internet is just bringing it to our attantion,, Im going to share this for you to help bring your story to the forfront , I wish you well

Rilda Burchfield ·  Top Commenter · John Marshall

CONNIE AND BERNIE IT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS TO STAND UP TO THE LAW BUT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IF THEY HAVE DONE WRONG AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE.TAKE THIS AS FAR AS YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT AND KEEP IT COMING TO THE FOREFRONT .THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CORRUPTION IN THE CITY OF MANSFIELD WITH BOTH THE POLICE DEPT.AND THE SHERIFFS DEPT.IT AMAZES ME AS TO HOW THINGS LIKE THIS CAN HAPPEN IN THIS DAY AND AGE AND NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT IT,BUT THEN THE LAW PROTECTS THEIR OWN.AS THE BOOK SAYS ROTTEN TO THE CORE.

Nikki Hess- Buckler · North Central State College

I will share this for you son and justice!

THIS BIGGEST POPPYCOCK OF ALL – NICHOLAS SPOGNARDI who came to my group and said this….

Nicholas Spognardi The officers didn’t do anything wrong. I have family members that live right down the street that said he was walking up and down the street waving a gun that day. He looked like he was HI on something or that there was something that was really wrong with him. This wasn’t the first time they were called there that day for a disturbance and each time and once from his family member that he had a gun, that he owned guns, and that he has assaulted them, along with that he was in a room up stairs. We can all sit around and make assumptions on what happened but again we weren’t there that day and really don’t know what was going through those officer’s mind that day. Until you can be in their shoes one day and put your life on the line everyday like they do, until you are a political figure in this country then it is easy to probe and hide behind computers and do pointless lobbying. But until there is hard evidence and they get indicted on something shouldn’t we allow the professional investigators do their job. That is why the Mansfield NJ is declining in readers because they don’t report on anything that is positive or anything that has a merit about this city. That is why Richland Source the online news paper is gaining traction and reports on the positive news in the area.

I wonder if this is what his source that’s so gaining traction reported to him. Interesting when Connie came to the group to call him out on this! I bet his ass is still sore? None of this was ever reported or is true. What pissed me off the most about it is…His family has roots to Rotten to the Core, there enough is enough for me to find the punk unbelievable!

Stay tuned my friends, we will not relent until there are indictments!!!!

 

If this Prosecutor from Cuyahoga County don’t do his job we know the route in which we need to take next! JUSTICE SHALL PREVAIL, WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF THESE THUGS – BRING IT ON!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We the People Question “The Case” Regarding Brian Garber, there’s a case with no case number?

This question is posed by the people, for the people on facebook. If they do not answer here, maybe they will answer in the MP Group here.

What does this mean?????

What does this mean?????

Kaitlin Quinn Durbin – can you explain the confusion here about the Brian Garber case? Here we say our Prosecutor James Mayer has elected “conflict of interest”, there’s a process for when a Prosecutor wants to give up his job he was Elected to do? We say there’s a case, yet there’s no case number? Now we say a brother “Cuyahoga County Prosecutor” has been assigned? Once again by whom and to what?, there’s STILL no case. Surely this is not to just investigate for this is not his job either, the BCI already did this! Now we have a headline as you see here that this Could land in Richland?, some of us didn’t realize the case which so far don’t exist ever left, confused? Some of us are, because this is not BY LAW how this works! Do we need Randy once again to post how it goes before “the people” realize we have a sham legal process at work here?

Many of us know this can’t be tried here, the unopposed Judge DeWeese will surely preside in the case, once again a case that has no number?

THE MOST OVERTURNED JUDGE IN THE STATE OF OHIO IN WHICH IS DEFAULT BY THE LACK OF “NOBODY” RUNNING AGAINST HIM???? – COME ON!!!!! – EVEN IN ATLANTA THEY KNOW WHAT’S UP????

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Message to Special Prosecutor in Brian Garber’s senseless murder case & more about the next protest by Occupy Mansfield.

Our fair Sheriff put these men back to work in 8 days, it’s been nearing 6 months and the people want to know – WHO KILLED BRIAN, this is NO DIFFERENT than the workplace in the private sector. There is a HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT being put on this Community and enough is enough, people are scared and rightfully so!

This killing was needless to say the least and THEY are making this sound like it was just as this man sat quietly across the street in his parents home. People are led to believe this man was beating people, waving a gun in the street by some who will remain nameless that I have caught saying crap like this! Then you have those who were saying “problem solved” like this was a good thing – wth?

We The People have had plenty of time to study this as long as everyone else, we see you and your County are changing as we want Richland County to do as well! Your CORRUPTION has been all over the news, NOW it’s Mansfield / Richland County’s turn!

WE WANT JUSTICE, AND WE WANT IT NOW! – We have people getting hurt, robbed, harassed every day because of this mentality and we are here to say ENOUGH!

We are asking folks to join us in our fight this coming Thursday, two weeks later after the “Justice for Brian” rally! This will be an ALL INCLUSIVE rally against all corruption and criminal activity that stems from the buildings downtown Mansfield which includes not just the County building our group pointed out. This happens in the Municipal building as well in which our records are CORRUPT! Someone needs to look into the fraud upon the people, maybe a “Special Prosecutor” is needed for the investigation as well? We The People know there’s not a damn thing we can do about it when our fair Elected Prosecutor says and does nothing and we HAVE NO CHOICE? – RUNS UNOPPOSED every election since inception.

YES – WE HAVE RECORDS TAMPERING HERE TOO, WHO’S GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT IS THE QUESTION? – WHO SHALL THE PEOPLE CALL FOR THIS INVESTIGATION?

We have at least one person who can prove this fraud, yet NOBODY here listens – WHY?

Well my friends, its time to get answers to this, will the MEDIA be there to cover the event? Occupy Mansfield is putting on this event, like their page whether you are attending or not, or come to Mansfielders Perspective on facebook to see more about what this is about, BUILDING TRUE COMMUNITY where nobody’s perspective is more important than the other, personal attacks on PRIVATE CITIZENS will not be tolerated. If you have a political view or person you want to attack, have at it! WE WANT ANSWERS!!!! – The ONLY WAY to get these answers is to attack those in charge of this! You can’t blame me and others for what’s happening, it’s those who have led us to this place, time to get self sufficiency and taking care of each other back into our communities before its too late!

Here’s a resource of all that’s wrong with Mansfield / Richland County – just follow the many tabs and you will see we are at WAR WITH CORRUPTION / DECEPTION – Are you tired of the Narcissists and Sociopaths yet? IF SO, THEN JOIN US!!!!!

Follow the MP blog page for updates here in case you missed the link on  the MP website!

JOIN OCCUPY MANSFIELD PROTEST ON 911, MANSFIELD SQUARE – DETAILS HERE

THIS EVENT WILL NOT BE ABOUT “ONE ISSUE” BUT WILL INFORM ABOUT ALL THAT IS WRONG HERE, THIS EVENT WILL HAVE SPEAKERS IN CENTRAL PARK

It’s time we hold these people ACCOUNTABLE for what’s happening here!

James Mayer our Prosecutor

James Mayer our Prosecutor

Our Sheriff Steve Sheldon

Our Sheriff Steve Sheldon

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Judge James DeWeese – the 10 commandments depends on who you are hand slapping Judge. Costs us MILLIONs in overturned cases and lawsuits.

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