Why all the SECRET’s in Richland County Ohio? – Drew Tyler should love this!!!!

 

First we have SECRET PUBLIC MEETINGS which caused the event on July 9th in which THEY SAY was planned, but how can we find them believable now that the UNEDITED 47 MINUTE VIDEO has went viral, over 1 million views in total between Photograhy’s Not a Crime and World Star Hip Hop, links below!

The we have SECRET MEETINGS on July 10th and July 13th that even Judges have issue with, what about the people who believe THEY can’t have secret meetings with OUR ELECTED JUDGES, can any of the people speak to a Judge Privately? – This answer is NO!, so how can we have ALL ELECTED BRANCHES IN ONE MEETING INCLUDING THE SEPARATION OF POWERS, THE CLERK WHO IS THE DIVISION OF POWERS? These are ALL questions that still need to be answered.

Then we have a SECRET special grand jury session just for this Independent reporter.

Now we find out they have selected Special Prosecutors for this case, along with a RETIRED JUDGE? Ironically it is said these prosecutors and this Judge are a road show that hears most cases like this, my guess is to suppress the truth because we can’t get to them like our officials can access the powers to be in a secret meeting, WHY many are not asking WHY is beyond me? No, I don’t claim to have the answers – I just have questions like others THEY WILL NOT ANSWER, on the record anyways, any other time its the misleading answers like “we don’t think that’s how it is”, or “we will get back to you” – THIS NEVER HAPPENS, that’s why I believe THEY PLANNED this event to further their agenda of SECRECY! I don’t know, neither does anyone else, WHY? – Because they won’t go on the record to answer! – If we REALLY WANT TO MEND MANSFIELD don’t you think the people deserve it?

Now I digress and wait like everyone else – will we hear the TRUTH for once, or will there be a DEAL for Mikes illegal actions for THEIRS? None the less we may not get answers now, but we will get them when its over, that’s IF we too are not banned from speaking on the record in the future.

 

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhqo6XU3gErJqlMsaK

Hang in there people, let the distractions go! As far as I am concerned they have lost all credibility once they perpetrated a lie on our great nation as my interview on Fox News explains. Not sure why they are placing the blame once again on the Mansfielders Perspective? They did this before when their infamous mental midget killed himself when he said he had enough!

Speaking of odd and suicide – wasn’t the retired Judge for this case from Stark County where their Prosecutor killed himself as well? This strikes me as odd, and poses more questions of collusion that need answered. IF I were Mikes council I would be looking to have a WHOLE OTHER group of special secret everything to look at this case! Maybe the Sheriff can re-establish an Independent Grand Jury for this case, he has the POWER you know to do this, ALL he needs is the people to back him in this endeavor. You want to RETORE JUSTICE in your community? THEN GET RID OF ALL THE SECRETS!!!!

Drew Tyler their fictitious mouthpiece is at it again and I am not entertaining giving this loon anymore attention than needed. Just as OUR Prosecutor perpetrated a lie that has since been PROVEN I can hear Drews excuses now. This clown says I said they are many people?, well he is…how can that be? When you’re a metaphor who speaks for the corrupt you will take on many faces as this narcissistic sociopath does. I assure YOU if we were to EVER find out who Drew Tyler really is you would be surprised at the CONnection.

Check out some of this loons latest posts and you will see why there’s only one you can believe, ME! I am as real as coming to where I work like my stalker claims they have done many times, kind of scary not knowing this person is free to roam, harass, intimidate, yet as they say LAW ENFORCEMENT will do nothing? IF not now then when, when he puts a bullet in my back as promised? He called my work in 2012, and OPD said they had no way to track the call, now he has come to my group with many phony aliases to make this group of truth look bad. IF you are curious then check out the latest comments here on my blog site, the only place they will comment now because its anonymous and I am uncertain IF their ip addresses used are masked as well?

Here is the latest from this goon, one of them I might add – find Drew Tyler and you end corruption once and for all!

I have also INCLUDED the ip addresses these posts were made under, maybe IF they are ever checked out we may find our fictitious metaphoric speaker of lies?

http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/first-a-special-prosecutor-now-a-special-judge-in-the-mike-skidmore-case-could-it-be-another-outside-cover-up-or-will-richland-county-corruption-be-coming-to-a-close/

Drew Tyler
drewtyler19@yahoo.com
71.72.65.47

Drew Tyler
drewtyler19@yahoo.com
50.51.3.208

http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/john-kasich-is-who-we-need-to-settle-the-case-of-who-attacked-who-in-a-public-meeting-july-9th-the-local-media-is-sure-spinning-it/

Drew Tyler
drewtyler19@yahoo.com
71.72.65.47

Drew Tyleer
Drewtyler19@yahoo.com
50.51.3.208

http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/another-perspective-from-inside-the-richland-county-courthouse-another-view-they-dont-want-you-to-read-as-they-demonize-the-public-who-showed-up-for-their-meeting/

Drew Tyler
drewtyler19@yahoo.com
71.72.65.47

http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/skidmore-indicted-on-six-counts-hearing-canceled-and-media-does-it-again-smh/

Drew Tyleer
Drewtyler19@yahoo.com
50.51.3.208

http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/craigslist-post-about-the-mp-have-the-people-in-this-country-gone-mad-or-is-this-just-another-coward-liberal-spewing-hate-for-something-once-again-they-do-not-know/

Drew Tyler
drewtyler19@yahoo.com
71.72.65.47

Drew Tyleer
Drewtyler19@yahoo.com
50.51.3.208

http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/michael-skidmore-suspected-of-planning-courthouse-fight-or-was-it-the-other-way-around/

Drew Tyleer
Drewtyler19@yahoo.com
50.51.23.225

You want to see the HISTORY of this clown you can find much much more that proves the elected heads metaphor is their SECRET spinner of truth here – http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/?s=drew+tyler

Surely this dud will be speaking on this as well, the issue becomes…who do you believe? One who is a metaphor, or one that you know is very real who can be easily found. I hide from nobody even when people say I should, what does that mean?

Answer these questions my friends, and you will have found the truth!

Please comment, each and every perspective is greatly appreciated – except Drew Tyler of coarse the anonymous speaker who can’t back one thing they say without SECRECY – Now that’s ROTFLMAO!

Drew will surely be pissed when he/she see’s this they will once again RUN FOR THE HILLS – Just like when the MP group exposed his/her fake facebook account – https://www.facebook.com/drew.tyler.54?fref=ts

Let the metaphor speak, THEY are proving one voter at a time who needs to go!

Funny! – this guy wants to run for Sheriff? – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heHMPA3WWsI

I thought the old wives tale was the apple don’t fall far from the tree? They say dad had a mental illness that caused James to shoot himself? Then this Sheriff wanna be’s brother was fired by the State, then hired by our hand picked Prosecutor Bambi Couch Page as a SECRET SERVICE PRIVATE EYE? – There’s that secret crap again, and people think I’m crazy???? – WOW!!! – This blog has the link to this BS, UNBELIEVABLE!!!! – http://blog.mansfieldersperspective.com/is-the-mnj-serious-about-hiring-john-mayer-as-an-investigator/

 

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First a Special Prosecutor, NOW a Special Judge in the Mike Skidmore case? Could it be another outside cover up, or will Richland County corruption be coming to a close?

 

The MNJ Article after we noticed October 5th there is a pretrial set, yet there has been no report on it? Now there is…

Lets take a look at it shall we?

Visiting judge, special prosecutors chosen for Skidmore case

Visiting Judge Richard Reinbold and special prosecutors Brad L. Tammaro and Margaret B. Tomaro have been selected by the Ohio Attorney General’s Office in the Michael Skidmore case, set for pretrial at 10 a.m. Oct. 5 in Richland County Common Pleas Court, according to court records.” MNJ Reports

“Skidmore, who is accused of striking the two guards July 9 while they were attempting to detain him during a commissioners meeting, was indicted on six counts and arrested in July after a special session of the Richland County grand jury.” – Oh glory, why can’t you just show the video on how it all went down? Let the people see that this is not exactly how it all went down, and keep in mind it was FIRST SAID Mr Skidmore was told to leave, maybe why there’s a need for a Special Jury, Special Prosecutor, and now a Special Judge to take the cloud of corruption off this County? Well folks I will tell you, this is HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH IT! None the less IF a deal is not made there will be huge issues that will arise from this, like the TRUTH!!!! They called for an executive session is one detail they are leaving out, then there’s the detail that the incident was caused by a NO SPEAKING UNMARKED UNAMED SECURITY GUARD who had a gun in a public meeting where none are to be. Read the sign on the front of this building, NO GUNS BEYOND THIS POINT – NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

No GUNS COUNTY BUILDINGSo when will this so-called guard be charged????

“According to the indictment, Skidmore was officially charged with four felonies and two misdemeanor charges.

The felonies included two counts of felonious assault for “knowingly causing serious physical harm” to Richland County courthouse security officers Chuck Kochis and Timothy Norris.

He was also charged with two first-degree misdemeanor counts of assault, one for each guard.

Kochis was bitten on the cheek during the incident and Norris was struck repeatedly in the head, according to the indictment. The attack led Norris to fire his gun, which struck a wall.

A third felony count was handed down for inducing panic by causing the evacuation of the Richland County Administration Building. The fourth was for obstructing official business by preventing, obstructing or delaying performance by a public official.

“The offense created a risk of physical harm to Richland County Commissioners,” the indictment said.” – All of this could have been avoided IF they had done what they said they said in early reports that this man was told to leave, being I was there and being considered an none credible witness because we were first alleged to be a group there to cause harm and this was planned? If this was PLANNED by anyone it was planned by the Commissioners and their fearless lying leader the Prosecutor which allows minions to speak for them, see earlier videos made that they allege are part of a more sinister plan, cracks me up on how the spin doctors work, quite the opposite as Mikes only plan was to expose the laws they are breaking and intimidation practices when trying to retrieve public records  – see Mikes Videos here, what he was EXPOSING is what they are now trying to cover up. The TRUTH is Mike had nothing to hide all the while THEY did. Why else did the guard simply come in, no commands to leave, and then go straight for the mans camera? Because he just caught on video a group of CONspirators who have taken over our County, that’s why! 

These trumped up charges are all part of the norm, something they did, BLAME on others like Mike and the many smear campaigns that Mansfielders Perspective is behind this? HEY DREW TYLER – PROVE IT! We have already proved you and others including the media are behind the many frauds perpetrated upon the people.

LET THE TRIAL BEGIN, NO DEALS OR THE PEOPLE WILL KNOW YOU ARE ALL FRAUDS!!!!

More about the man the media will not tell you about; Mike Skidmore is a 30 year retired prison guard, knows the law, and knows they have no procedures to back up their lies. Mike was also a Marine who came through with yes a promise, IF these unlawful goons touch him as you see they touched first unwarranted how they will use Stacy Crall the perpetrator of lies as Mike being inappropriate behavior.

Fox 8 Interview 7/13/15 – The public DEMANDS ANSWERS!!!!

A citizen speaks, CLEARLY see’s the fault elsewhere the media so easily ignores?

FULL 47 MINUTE VIDEO THE BCI HAS A COPY OF, SO YOU THINK ITS BEEN EDITED? ASK THE BCI FOR THE ORIGINAL WE WILL FIND SUPPRESSED BY THIS OR ANY JUDGE, JUST WATCH AND SEE! – Surely they are not happy this video made it out of that room, A MUST WATCH!!! – As you will see at the 4 minute mark once they saw who has showed up for this meeting they called for executive session which was not on the agenda we received. So if anyone is at fault for obstructing business or inducing panic it would be our elected heads who were pulling a fast one once again on the public looking for answers.

PINAC Mike Skidmore

PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT A CRIME!

UNLESS YOU RECORD PUBLIC MEETINGS

AND

PUBLIC OFFICIALS CAUGHT LYING

JOIN THE TRUTH GROUP – MP

MANSFIELDERS PERSPECTIVE – WHERE TRUTH PREVAILS!

MANSFIELDERS PERSPECTIVE ON FACEBOOK

MANSFIELDERS PERSPECTIVE – THE WEBSITE

SO, YOU DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH, AND YOU RATHER LISTEN TO THEIR FICTITIOUS DREW TYLER?

THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO READ THE NAACP LEADER WAYNE MCDOWELL’S 3 PAGE LETTER TO THE BCI?

IF YOU CAN GET A MEDIA COMPANY WHO WILL SHARE???

 

 

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A compelling story, and history if you will of Mansfield.

 

Interesting read. I wonder if this Chief Kyler is related to the Scott Kyler of RCCLSG Richland County Common Law Study Group? Plus we see a little Spognardi History as well. 😉

A Witch Hunt at Amateur Hour

Published in Tearoom (Los Angeles: 2nd Cannons, 2008).
 
I. “…it is logical to assume that this is no local phenomenon, although this is possibly the first place where it has been so shockingly and authentically documented.”
— anonymous editorial in the Mansfield News-Journal, August 22, 1962
 
Over the course of three weeks during the summer of 1962, the city of Mansfield, Ohio produced an hour-long film of men having sex in a public restroom. Intended for use as evidence in a court of law, the untitled film has thus far been the only one of its type to reach a wider audience. The Mansfield Police Department publicized its efforts in developing new investigative techniques and produced the how-to film Camera Surveillance with some of its footage. No other police department followed Mansfield’s example. The operation required more money (for film stock and equipment) and more manpower (for hours of surveillance work) than any city was willing to commit to tracking down perpetrators of a non-violent crime. Even law enforcement officers who admired Mansfield Police’s ingenuity must have wondered why the department had gone to such lengths to arrest and convict a group of men having sex with one another. Mansfield prosecuted its cases only a few years before the decriminalization of sodomy, first in Illinois, then in many other states, including Ohio.
A unique set of circumstances made the production of this film possible. Earlier that summer, a man named Jerrell R. Howell had molested two young girls in a Mansfield park. When the girls attempted to escape from him, he grabbed them and stomped them to death. Police apprehended him within hours, and he quickly confessed to the crime. In a defiant gesture probably calculated to take others down with him, Howell taunted the police for not knowing what was happening in the very center of their community. He said he had gotten his first blow job — presumably the act that initiated his criminal career — in the men’s room under Mansfield’s Central Park. Hoping to diffuse public outrage at a savage crime and playing on what was then a popular belief in the connection between child molestation and homosexuality, Chief of Police Clare Kyler decided to crack down on “sex deviants.” In this atmosphere of heightened vigilance, one particular vigilante, Richard Wayman, stepped forward to help the police, and his contribution was crucial.
Wayman, the director of a non-profit organization called Highway Safety Foundation, donated film and offered the foundation’s cameras to the Mansfield Police for use in its surveillance operation. Highway Safety Foundation had previously achieved notoriety by producing and circulating instructional films featuring gory images of car accidents. Views of this carnage were intended to scare young spectators into driving safely. The most complete history of the organization can be seen in Bret Wood’s documentaryHell’s Highway.
Richard Wayman’s role in Highway Safety Foundation, his character and motivations, as well as the decline of the organization, remain controversial even now. Former Mansfield Chief of Police John Butler defends Wayman in his memoir The Best Suit in Town. Private investigator and former Mansfield journalist Martin Yant, in his book Rotten to the Core, tells a far less flattering story. (Both Butler and Yant are interviewed inHell’s Highway, and their complete disagreement is one of the best passages in the film.) The various accounts of Wayman’s activities differ so much that it is impossible to form a precise impression of him. Apparently, Wayman himself preferred it that way. He seemed to combine in equal measure aspects of two great American types, the concerned citizen and the confidence man.
Wayman was an insomniac and amateur photographer who, like some Midwestern vernacular Weegee, listened to a police radio and went out with officers on calls. His main interest was car accidents, and he eventually obtained permission to visit the scenes of gruesome crashes. When asked about Wayman’s special relationship with law enforcement in Hell’s Highway, John Butler, not given to rhetorical flourishes or references to J. G. Ballard and Krafft-Ebing, answered simply, “he just liked police,” with a trace of impatience. Butler’s tone suggests a wish to hide his bending of department rules for Wayman, who as a civilian wasn’t supposed to be riding around in patrol cars. Perhaps Butler’s tone also betrays something else, a realization about how peculiar his friend’s behavior appeared to outsiders. In the many years since Wayman made his impression on Mansfield, Butler has had time to reflect upon the impulses behind his friend’s activities, and doubts may have formed about the purity of Dickie Wayman’s motives.
With the equipment borrowed from Wayman, Mansfield Police Officer Bill Spognardi, assisted by Officer Dick Burton, photographed activities in the Central Park men’s room from behind a two-way mirror. Spognardi’s reflection is visible in this mirror at intervals in the film, especially when the scene is dark. Spognardi was responsible for the filmmaking decisions: camera angles (quite limited, since he was hiding in a confined space), camera movement, and duration of shots. Markings on the leaders of the film indicate that he exposed only one 100-foot roll of film stock, lasting 2 minutes and 45 seconds, per day. The element of choice — Spognardi’s — has an importance not previously mentioned in accounts of the case. The cameraman often filmed activities he thought might lead to sex but didn’t; sometimes he filmed other moments that simply caught his attention. The film includes images of men combing their hair and washing their hands, as well as a shot of a man positioning a transistor radio to find the best reception. There are also images of children, including a boy grabbing a newspaper from a trash can, and boys hiding out to smoke cigarettes. Spognardi’s training had prepared him to see evidence of child molestation. When a man in a toilet stall exposed himself to one of the boys, the investigation came to a hasty conclusion. Spognardi could not film this violation, because his position did not afford him a clear view inside the stalls. The most serious crime — the sort of act the police had expected to film, the one involving a child — thus remained invisible.
What is missing from the police film exerts its own fascination. Officer Spognardi did not photograph the hours of dead time; the fleeting conversations between men cruising for sex; and quite possibly the activities of men he knew but preferred not to implicate, or men too powerful to offend. There is no reverse angle, no image of the cameraman’s reaction to seeing men touch each other while he observed them unseen. At certain moments the film reveals this reaction indirectly, as when a particularly attractive young man in a white t-shirt lowers his pants for a man in a stall, and the camera tilts up and down frenetically. On a couple of occasions, it is just possible to discern in the mirror an image of Spognardi licking his lips.
Spognardi’s response to what he filmed might lead some to conclude that he was gay. Nothing could be further from the truth. In the Mansfield of 1962, only a man considering himself normal in every respect would allow himself to participate in such an elaborately perverse scenario. In that place and time, no gay man would feel safe enough (or secure enough in his self-hatred) to enjoy this level of complicity with authority. A man’s reputation could suffer only so much speculation in Mansfield, which was a far cry from the Washington of J. Edgar Hoover or the New York City of Roy Cohn. Of course, even men who feel completely normal let their curiosity get the better of them from time to time, and there have been many vice cops who, like Mae West, could resist anything but temptation. In the words of the prosecuting attorney, “sending uniformed or plainclothes officers into the restroom for frequent observation produced no results.” On the present topic — the thoughts and feelings of a man in a closet filming other men masturbating and having sex — we cannot speak of that which we do not know.
 
II.
“The sex pervert, in his more inoculous [sic] form, is too frequently regarded as merely a queer individual who never hurts anyone but himself.”
— narration from Camera Surveillance
 
The question of who was actually gay among the suspects in the Central Park men’s room is one that, regardless of so much visual evidence of sodomy, will probably never be answered with any certainty. As many as a third of the men arrested were married, and most of them had children. Still others must have been sexually active with men exclusively, but were loath to call themselves gay. It is difficult, if not impossible, for modern spectators to find self-identified gay men in this film of sexual activities, but the authorities who dealt with these men at the time and in person had much less trouble. It is very likely that they singled out anyone acting like “a queer individual” (to use the words of Camera Surveillance’s anonymous narrator) for especially harsh treatment.
If some suspects got the book thrown at them, others got off comparatively lightly. Otho Thomas, an African American man 48 years old at the time of his arrest, challenged the right of the state to prosecute him, and lost on appeal to the Ohio Supreme Court. If anyone can be said to have survived the tearoom bust with reputation intact, it was Otho Thomas. He was a married man, and remained married to the same woman, living in the same house, long after his imprisonment. He was a church deacon in 1962, and be became one again after his parole. He died in Mansfield at age 93. (This information comes from Kevin Jerome Everson, who interviewed people in Mansfield, his hometown, in 2007. He found a number of older men who knew about the Central Park tearoom, but none of them would admit to having been inside the place, for fear of being called gay.) Though Otho Thomas seemed to have experienced the least disruption in his personal life, he nonetheless served his full sentence: one year and six days, first at the Ohio Penitentiary, then at the Mansfield Correctional Institution.
By comparing the mug shots in Camera Surveillance, the unedited evidence footage, and the prisoner registers of the Ohio Penitentiary and State Reformatory, one can identify two men by name: Vernon Sheeks and Roger Pifer. In these two cases, the prison records have faces, as well as names and numbers, associated with them. Both men received harsh sentences; one with an obvious legal justification, the other with none.
Of all the men arrested, Vernon Sheeks served as an exemplary figure, since his case “proved” the connection that the police insisted on making between child molestation and homosexuality. He was 51 years old and single at the time of his arrest. Sheeks had been arrested on a charge of sex perversion in Los Angeles 17 years before and had just been released after four years in the Ohio Penitentiary for assault upon a minor. The evidence film shows him receiving anal sex from two men. Unlike the rest of the suspects, he was charged with two counts of sodomy carrying a sentence of 2 to 40 years in prison. After his conviction, he was held as a psychopath at Lima State Hospital for nearly two years. He subsequently served five and a half years of prison time, first at the Ohio Penitentiary, then at the Mansfield Correctional Institution. Vernon Sheeks was the last of the men arrested in the Mansfield tearoom busts to get his final release from parole, in December 1971, over nine years after his arrest.
Roger Pifer, age 29 and single at the time of his arrest, had no criminal record, yet was held at Lima State Hospital as a psychopath. He was transferred to the Ohio State Reformatory in the spring of 1964. The O. S. R. prisoner register contains no more details of his sentence, but if he was committed immediately after conviction, he spent a year and a half in psychiatric treatment. After being deemed sane enough to join the general prison population by a state psychiatrist, Pifer served his one year sentence.
In the evidence film, there is a record of what Roger Pifer did to deserve his punishment. He engaged in conversation on one occasion, then on another day, he either masturbated or gave a man a hand job; from the camera’s vantage point, it is difficult to determine which. The most incriminating activity captured on film is Pifer briefly performing oral sex on Sheeks, a man who, in the film, is passive in all his other sexual acts. Pifer’s trips to the tearoom — two poorly documented and a third during which he gave a recently released sex offender a blow job — merited nearly three years of treatment and incarceration. Perhaps a confession while in police custody or his behavior in court made matters worse for him. In the absence of any better explanation, it is reasonable to conclude that acting queer got Roger Pifer in trouble.
Although the dispositions of the Mansfield cases are not completely documented, the records suggest disparities in the sentences of various suspects not entirely explicable by their prior convictions. These disparities may not constitute a pattern. But if one accepts that acting queer — not being married, taking a passive role in sex, and perhaps confessing a gay past, talking back to the presiding judge, or merely looking a bit odd — had serious consequences in at least one case, it is important to consider why that happened. The vague psychological term “homophobia” seems inadequate to describe what was in effect a political strategy.
From a point of view more humane than that of a moral entrepreneur or a law enforcement dupe, the Mansfield tearoom busts have an aspect of grotesque disproportion. With the hidden camera, the round-the-clock arrests, and a coda of self-righteous editorials, the whole affair, while strictly defensible in the eyes of the law in that specific time and place, looks more like a witch hunt at amateur hour. A bunch of policemen, given carte blanche by a public out for blood in the wake of a brutal murder, peeped on some marginal characters, perfect scapegoats who had no way of justifying themselves, and made a movie of their activities. As this nightmare unfolded for the participants, the ones who flashed a wedding ring or presented a suitably deferential demeanor received the mandatory minimum sentence, a year in prison, which was already barbaric. The real gay men — the ones who had no political clout or even a decent bar to frequent; the ones who knew that no man can truly be as normal as he says he is; in other words, the ones most able to recognize the situation in its naked idiocy — received psychiatric treatment for homosexuality, followed by at least one year in prison, with no possibility of probation. After courses of psych meds and electro-shock, these gay men were supposed to have learned their lesson, obedience to authority in thought as well as deed, if in fact they could still remember their own names.
 
III.
“The restrooms were closed after this investigation and later were filled in with dirt.”
— The Best Suit in Town by former Mansfield Chief of Police John Butler
 
Mansfield Police Officers Spognardi and Burton were almost the last people to use the Central Park men’s room. After the place was closed to the public, they marked measurements in chalk on the walls, filmed themselves walking through the space, and revealed the cameraman’s hiding place. One of them poked a finger in the peep hole between the first stall and the urinal. After Spognardi and Burton, the men’s room received a few more visitors in the fall of 1962. Prosecutor William McKay explained, “The initial juries were given a view of the restroom involved. This did not appear to materially aid the trial.” A chalkboard diagram showing the positions of the urinals, the stalls and the men conducting surveillance was found to be sufficient for the jurors.
When the restrooms were of no further use to Mansfield, the city destroyed them with blunt brutality. Exterior structures were demolished, and underground rooms were filled with earth, so that no trace of the tearoom site remained.
Since the 1960s, Mansfield, like other industrial cities in Ohio, has become a virtual ghost town. Most of the factories that once dominated Mansfield’s economy stand empty, and the downtown area surrounding Central Park shows few signs of life. Hotels and banks have moved to the edge of the city near the highway, Route 30. To all appearances, the world has changed and left Mansfield behind.
In an attempt to draw visitors to downtown Mansfield, the city has encouraged the construction of monuments in Central Park. Traditional memorials dedicated to Johnny Appleseed (once a resident of Mansfield) and to fallen soldiers of the Civil War and the World Wars have been joined by more recent structures. The visual clutter of so many monuments attracts few tourists. The travelers who do exit the highway in Mansfield tend to visit the formal gardens of Kingwood Center or the garish dioramas of the Living Bible Museum. A large Korean War memorial bearing the inscription “Freedom Is Not Free” now occupies the ground over the former restrooms.
No memorial exists to acknowledge the men convicted in the Mansfield tearoom busts, though their cases bring attention to the city to this day. The people directly involved in the episode have their ways of deflecting serious inquiries: tasteless jokes, feigned ignorance, silence. City officials would rather not endure the scrutiny of those who take a dim view of Mansfield’s zeal in eradicating deviance. They have not yet acquired the cynicism or amnesia that would enable them to transform the most shameful chapter of their city’s history into an attraction. There are now guided tours of the old Ohio State Reformatory building, where a number of the convicted men served their sentences. Perhaps some enterprising soul will see the visitors to the site of Senator Larry Craig’s 2007 arrest at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport and be moved to re-make the design of Central Park to accommodate a tearoom memorial. Presenting such a proposal would be a challenge to even the most fanatical civic booster.
Mansfield’s Central Park tearoom has been buried but not forgotten. The scars associated with this place still persist, even on the land itself. In one corner of Central Park, next to the Korean War memorial and across from the building that was once the Leland Hotel, lies a circle of dead grass. The small geometric pattern with a diameter roughly equal to the height of a man was plainly visible on August 22, 2007, the 45th anniversary of the tearoom arrests. It brings to mind a line delivered by Paulette Goddard in The Women: “Where I spit, no grass grows ever.” This dead spot looks like the result of the convicted men taking a cue from Goddard and protesting at the site where they fell into a police trap. The circle of dead grass may be gone in a season, but for now, it serves as the marker of a small-scale earthwork, an anti-monument commemorating the most famous events that ever occurred in Mansfield, Ohio.

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So, the Mansfield News Journal makes claims they do not discriminate when it comes to “Letters to the Editor” – THIS MUST BE AN EXCEPTION because in involved the TRUTH about the July 9th shooting in the Richland County public meeting?

 

I heard through the rumor mill that Wayne McDowell of the local NAACP who attended the July 9th meeting with others has a “PERSPECTIVE” on what he saw and various other issues, 3 pages to be exact that the Mansfield News Journal REFUSES to print depicting it is too long???? – What will it take for Mr Wayne McDowell to be heard? I offered to print his letter here but there is FEAR of credibility? Say what?????? – there is no more credibility than the Mansfielders Perspective where the ONLY ONE who will refute us on the record is a fictitious metaphor made up by the Elected heads who will speak for them. I have discredited their mouthpiece Drew Tyler first by outing on facebook here. Now the ONLY PLACE this clown can and will speak is on these blogs under the same anonymous metaphor. Ask yourselves, why don’t Drew Tyler come out of hiding and PROVE ALL THEIR BS, now that won’t happen and why they are trying to have this group on facebook discredited – the TRUTH shall prevail – :-)

To be fair to the MNJ it appears the TRUTHFUL one who said posts ALL LETTERS appears to no longer being a part of their staff, at least I could not find Ms Gere Goble on their directory found here?

Must have fired her for this?

One thing I tossed when I cleaned out my desk drawer last week was the documentation concerning a letter to the editor controversy that took place while I worked at another paper.
I followed policy when we received the letter: I called the telephone number provided and confirmed that person had written the letter. I confirmed the address. I knew the letter would irritate some people, but a newspaper’s open forum is just that: open.
Well, I was right: The letter did irritate people. People with a big advertising budget. People who wanted me fired for running that letter.
The letter was not libelous. It addressed a matter of legitimate public interest. I was completely comfortable with my decision … Until my boss told me someone had questioned whether that letter-writer really existed. Her name wasn’t in the phone book, and when I called the provided number again, I was not able to reach her.
The woman who answered the phone said the letter-writer lived at that address “sometimes.” Gulp.
I was not fired over the incident, but my relationship with my boss was irreparably damaged.
I got into some hot water because I could not identify the letter-writer — but for her, the price of coming forward would have been much greater.
Whoever had written the letter was using me as a shield. Had the advertiser been able to identify her, I suspect she would have been sued.
She would have won the case, had it come to that — the letter clearly was not libelous. But rich people can afford lawyers. Most of us can’t.
I mean, it worked out OK for me. I eventually ended up at the News Journal, working for a company that does not refuse to publish letters to the editor for fear of angering advertisers. (I’ve been with Gannett for more than 20 years, and never seen it happen. In my experience, if advertisers know that sort of thing NEVER happens, they stop asking, and they understand they are being treated fairly.)
A few years ago, I started seeing a person with that letter-writer’s name commenting on Facebook posts. The woman who lived at the given address had signed the letter with her middle and maiden names. I finally knew who had written that letter. I dug the file out of my desk and read it over again. My feelings were still mixed.
But when I found that file last week, I threw it away. Somehow, I’ve finally moved on. I’m no longer concerned about who should have done what. It’s just something that happened.
She knows why I’m writing this post today.

Well???? – What’s up???, ANOTHER SPIN BY THE SPIN DOCTORS?

 

What CRACKS me up? – You ask the majority of people here about the County building fiasco that drew charges against Mike Skidmore and people say what? That’s the PROBLEM, nobody reads the local news because they are tired of being lied to?

WHY IS THAT????

rotten2 THE CORE

THERE’S A MOVIE COMING, CAN’T WAIT!!!!!

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Oh Tell us old great Wizard of Oz, how can a meeting of this magnitude happen anyways?

 

Commissioner apologizes for meeting exclusion

Judge Cockley, this is the very question “THE PEOPLE” should be asking as well, WHY ARE THE PEOPLE EXCLUDED from their regularly meeting July 9th? There was NO EXECUTIVE SESSION on the agenda until REAL PEOPLE, with REAL QUESTIONS for the record showed up, yet many people believe its their meeting, WTH???

 WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO QUESTION IS…HOW IN THE HELL CAN THIS MUCH POWER BE ALLOWED TO MEET IN SECRECY WIHTOUT KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS BEING SAID TO THESE JUDGES? I PROTEST THE FACT OF LAWFULNESS THAT EACH AND EVERY JUDGE MUST SPEAK THRU THEIR JOURNAL – WAS RANDY SHEPHERD RIGHT THAT THIS IS HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH CORRUPTION IN THE COURTS???? – VERY SCARY PEOPLE, NOW WE KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE SCARED WITH JUST CAUSE, AND WE LABEL THEM MENTALLY ILL AND PARANOID??? – WOW!!!!

“I am concerned that Commissioner Wert absolutely ignored the fact that two judges — also attorneys by definition — believed that they were legally entitled to participate in a meeting and excluded them from participation without any consideration,” she wrote in an email to the News Journal. “I am concerned that Commissioner Wert would make a decision to exclude Judge Mayer and I without even contacting the county prosecutor to get her opinion about the legality of doing so.” – That’s ok Judge Cockley, we had questions for our meeting on July 9th too! Maybe you can ask them WHY BY LAW their bonds are NOT properly filed, making them squatters by law and any issues like “Executive Session” ILLEGAL by Law?

Please answer the question here for the record can you? I have noticed you signed off on one bond, is that legal for it does clearly depict under ORC that the Probate Judge (Phil Mayer) is the one who approves their bonds. We are SICK OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND SECRECY, so lets go on the record here since we can’t TRUST anything filed by the Clerk.

Read their minutes for the July 9th meeting, read the fraud out of the prosecutors office, then watch the 47 minute video and tell me where you see ANYONE out of order prior to the thug with a gun entered this room un-announced (TRUTH) and tried to steal ones property in front of God and the World, can you give us YOUR Perspective on this? After all I am crazy and unbelievable because the media has helped spin the web of deception and truth in this matter.

What the people need to ask now it why non MP member Wayne McDowell is not allowed to have his 3 page letter posted in the paper? Can we get some donations $$$$ to allow room for NAACP Member to speak? After all the story has to side with corruption, and since it does not we should DEMAND that Mr DcDowell is heard. I am interested in seeing his Perspective FROM THE INSIDE, how about you?

PLEASE DREW TYLER SPEAKER FOR CORRUPTION, HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL THE TRUTH, OR ARE YOU STILL ROTFLMAO BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT’S GETTING BLOCKED TOP TO BOTTOM BECAUSE IT’S A CONSPIRACY????

Yes, Drew, I will get back to slinging those washing machines. The infamous anonymous’s famous words, now that’s ROTFLMAO.

Deception, Deception, Deception – it begins with taking away Mikes Right to a Speedy Trial – The mainstay of HOW Corruption here works, because the people here have SHORT MEMORIES.

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READ JULY 9TH MINUTES – THEN WATCH THE TRUTH IN THIS 47 MINUTEVIDEO – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh5-Zc6e0e8

THE BIG DECEPTION HERE IS TO LEAD THE PUBLIC THAT THEIR SERVANTS ARE IN DANGER!

THE TRUTH IS….THIS PUTS LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IN JEOPARDY. THE OLD SAYING GOES…THEY CAN CONVICT A PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICH IF THEY WANT.

WHO’S NEXT????

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Do you know how to recognize spin, helpful sites 😉

 
This is a good website. I teach my friends about fallacies, critical & logical thinking. These fallacies are probably things you already know but I thought I’d pass this along just in case. There is a very powerful quote by Edward Bernays that should be worked into your blog site. 
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Spotting Spin

The Lies Before Your Eyes

28 Tricks of the Trade



Media Spin D20a


Think of a spider spinning it’s web to trap it’s prey.   Would you be willing to be tricked into a trap that was likely to be to your disadvantage? Would you like to know how to recognize the almost invisible but very powerful spiders’ webs being spun to capture you each day?

Spiders web spin D20

Like the spider’s web, the type of “Spin” we are talking about today uses deception. Individuals, specific groups or the general public are the intended victims.

Advertising and public relations activities which are truthful and either do not use deception (or at worst use “white” lies) are not regarded as spin. See: http://www.truthliesdeceptioncoverups.info/2014/07/categories-of-lies-white-lies-grey-lies.html

“Spin” refers to the forms of marketing  and public relations that use trickery and psychological manipulation. It developed out of military propaganda techniques. It refers to deceptive methods used to create a desired impression upon people; or to create a desired action (or prevent an action) by a person, group of people or the general public. Spin is spun in response to, or in preparation for something. The focus of spin-doctors tends to be on either promoting or covering up the actions of their employers (or doing both of these). 
Propaganda squealer pigs D20
Spinners of the “Spin” form of marketing and public relations are also referred to as “Spin-Doctors” (which sounds a bit better than spiders). George Orwell’s “Squealer Pig” in Animal Farm was a spin-doctor. Spin doctors commonly work behind the scenes – coaching politicians, managers of large organizations (including government) and big businesses; and they often deal with the media on their employer’s behalf. 
Spiders web D20a
The spinner’s of “spin” usually like to keep out of the limelight in order that their employer will appear to be acting honestly and spontaneously (rather than in a carefully orchestrated fashion). That’s a bit like spiders that tend to stay away from their web while they wait for it to catch a victim.  But sometimes spin-doctors do act as the “mouthpiece” for an individual or organization.

Spin-doctors are usually employed by others and what they do is usually on behalf of others. It’s a bit like a boss spider hiring another spider to spin or teach them to spin a web as a trap. While the spinning spider creates the trap, the boss spider consumes the prey. Individuals are also capable of spin-doctoring on their own behalf. Please keep this in mind when reading the rest of this post because I may refer to spin-doctors, spinners and the employers of spin-doctors in the same way because they employ the same techniques. Likewise, because spin arose from propaganda, these terms may be used interchangeably.

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The objectives of spin-doctors most often involves  promotion. The audience is manipulated to: 

  • Buy a product or service, or
  • Vote in a certain way, or 
  • Support a policy such as a war, or an economic decision such as a tax measure, or a change in law; or, 
  • Not support the competition; or, 
  • Not take action that would prevent the spinner having something that he/she wants etc 

Spin-doctors are also commonly involved in damage control or coverups. In these cases the purpose of the spin is to reduce the impact of the negative event, deny it or distract the public away from talking about the problem; and consequently reduce the negative consequences. 

Spin is not limited to any one political party or type of business. Spin-doctors (and those who need spin) make extensive use of all forms of media. Consequently, we are exposed to “spin” on many matters in the media every day.

The lies that were spun to continuously lure people into investing in financial institutions – when their managers knew they were bust – is just one example of the negative consequences of spin. 

blinky nuclear reactor fish D20

Stephen Stockwell, in his article:Spinning the fabric of reality” gives a short insight into spin-doctors in his review of a show from the cartoon serial – The Simpsons – where “Blinky” the three-eyed fish is found near a nuclear power plant. This is from his article:

“When a three-eyed fish is found near Mr Burns’s nuclear power plant, he becomes desperate to roll back health and safety regulation and decides to run for governor. His campaign team boasts not only a spin doctor, a joke writer and a make-up man but also a muck-raker, a character assassin, a mud-slinger and a garbologist. It is the politics of the bottom-feeders.

In the end, despite the spin doctor naming the fish Blinky and coming up with a sterling defence of the creature as an evolutionary necessity, Marge Simpson out-spins them all by serving up the three-eyed fish for Mr Burns’s televised dinner the night before the election. It is a spin doctor’s nightmare when Mr Burns spits out the fish and destroys his credibility on live television.”
https://griffithreview.com/edition-5-addicted-to-celebrity/spinning-the-fabric-of-reality

Media propaganda D20Stockwell’s article also includes a summary of the modern history of spin – introducing some background on the father of public relations – Edward L Bernays. Bernays  worked as a military propagandist for Woodrow Wilson during the first world war. He started using propagandist techniques in advertising and political circles after the war. 

In the 1920s Bernays began to tutor politicians on the use of the media and the “Engineering of Consent.” It was the birth of the non-military use of propaganda (which subsequently became known as “spin”) on the general public. Owing to the negative connotations associated with the word propaganda, Bernays  introduced the term “Public Relations”. “Marketing” became a strong and powerful influence on the general public.  

http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2008/08/31/spin-versus-framing-the-traged/

Controlling the masses D20

Bernays (like despots and authoritarian rulers) felt that the public’s democratic judgment was:

“not to be relied upon” and he feared that “they [the American public] could very easily vote for the wrong man or want the wrong thing, so that they had to be guided from above”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self#CITEREFH.C3.A4ringDouglas2012http://web.archive.org/web/20110514032526/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/century_of_the_self.shtml

Bernays argued in Propaganda (1928), one of his first books. http://www.whale.to/b/bernays.pdf

“If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it” 

Bernays was the nephew of Sigmund Freud. Born in Vienna of Jewish parents, it is ironical

that Bernays believed that manipulation of the masses was necessary. In his 1965 autobiography Bernays recalls a dinner at his home, where he learned that Goebbels (who 

was in charge of propaganda in Nazi Germany) had been using Bernays work as a reference in designing his propaganda campaign against the Jews.

Nazi propaganda D20

“Karl von Wiegand, foreign correspondent of the Hearst newspapers, an old hand at interpreting Europe and just returned from Germany, was telling us about Goebbels and his propaganda plans to consolidate Nazi power.

Goebbels had shown Wiegand his propaganda library, the best Wiegand had ever seen. Goebbels, said Wiegand, was using my book Crystallizing Public Opinion as a basis for his destructive campaign against the Jews of Germany.

This shocked me. … Obviously the attack on the Jews of Germany was no emotional outburst of the Nazis, but a deliberate, planned campaign.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

The Nazi views on propaganda focused on repetition of a simple message:
“But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and important requirement for success.”  
Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. VI (1925)

Hitler was a believer in the power of the “Big Lie” (and believed that other politicians used this technique too.)

“…in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”

Adolf HitlerMein Kampf, vol I, ch. X (1925)

tricks of propaganda D20Joseph Goebbels was appointed Hitler’s propaganda minister in 1933. He also was a believer in the power of lying big and repeating the message:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels 

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/goebbels.html

who pulls the strings D20Bernays also used “Freudian Theory” to deal with the public’s conception of communism. He believed that the American government should not be easing the public’s fear of communism, but rather promote that fear and play with the public’s emotions of it. This theory and his influence was so powerful that it became one of the weapons used during the cold war, and not just in the US.


Bernays coined the term “engineering of consent” to describe his technique for controlling the masses. The “Engineering of Consent” (which is just another name for the the propaganda processes involved in spin) and “Spin” are about manipulating how the public thinks and what they do. 

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society,” Bernays argued.

Intelligent manipulation D20“Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. . . . In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons . . . who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”

 http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1999Q2/bernays.html

When consent is successfully “engineered” the audience/victims are tricked into agreeing to do something (or not do something) by means of deception and psychological manipulation. It is questionable whether or not the audience would have “consented” if they were aware of the fact that they were being deliberately manipulated and were aware of the whole truth. 

What lies straight to our faces D20


In an age of of the right to “Informed Consent”, the hypocrisy of this is rather striking.

While the consequence of marketing spin on consumerism has been dramatic over the past 80 years – so has the consequence of financial and political spin. We are subject to staged “spin” in the news media on a regular basis, and it’s not just in the advertising. We have certainly seen spin implicated in the downfall of the banking system and financial institutions around the world – the victims hooked with lies hidden by spin.  We have also seen it used in the rationalization for actions related to wars, and the rapidly evolving oppressive practices of countries spying not only on the enemy, but upon their own people.


We are also seeing it today in so-called democratic countries where politicians are manipulated to act on behalf of the wants of huge corporations and politicians from other countries – rather than acting on behalf of the general public in their own country. Like the other farm animals in Animal Farm, “spin” is required to manipulate the general public to agree with the government carrying out policies that benefit big business rather than benefit ordinary people.

Propaganda D20


It may be argued that there is a war by stealth going on at present. Terrorism may be a symptom (and is also being used as an excuse to implement oppressive, intrusive and authoritarian measures.) The toppling of banks and financial institutions the world over is also a sign. The related dependence of affected nations on help from huge banks (share-holder owned by huge corporations) and dependence on other countries puts those countries at risk of losing control of their own economy; and following on that loss of job opportunities for it’s citizens and loss of control of natural resources. When these things are lost; loss of independence, and eventually loss of democratic rights and freedoms can be expected to follow. Do not underestimate the importance of this. These matters are of global concern – and the consequences for ordinary citizens in democratic countries is great.

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The public must be fooled to agree with these processes (or tricked so they do not actively object to them.) 

Spin (which is actually propaganda from a military perspective) is making us blind to what is happening. Being blind, we let our governments and big corporations get away with doing things that are unjust and to the detriment of the economy of the ordinary people and detrimental to democracy. Spin has been and continues to be used to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public.
http://www.truthliesdeceptioncoverups.info/2013/04/button-button-cyprus-and-rest-of-us.html
http://www.truthliesdeceptioncoverups.info/2013/03/neoliberalism-porker-politics-porkies.html

The deceptive misinformation and misleading actions of spin-doctors (and their employers) are a major threat to democracy, justice and the economy the world over. 

We need to avoid being tricked by “Spin”.

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Spin Techniques 
(Note: These apply to circumstances where deception is used)
See if you, your family and friends can spot the use of these impression management techniques in marketing, government communication or the various media you use for news:

1. Truthiness (or Half Truths)

  • People who want to deceive do not want their deception to be detected.
  • Although truthiness may be described in different ways, the truthiness we refer to in the context of spin is not the truth but deception. It involves the use of various techniques to hide the deception and create an impression of truthfulness for a person, group or the general public. Truthiness may contain various amounts of truthful facts or no truth at all. 
  • It involves various types of techniques used for “impression management”, some of which you will find below.

2. Dumb down the news (Denials and Avoidance)

  • This technique involves denial and other methods to  avoid answering questions from
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    the media and concerned public. If an issue is not reported, and the general public does not know about it, it’s like it never happened. (Fortunately, good journalists tend to recognize denial spin when they hear it. We should too.)

  • Characterizing the issues as just “rumors” or dismissing the charges as old news and using these as excuses not to comment are other techniques used to put the media and concerned public off the scent.
  • The opposite ploy is claiming the issues are too complex to discuss, and the truth unknowable (with the intent to prevent further pursuit of facts and the truth) and using this as an excuse to avoid the topic.
  • Spinners should be challenged when they use denials and avoidance.
3. Creating a Diversion
  • Changing the subject may be as simple as ignoring the relevant question and changing the subject; or may go so far as to involve creating and publicizing distractions (good or bad) to divert attention from the matters the spinner wants to cover up.
4. Proofiness

Proofiness D20
  • Proofiness is lying with numbers or using incorrect logic deliberately to mislead. 
  • Proofiness can involve: outright lying about numbers; quoting statistics out of context so that they mislead; distorting statistics; or using incorrect logic in order to mislead the audience.
  • Proofiness with numbers or incorrect logic is not just used by unscrupulous spinners in governments, big business and marketing. 
  • Proofiness is unfortunately also used deliberately in some instances in science and medicine (often in the interest of boosting or protecting interests of big businesses etc). As with the censoring of contributions in mainstream media, in some instances editorial and advertising processes in scientific and medical media can inadvertently facilitate the spread of false conclusions arising from proofiness.
5. Using Fallacious (false or incorrect) Logic. 
  • Logical thinking may be correct or incorrect. Incorrect logic (fallacious logic) is common and does not necessarily mean there has been an intent to deceive.
  • When talking about incorrect logic in terms of spin – once again, the intent and the consequences matter.

Logic and Mr. Spock D20

  • Fallacious (incorrect) logic may involve using misleading comparisons (which may have some irrelevant similarities) resulting in a false conclusion. 
  • If the incorrect logic is part of a “spin” then usually the spinner will assert that the logic is correct and true, whereas it is wrong and misleading. 

Example”

Snow is white.
There are no calories in snow.
Sugar is white.
So there are no calories in sugar. 

  • Or fallacious logic may involve incorrect backwards reasoning (inductive reasoning) – where you assume the conclusion is true and reason backward to the (preferred by the spinner) evidence that leads to a false conclusion. Incorrect inductive reasoning can also be used by a spin-doctor to create a misleading illusion of cause and effect for the audience.
Example of incorrect inductive (backward) reasoning:

All of the swans we have seen in New Zealand are black
Therefore all swans in New Zealand are black.

6.  The “Straw Man” Argument Technique 

Straw Man Technique D20

Things made of straw are fairly easy to tear apart. 

The Straw Man Argument technique involves ignoring the opponent’s actual position. Instead, the spinner or propagandist creates a “Straw Man” argument – and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of the opposition’s position and attempts to make the opponent’s stance appear ridiculous. 

Then the spinner attacks the distorted “Straw Man” argument the spinner has created, rather than the opponent’s actual position.
Straw Man Instructions D20
The objective of this technique is to distort the opponent’s argument and hope the audience will not see that this has happened; and mislead the audience into thinking that the opponent’s position is off-the-wall.

The spinner also wants to create the impression that he has won the argument – and that this has been shown by the spinner having torn apart the (non-existent) “Straw Man” which was crafted by the spin-doctor or propagandist (rather than their opposition.


7. How Dare You?

  • This is a variation on the “Straw Man” gambit. It involves avoiding key issues of an opponent’s position and trying to link some side issue in the opponent’s position so that it appears insulting to a given group. This is often accompanied by wrongfully attacking the motives of the opponent.
8. “Hit and Run” 
  • In any public forum the spinner may make a brief attack on the opponent and then disappear before the opponent can reply.

9. Mud-Slinging and Name Calling

  • This is an evasive spin and propagandist technique whereby the spin-doctor side-steps their expected response in an argument or discussion by making a personal attack on their opponent instead of responding to the argument:

eg: “Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he.”

  • This includes belittling opponents by calling them derogatory names or making sarcastic comments about them while avoiding the issues. It may also include questioning their motives (once again diverting attention from the topic of the discussion).
  • This is also what’s going on when a point in an argument or discussion is side-stepped by the spin-doctor by attacking the group the opponent may be associated with, instead of addressing the argument.

10. Appeal to Misleading Authority

Quack Ad for medicine D20

  • We often rely on expert opinions when drawing conclusions about technical matters where we lack the expertise ourselves. 
  • An Appeal to an Authority may bemisleading under the following circumstances. 

  • The authority cited is either not an expert (or is an expert but in an unrelated area), or
  • The person is an expert but has a bias or conflict of interest, or
  • The person may be an expert, but the views he holds may not be representative of the majority  in the field of expertise.

11. Fear-Mongering Appeal to Fear (and Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt)

  • This is a propaganda technique that capitalizes on fear.
  • Fear by-passes the rational parts of our brain. It makes us more susceptible to overt or hidden messages in media that are designed to induce fear and anxiety.
  • Multiple forms of lies and deceptive techniques are used to spin fear-mongering stories.
  • This technique psychologically prepares the audience for something that is going to happen that they won’t like; or forces the audience to do something by causing them to fear something bad will happen to them if they don’t do it.
  • It is used in politics (particularly when military action, additional taxes or other policies that the public might object to – are planned); and it is also used in marketing.
  • With the Appeal to Fear – the spin-doctor usually also presents a solution (their solution) to cope with the fear they have induced.

Examples:
“Voting for “Mr. A” for [some claimed reason – commonly untrue] is the same as voting for terrorists. Vote for our guy, Mr. “B” – Security for Sure.”

“Don’t lose friends due to your bad breath. Use Brand X for fresh breath for 24 hours.”

12. Bandwagon Effect

Bandwagon D20
  • The Bandwagon technique attempts to persuade the target audience to take a course of action because “everyone else” (or a given percentage) is taking it or doing it. “Join the crowd.” 
  • Statistics are presented (which may be partly or entirely made up) that imply that the majority of people support a certain government policy or a certain product that is for sale etc .
  • The subconscious psychological manipulation that occurs with this technique is to convince the audience that a program (or product) is supported by large numbers of  people (whether it is or not) – and that it is in the interest of the audience to join in because if they don’t they may lose out.
  • There is also an unspoken psychological message that the majority of people will follow the winner. An invitation to “inevitable victory” (by joining the majority) lures those not already on the bandwagon to join those already on the road to apparent success. This type of spin also serves to reassure those already, or partially on the bandwagon – that staying aboard is the best course of action. 
Lemmings jumping off cliff D20
  • When confronted with bandwagon spin, we should weigh the pros and cons of joining in – independently from the numbers of people who have already allegedly joined the bandwagon. As with most types of spin, we should seek more information.

Examples:

“Everybody’s doing it. Buy Brand X exercise DVD and dance those pounds away.” 

“85% of people buy extended warranties.”

13. False Choice (The Either/Or Conundrum) 

  • This reflects a deliberate attempt to eliminate the middle ground on an issue. This technique involves presenting an issue as consisting of 2 extremes or a limit of only two choices. One choice is typically portrayed as having negative connotations.
  • Relevant details are often withheld and other options are not offered.
  • It is often used by politicians. 
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  • This technique is used to force the audience to make the choice that the spin-doctor wants or to accept the choice the spin-doctor has made.
  • Simplification is a technique related to false choice. With simplification, favorable and simplified  generalities are applied to complex social, political, economic or military problems – and the spin-doctor stacks the information provided so that you believe the spun story and proposed action is good and the only alternative is bad etc. 
  • Card-stacking (selective provision of facts favorable to the spin-doctor’s preferred decision) is often also used in this technique.
  • The lesser of two evils is another technique used to influence the audience that an undesirable action is OK, because it is not as bad as the (only presented) alternative.

14. Card Stacking (Selective omission)

Cheating at cards D20
  • This technique is often used on its own. It is a well-known propaganda technique.
  • It is a form of spin that is very commonly used by politicians, government bureaucrats, big businesses, lobby groups, organizations of all types and marketing.
  • The term comes from cheating at cards (stacking the deck in your favor).
  • It is used to slant a message.
  • In using this technique, facts are selected and presented in such a way as to most effectively strengthen and authenticate the point of view of the spinner. It involves selective omission and is related to censorship, lies of omission and truthiness.
  • First the spin doctor chooses what to present (and what to omit) so that information is presented to the audience in a manner expected to get the desired reaction. Then, these crafted facts (which are half truths or worse) are used as a basis for conclusions – leading the audience into accepting the conclusions as a consequence of their accepting the stacked facts.
  • Success or failure depends on how successful the propagandist is in selecting facts or “cards” and how they “present” them or “stack” them, and whether or not the audience is gullible enough to accept the story on face value. 
15. Cherry Picking 

Cherry Picking D20

  • “Cherry Picking” is also a propaganda technique, somewhat like “Card Stacking”. 
  • Rather than selectively omitting data as occurs in “Card Stacking” – “Cherry Picking involves selectively including data. 
  • It involves selectively pointing to individual cases or data that supports a particular opinion while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that opinion. 
Blue Cherry Picking D20
  • Cherry picking may be unintentional such as when a person uses anecdotal (personal experience) as a basis for conclusions without the intent to deceive.
  • But, with “Spin”, cherry picking is intentional. The objective is to manipulate the evidence to the audience so they come to the conclusion that the spinner wants. 
Cherry Picking Pseudoscience D20
  • “Card Stacking” and “Cherry Picking” are often used together to create a “truthiness” story by spin doctors.
16. Lesser of Two Evils

  • This technique is related to False Choice. 
  • The Spin-doctor acknowledges that the course of action being taken is  undesirable but that any alternative would result in an outcome far worse. The trick here is that the audience is led to believe that the choice is limited to one of two choices. 

Lesser of 2 evils D20

  • This technique is generally used to explain the need for sacrifices or to justify the seemingly harsh actions that displease the target audience or restrict personal liberties. This technique is often implemented during wartime to convince people of the need for sacrifices or to justify difficult decisions. 
  • This technique is also used in relation to government policies made in peace time to persuade the public not to act against a policy the government wants to implement.
  • Other options are withheld and part or all the truth is often hidden by officials. 

17. Glittering Generalities

Glittering Generality D20
  • Glittering generalities are intensely emotionally appealing words so closely associated with highly valued concepts and beliefs that they carry conviction without supporting information or reason. When these words are used, they demand approval without thinking, simply because such an important concept is involved. 
  • Though the words and phrases are vague and suggest different things to different people, their connotation is always favorable. Glittering Generalities appeal to such emotions as love of country, home; desire for peace, freedom, glory, honor, etc.
  • When we come across an idea that is being spun with glittering generalities, we should look beyond the emotional call of the words and consider the merits of the idea itself (and the facts related to the idea) – and not be way-laid by our emotional reaction to the words.
18. Weasel Words

  • Weasels suck the contents of birds’ eggs through a small hole, leaving the eggs
    Weasel with empty eggs D20

    appearing in tact – though actually empty. In other words what is left is an illusion that the egg is a functional egg.

  • Weasel words are qualifying words tacked on to other words that reduce the overall effect of the words and make the statement ambiguous. 
  • The use of weasel words results in statements that have the appearance of the speaker having said something meaningful, important and to the point – but they have not. The weasel words serve to obscure the fact that claims which may have been made are ambiguous and assertions unsubstantiated – making the overall statements actually vague and misleading, not meaningful.

weasel words D20

  • Words with attached weasel words have the appearance of being truthful. But weasel words are often used to mislead; to coverup something or to create an impression in the absence of facts (or at least in the absence of facts the speaker wants to acknowledge).
  • Weasel words effectively protect the speaker from being definite or from specifically admitting or committing to something.
  • Weasel words are popular amongst some politicians and officials of various organizations including government as a method to avoid telling the truth without outright lying. They particularly tend to be used when the spinner is questioned on matters liable to draw criticism, censure, loss of a benefit, or punishment of some sort etc. They are also used to mislead by creating an impression that may cause others to believe or do something the speaker wants.
  • Weasel words are also common in advertising and marketing spin. In marketing spin  weasel words are used to suggest something that will hook the audience to buy-in without risking outright lying. The goal is to create an illusion of truth and a false  impression, so that the audience “fills in the blanks” and make presumptions to the spinners benefit (without the spinner having to lie outright) .

Examples:

The classic: “Mistakes have been made… 

“Questions have been raised…” 

“People say…” 

“Designer shoes from as little as $20 pair…” (The “from as little” are weasel words that make this a best case description, but the buyer sees Designer and $20 and is inclined to be hooked).

In defense of Weasel Words: 

  • The qualifying words and phrases that are weasel words in a certain context are not bad words in themselves, and they are commonly used. 
  • It’s a bit like that funny bank ad on TV where the concluding statement is: “Money isn’t bad.  It’s what you do with it.” 
  • Words (including those that can work as weasel words) are not bad in themselves. It is how they are used. 
  • As with lies in general, it is the context, intent and consequence of the usage that let you know when a weasel is at work.

19. Euphemisms (Words that are easier to swallow)

Euphemisms D20
  • A euphemism is a word or expression often used instead of another word that may be found offensive or might suggest something unpleasant. 
  • Some euphemisms are intended to amuse but mainly they are intended to downplay what the actual more applicable word or term means. Most euphemisms are used to protect the hearer rather than to mislead.
  • When part of a spin performance, euphemisms are usually used with other spin methods. With spin, euphemisms tend to be used when the intent is to manage the impressions of the audience so that they will not react to bad news in a way the spinner does not want.

Examples of euphemisms:

“an environmental hiccup” (a large oil spill)

downsize / rightsize / agreed departures / terminate / deselect / lay off / release / made redundant / let go” (fired or otherwise lost jobs)

“job flexibility” (lack of job security)

“human resources” (employees)

“improving productivity” (making people work harder for the same salary)

“incident” (crisis)

“undocumented workers” (illegal aliens)

“campaign contribution” (political donation)

“pro-choice” (wanting abortion to be legal)

“pro-life” (wanting abortion to be illegal)

“improper / questionable” (wrong, wrong-doing)

“air support” (bombing)

“neutralized” (killed)

“collateral damage” (missing the target, causing civilian deaths or damage)

“friendly fire” (weapon fire coming from one’s own side that causes accidental injury or death to one’s own forces)

20. Assertions

Marketing Assertions D20
  • These frequently stand alone as an audience manipulation technique; but also get used in  association with weasel words and other spin techniques.
  • Assertions are positive statements presented as fact. They imply that what is stated is self-evident and needs no further proof. Assertions may or may not be true.
  • (Remember we are talking about spin. Spin involves deception. When assertions are true and not presented in a manner to mislead they are not spin.)
  • Any time an advertiser states that their product is the best without providing evidence for this, they are using an assertion. The unspoken object of the spin-doctor is for the audience to simply agree to the statement without searching for additional information or reasoning about it. 
  • Assertions, although usually simple to spot, are often dangerous forms of propaganda because they often include falsehoods or lies.
21. Plain Folks or Common Man: 

Common man D20
  • The “plain folks” or “common man” approach attempts to convince the audience that the spinner’s positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is an old propaganda technique.
  • It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by copying the common manner and style of the audience in order to convince the public that the spinner’s views reflect those of the common person and that they are also working for the benefit of the common person. 
  • The spin-doctor will often attempt to use the accent of a specific audience as well as use  specific idioms or jokes. 

Your thoughts and comments please!!!

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Richland voters have lots of decisions on fall ballot – YES THEY DO (Smile).

 

Richland voters have lots of decisions on fall ballot

At least 26 tax issues or questions will be on the ballot and dozens of elected offices come up for grabs. – Oh boy! – Time for some WHOLESALE CHANGED huh people?

In Mansfield, voters will decide between Republican incumbent Tim Theaker and Democrat Ron Abrams for mayor. The city’s incumbent law director, John Spon, will face a challenge from former law director Dave Remy. Incumbent council president Phil Scott will face a challenge from Mike Hill, who was an at-large councilman and currently holds a 1st ward city council seat. –  Well, where does Mansfield start? Surely Theakor won’t have a chance with his I don’t care about the little people mentality, but then again this is Mansfield. Then there’s that guy Buttercup Mike Skidmore recorded when Randy Shepherd CONfronted coming out of the clerks office about his lawsuit he is blocking against a former law firm he work for, that being yet to be decided WHY these officials are blocking the Shepherd State order? Now all we need to know is more about Mike Hill who may replace long time politician Phil Scott who once worked at the Clerks office once again in which Mr Shepherd claims is where ALL fraud starts and begins? 

I believe these are ALL good questions for these hopefuls, so when will they have a public debate in which all can attend, or will they status quo only wine and dine their corporate sponsors – that’s how it usually works here!

Good luck getting any of them on the record, as we saw July 9th you catch them lying on video they will try and take your camera, then say they told you to leave so they can justify everything they do wrong! Politics will surely be interesting when their feeble attempt to shut down the MP who refutes their local paper crap we will see how the Community grows and moves forward. JOBS should be the focus for Mansfield, not the WELFARE PRISON PROBATION STATE – It seems if you have watched these leaders in action this is not a party association, Democrat or Republican – This is being made into a US vs THEM association, in which THEY refuse to listen to US???

IF you really have had enough, GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

 

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Craigslist post about the MP, have the people in this Country gone mad???, or is this just another COWARD LIBERAL spewing hate for something once again they DO NOT KNOW?

 

http://mansfield.craigslist.org/rnr/5154050550.html

Attention WATERFORD RESIDENCE (Waterford Trimble Lex Ave)

There is a meeting of radical Mansfielders that belong to a group called “Mansfielders Perpective” that is meeting in Waterfords building the first THURSDAY of the month at 6:30pm. It is a radical political off wing group that is on Facebook to create conspiracy theories and cause trouble for the City of Mansfield every chance they get.

As a concerned citizen who has their parent living there I do not want my mother, who pays very good money to stay in that facility to be in harms way of a bunch of crazies who have no where else to meet. Go meet at the park or public library but do not take it to a home where there are innocent senior citizens who want to live their lives out in peace. I will be contacting the administration beyond that facility to make sure you do not get in the way of the residents there with your “poppycock” bullshit that you spin.

Phil Sydnor was one who was in attendance of the shooting at the courthouse with the other crazy Skidmark, oops Skidmore guy. Do you want these people even in the same building as our parents? Go to a park and sit at a picnic table and come up with your conspiracy theories there.

  • do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

post id: 5154050550

posted:

updated:

email to friend

Yes, I e-mailed a response…

I will be taking legal action against your slanderous post if you don’t take it down, I am Phil Sydnor the administrator for Mansfielders Perspective and don’t take kindly that you are associating ME WRONGFULLY with being the one who is putting on this meeting. This meeting is actually ran by a friend of the Sheriff, his name is Scott Kyler who calls his meeting Richland County Common Law Study Group. I am saddened by your mistaken identity from who ever has told you I or we are a radical group. Sure I was there, how ever do not associate with violence or what ever went on in OUR public meeting, I was representing myself, had my own questions, and it’s sad I never got to ask. There IS much negative light on Mansfield, that you can BLAME on those who run it, not I or any group. This is what happens when you have leaders who are above being questioned by those who elect them, its a perfectly legal outlet and I am sad that this happened, but YOU making accusations like this are ludicrous – you should be ashamed of yourself.

You are more than welcome to join this group where ALL citizens are heard, NOTHING illegal about free speech friend – https://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/
Any further issues or questions BEFORE you run at the mouth you should get your facts straight before you are SUED!!!!
Phil Sydnor
When Randy misinterpreted what I said when I said Mike F’d up is EXACTLY THIS! – I also work on the front lines in retail and now EVERYONE has this stereotype of crazy people or a threat to all.

I hope this case PROVES something, but I sure it what it won’t prove is this being a group full of crazy people? I have seen MANY groups with nutty comments, here my guess is they are testing my CENSORSHIP? – I don’t!!!! – I am sorry Americans are being torn apart by their leaders behavior and the media spin on it. This is EXACTLY what I feared, OUR COUNTRY being torn apart by those who have CONtrol over it!!!!

Sorry for this stereotypical behavior, it stems from years of corruption and now here we are????

 

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Another Perspective from inside the Richland County Courthouse – Another view they don’t want you to read as THEY DEMONIZE the public who showed up for THEIR meeting.

 

The TRUTH SHALL and WILL prevail IF the MP has anything to do with it! We have seen in NUMEROUS cases as OUR so-called Secret Grand Jury has had EVIDENCE withheld along with other numerous video accounts as you will see the SAME intimidation of the public, and now they want to say these Officials felt intimidated? – What I personally have reviewed are many cases where THEY intimidate the public, maybe they need public interaction skills courses for the officials, I recommend taking 12 weeks with Dale Carnegie. Please read this in it’s entirety and forget about the media satire being spread around OUR Community! The County’s BEHAVIOR especially those who speak for OUR Elected Officials is getting VERY DANGEROUS to say the least. Now the MP is hearing how awful the County is treating good honest hard working Americans while letting others with criminal records run rampant. You want examples just ask in the comments below.

I ran out of time in my reply on Saturday. Here’s the rest of it, Randy.

Scott

—– Forwarded Message —–

From: scott michaels <scott_24002@yahoo.com>
To: randy shepherd <bgolbuckeye@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Richland County Common Law Study Group Meeting Scheduled For 8-6-2015
  First of all Randy, I didn’t run from the meeting room. I was one of the last persons in there before the gendarmes told us to leave. The Whistlers left way before I did, but, they had good reason as the bullet just missed H. I stayed with my camera for as long as I could to get stuff on video. The whole thing took me by surprise as I had expected everyone to act like all the attendants of my meetings have acted in the past: quiet, polite and simply waiting for our time to present our issues. That’s the way we have always done it before, and, never had any problems.
  One of the inherent difficulties with the meeting, I think, was that Mike has had issues with that very same guard. Actually, since neither that guard nor Mike like each other, it appears to me that the whole thing may have been a set-up from the start. Possibly, it was planned that Mike was to be shot if an altercation broke out, which they knew was likely since Mike has shown his feelings during the previous encounters. Even the sheriff told me that, from their perspective, Mike and yourself are viewed as very aggressive. I interpreted that to mean you two “intimidate them” and they don’t like that. Boo, hoo. I know. Meanwhile, this does show us that your style of public servant encounters was causing you guys to be aggressively targeted as “enemies of the county”. This would be no problem as long as we had a large minority of patriot people being active in the county at this time to counter their actions, BUT, WE DON’T HAVE.
  At any rate, you guys do a great job, maybe “too good” of a job, using the “We Are Change” style of in-your-face street encounters with our public servants. HOWEVER, that is NOT MY STYLE of interacting with the public servants. I go the slow and gradual, polite, orderly and consistent, but, VIDEO DOCUMENTED approach. (Jesus said, “Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.”) I believe that, over time, much video documentation can be amassed to show at least the tyranny, if not the corruption, of our local public servants in their continual denial of hearing and properly addressing the people’s grievances. That’s step 1. Step 2 is to take that video evidence and then distribute it across the net to show the locals, and others, what a Police State Richland County is becoming. Step 3 has to to with public rallies and protests which we record as would the local news media once they got big enough. This is all designed to apply increasing political pressure to our public servants in which they would eventually be forced to make concessions because of an ever-increasing loss of credibility with the people. (I for one, would probably be open-carrying at the bigger rallies and protests just for self-protection against the “law enforcement growth industry”, and, as a deterrent from them easily using unlawful force.)
  While I truly appreciate those who are willing to be arrested and beat-up by roided-out thugs and thrown into jail or prison over lawful and unlawful issues, as a matter of strategy, I for one am NOT willing to use that as my personal strategy. A lot can happen while behind bars which is beyond the control of the incarcerated, like torture, and, even death. I’m more of a “blood and guts” kind of guy. I figure, if things become THAT serious, then, it’s time to take down as many with me as possible. Like the music album says, THEN, “War Is The Answer”. In that sense, I have a hair trigger. I think I’d have no trouble sleeping, too.
  So, Randy, I guess it comes down to us having two different styles of dealing with our “public servants”. I just won’t adopt the style you guys use because, quite frankly, if I did try to use it, I’d probably end-up not being even as restrained as yourselves and eventually say or do something which WOULD land me in jail or prison. (There are just too many opportunities for physical conflict using your style, in my opinion.)
  As for you not attending any more of our meetings, Randy, I think that is for the best. I don’t think that our styles of interacting with the public servants can co-exist at the same meeting with the public servants. However, I HIGHLY VALUE your researching and investigating abilities and encourage you to continue posting your incredibly important findings. We didn’t get in this mess over-night and we’re not going to get out of it over-night either. As far as our first Thursday of the month meetings go, I think it has become a matter of too many chiefs and not enough Indians. There has to be a recognized leader for every group. We both realize that history is written by leaders because the followers accurately follow. (This doesn’t mean there is not much give and take between many minds, though.) This gets every major historical job done. This is just reality.
  Finally, this brings me to Mike’s situation, in general. As much as Mike’s attitude, verbosity and mannerisms extremely irritate me personally, he just rubs me the wrong way, personality clashes, though, need to be kept out of this, I must say that, technically, Mike was correct with all of the matters that he brought-up at the Commissioners Meeting. I do think he acted rather inappropriately which gave the commissioners the “excuse” they needed to manufacture a conflict. (I thought that he had agreed to WAIT for me to give the introduction before he would begin to speak! That’s another reason why I was so surprised that he just bolted ahead of me! Again, too many Chiefs, not enough Indians in the room at that time.)
  After having talked with someone knowledgeable about Mike’s situation yesterday, it appears I may have left the impression that I’m not on Mike’s “side”, or, that I just “threw him under the bus”. This isn’t the case in my mind at all. In fact, the video shows clearly, in my opinion, that the guard definitely initiated the provocation WITH NO WARNING AT ALL given to Mike. (There were no instructions given by the guard!) This would constitute assault on the part of the guard which would make Mike’s ensuing actions be possibly labeled self-defense. The past history of animosity between the two complicates the case. It would seem that both the guard and Mike might have been taking the incident quite personally.
  What makes me so angry about the whole thing is that Mike had already quite a history of using the aggressive approach with public servants before he even entered the room. Therefore, he was already a “marked man” in the eyes of the “public servants”. The same went for you, too, Randy. There we go, right from the git-go, we have a conflict between the two interaction styles, or, philosophies, within the same room. I’m holding back, wanting the meeting to get flowing as normal, and waiting for my opportunity to speak the brief introduction for why we were attending the meeting. Even though Mike, or, someone, was, apparently asked if he had questions, the ball was never given back to me first so that I could have possibly prepped and cushioned the event. Maybe, with Mike, that would not have made any difference, because, the fact that he got up out of his chair, even after being told that he could see her badge, could have been interpreted by some as sort of an aggressive action. The touching of her badge certainly was interpreted that way! (Really, the exaggerated whining by the commissioners was used as an excuse to escalate the tension of the moment.)
  As to what happened to Mike, I really feel that he partly brought it on himself. I mean that his and your past aggressive actions with the public servants, being warranted or not, virtually conditioned them to see Mike, and, yourself, as potentially physically dangerous “enemies” of the county public servants. Because of these past publicly aggressive behaviors, you had both become targeted activists. This is what I mean by partly bringing it on himself. Negative reputations are difficult to remove once entrenched in the public servants minds’, no matter how unjustified, and, given the mind-controlled political environment of today, “malevolent reputations” practically guaranteed some sort of attempt at entrapment at the meeting. The trap was sprung and history is history.
  I think Jesus said, “Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves” for good reason. This kind of approach virtually guarantees that others see you in a physically non-threatening light, so at least they are more apt to listen to what you have to say rather than feel physically intimidated by your mere presence.
  I suppose I must take part of the blame for what happened at that County Commissioners Meeting. I should have reviewed your and Mike’s past video recordings more carefully and made a hard and fast rule right there. I should have realized that your actions would not be interpreted by the public servants as the behavior of “gentle doves”. Therefore, I should have requested that you both not attend the meeting with my group. I should have said you were perfectly welcome to set-up a meeting with the commissioners on your own without us being present. If you two would have instead decided to attend our meeting anyway, I should have aborted the meeting and left with my group, just because of the threat of dynamic instability alone.
  So, as you can see, Randy, we have two very different philosophies on how to deal, initially anyway, with our public servants. Mine is Jesus’ example of “gentle as doves”. Yours and Mike’s is a much more, initially, aggressive approach. I think these two approaches also yield two vastly different results as pertaining to the public servants’ perceptions of us over time. Up to this point, I never perceived a pronounced animosity between my group and the county commissioners, or, the sheriff’s department for that matter.
  However,  history teaches that, eventually, situations come to loggerheads and the spilling of blood in war usually follows at some point. THAT is what I’m trying to avoid right now. Also, I’m trying to avoid helping the “new world order” crowd to grow their Police State even faster by giving them “opportunities” and “excuses” to further clamp down on our unalienable rights and responsibilities via unlawful “security measures” designed to “protect” the “public servants”, and, the “public”, in general. I’m hoping that this incident with Mike will not be used to accelerate the construction of a tyrannical Police State in Richland County, Ohio, helped along by heaping portions of media spin.
  Having said all this, I have to say I’m on Mike’s side when it comes to the specific issue of whether the guard’s use of initial force was justified. It CLEARLY WAS NOT justified and the guard should be held accountable with charges of assault being applied. Besides this, the guard actually endangered everyone in the room by pulling his sidearm and discharging a round, which barely missed a young man! At the very least the guard should immediately lose his job and face assault charges, as well as charges of public endangerment. (Where’s an Independent Grand Jury when you need one!)
  Well, it’s a lot of water under the bridge, now, but, I really do wish I would have reviewed your and Mike’s aggressive style of interacting with public servants much more closely before moving forward with the commissioners meeting. The clear delineation between our two philosophies and styles of confronting public servants makes for the necessity of having two different sets of meetings with our public servants. However, the sharing of research findings and news revelations could and should proceed as before with web postings, and, even personal exchanges at meetings as long as civility can be maintained.
  Our founding fathers bent over backwards trying to be polite, respectful, calm and orderly when presenting their many grievances before the British Crown and its various representatives and officers. Finally, though, the last threads of restraint broke and the North American continent fell into years of enraged bloodshed. If this is to be America’s future, war on American soil again, may it be said that we tried with all civility and decorum to avoid the Conflagration.
I wish you well, Randy.
Scott
From: randy shepherd <bgolbuckeye@yahoo.com>
To: scott michaels <scott_24002@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Richland County Common Law Study Group Meeting Scheduled For 8-6-2015

Scott you in my opinion are such a punk ass fraud who meets in private with the nazi leader who by and for his private cause of executive branch takeover. This vary man casue numerous infractions of the law wiht several unarmed bandits intruding on my other wise peaceful public meeting.  Your friend your pal the nazi in the yellow shirt damn near kiiled me during his pprivate siezure of my court house whaich by the way was very successful.
So here is what you fkn mouth got you, you neve and I mane never as you did upon entering the court house affilaite me in any way with your bullshit group of one, You never include ,e wiht your mouth of being any thing close to a Amwerican antionsla s you proclaim to be until the Shtf and then out the door forget the womwn and children Scott is taken flight Oh I hear you run your mouth but all I saw was asses and elbows heading fromthe dorr as the terrorists pulled guns, That stary bullet from your pal could have just as easily and just splilt your shoulder Baldes, Yes I said shot in the back by your pals.. that is called friendly fire death and you are as guilty in my mind as they are if for nothin g more then leavine gher scene or a crime and that crime is terrorism.. take to flight lke the banny hen you are casue you aint get the fiorest clue of birng a patriot nor o I ever consider you as an amwerican patriot becasue your as pussy american national.

  Hell you did not even know where the County Commissioers office is, now you say you have the proclamation from who. None of those squaters are bonded and jnoen are thereby couty commissioers and certainly you cannot have a board wiht zero commissioers.
  waht are you thinking. Oh never mind you are a american national.  wrng fkn hat dude just wrong, you see a vetran i peril of his life your life the qwomwn lives and run your ass down the hall to your nazi bud.. It is best you have your type of meeting with out me. keep it your self and your own flatuation in it. group of ONe..                 
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On Thu, 7/30/15, scott michaels <scott_24002@yahoo.com> wrote:




Subject: Re: Richland County Common Law Study Group Meeting Scheduled For 8-6-2015
To: “randy shepherd” <bgolbuckeye@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015, 4:41 PM



I’m sorry you feel that way, Randy. A peaceful, orderly presentation of our petitions to our public servants is our ONLY option at this moment. These presentations are to be recorded on video so that the rejections of our grievances mount-up the evidence against them over time. That is, unless you feel that you already have an “army” right now to take-on the traitors in office. Good luck with that. Our founding fathers repeatedly went the extra mile in documenting and peacefully, presenting, in an orderly fashion, their grievances before the British “Crown”. They allowed the inevitable war with the international banking Rothschild s to develop naturally. So, on April 19th, 1775, our founding fathers were forced into physically defending their property, land and freedoms on the Lexington Green and on the ground of Concord.  Personally, I feel that this scenario may be inevitable, again, for America. I just don’t think we should be helping them to build their totalitarian Police State BEFORE that Time, thereby giving them even MORE of an advantage. If we think that going into the public servant offices and meeting rooms and trying to “take-over” the meetings when they are so abysmally ignorant, or not, of the Law, we are sadly mistaken. This will only, eventually, result in our arrest and possible imprisonment with the controlled “media” making mincemeat of the Truth and Patriot Movements in the public’s mind in the process. This kind of activity only increases our isolation from the public’s consideration of our cause. I, for one, refuse to go to “prison”, if I can at all help it. If and or when I have to go down, I much prefer going down in a more fair fire fight, hopefully with others of like mind when state and national “flash points” finally arrive. We act as peacefully and orderly as possible for as long as we can, for as long as they let us. Then, it actively becomes DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER in defense of our loved ones and
ourselves. – Regardless of personal cost, just as the founding fathers experienced in the birth of our Republic.

Scott
From: randy shepherd
<bgolbuckeye@yahoo.com>
  To: scott michaels
<scott_24002@yahoo.com>
  Sent: Thursday, July
30, 2015 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Richland County Common Law Study Group Meeting Scheduled For             8-6-2015

Hey Scott you chicken shit bastard read fucking
this sign posted on our Court house door. No persona shall
enter this preimse wiht a gun. So all your buddies in
cluding the yellow bastard in our court house are to be
prosecuted. you wann join wiht them ok joinderis an option.
Fk off you punk. 
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On Thu, 7/30/15, scott michaels <scott_24002@yahoo.com>
wrote:



  Subject:
Richland County Common Law Study Group Meeting Scheduled For
8-6-2015
  To: “Scott Kyler” <scott_24002@yahoo.com>
  Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015, 3:31 PM


RICHLAND COUNTY COMMON LAW STUDY GROUP MEETING

SCHEDULED FOR 8-6-2015

by Scott Kyler 7-29-2015

The next Richland County Common Law Study Group meeting is scheduled for Thursday, August, 6th, 2015 at The Waterford, 1296 S. Trimble Road, the corner of Lexington Avenue and Trimble Road, starting at 6:30pm. We are now meeting in the private dining room. One of the topics of discussion will be the selection of ground rules for our proper, profitable, behavior when interacting with our public servants in public meetings. This
discussion is, regrettably, now necessary if we are to have any future, public meetings with our public servants. (Actually, it’s rather amazing to me that this subject even needs to be addressed.) Unfortunately, because there were 3 other groups, represented, that had joined our group for the Thursday, July 9th, 2015 County Commissioners Meeting, whose
individuals had not been fully vetted by myself, behaviors ensued at the meeting that are
against my personal philosophy concerning interactions with public servants at public
meetings. Actually, there was only one person present at that County Commissioners Meeting, who arrived with our group, whose behavior, in my opinion, was out-of-line when
  attempting to interact with a largely ignorant, or, not, Board of County Commissioners. (All meetings must proceed in an orderly fashion, including the hearing of public concerns,
even in light of the public meetings, including the meeting of the County Commissioners, being meetings of the people of the county. This MUST be kept in mind at least until the
active consensus in Richland County changes to that of historical Patriot. If this general
rule is not followed, then, any excuse can be used to increasingly shut-down public interactions with and access to our public servants.) In all of the previous meetings I have held between our patriot people and our public servants, including, the Richland County Sheriff’s Department, the Richland County Commissioners, and, the Richland County Board of Health, there have never been any negative incidents occur,  especially like that which happened at the July 9th, 2015 Richland County Commissioners meeting. In fact, we have had only positive results from our meetings, including the Proclamation signed by the County Commissioners declaring  clear support for the Bill of Rights in Richland County, Ohio.
So, if we are to proceed to take-back and secure our liberties in a peaceful fashion through interacting with our public servants, we MUST proceed in an orderly way in these meetings. To not proceed in an orderly fashion only allows opportunities for conflicts to occur, which, undoubtedly, will be used by our “public servants” and, or, “the media” to further demonize our Patriot Movement which is standing for the protection
of our unalienable rights under God. Hopefully, such a damaging conflict has not already happened which will be used to progressively solidify the establishment of a “Police State” right here in our own Richland County, Ohio. Obviously, the political trends across the country do not appear to be good.
Please come out to our meetings and bring patriot friends. Only through knowledge and action can the tide be turned. We have the numbers. We just have to organize and stand up, so, that we will not have to ever “load-up”. “Fear is the mind killer.” – from the movie DUNE. Fear is also the freedom killer – it is the liberty killer, when concerning mortal men. However, the fear of YHWH God is the beginning of wisdom. – And the knowledge of God’s
  Revealed Law continues the path toward maturing that liberty yielding wisdom. Hosea 4:6-7.

The Richland County Common Law Study Group meets the first Thursday of the month at
The Waterford, at 6:30 pm.

See you at our next meeting!
Scott Kyler Richland County Common Law Study Group 419-612-9167

A friendly reminder the MP Group is not and does not associate as a Group of on individualized identity, it is a group on facebook who are ALL WELCOME to share their Perspectives on NEWS – PERIOD. The MP does not choose sides, yet works in the principal of being a Devils Advocate for TRUTH asking the questions the local media and abroad do not ask nor share with the public as you see I am sharing into the light what has been kept in the dark. The perspectives here of others who were at the July 9th Meeting including myself who STRONGLY DISAGREE with the short clips the media has shared, especially without audio. What “the people” need to see to make an INFORMED decision is the unedited uncut 47 minute version that first broke by PINAC – Photography Is Not A Crime which can be seen here directly on youtube…

From one perspective I noticed out there that appears to see the disturbing points many are missing due to media spin. Great points Mansfielder! – (y)

Mansfielder Tells it like it is in favor of Mike Skidmore

 

Audio recordings below not heard before!

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS IN THE COMMENT SECTION OF THIS BLOG – DON’T FORGET TO VOTE AS WELL – (Y)

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John Kasich is who we need to settle the case of who attacked who in a public meeting July 9th! – The local media is sure SPINNING it????

 
No, this is not photo shopped - My man Kasich had his security Guard take the photo. I VOTE YES!

No, this is not photo shopped – My man Kasich had his security Guard take the photo. I VOTE YES!

Mansfield needs justice to Mend Mansfield

I have plenty of votes still John Kasich, we helped you become Governor and we can help you become President. You want to be the Commander in Chief here is your FIRST Federally needed attention that could put you over the top! – TELL IT LIKE IT IS – you say? Well my friend its time to put up or shut up, are you one of THEM or one of US? No, I am not saying a group that needs to change its tactics or one of which THEY call a “CULT”, that is ludicrous – we are Americans, NOT ISIS like we have seen taking over our local Government. Yes, THEY blamed us for what happened when in REALITY IF you have watched the clear unedited video you will see that is a lie, just as many other things that have been said and done that proves they are diligently trying to cover up what THEY did wrong. FIRST AND FOREMOST trying to block citizens from speaking out on their issues on the record.

Let’s Talk John Kasich, this is your chance to prove to the masses like you did me you are for real when you came to Mansfield. Yes, I yelled and you responded at your campaign here when you asked what I wanted to know, that was personable and would like to share my issues then are STILL my issues now. PLEASE HELP MANSFIELD – This small town like many others are under siege by tyrants who believe we have no rights to protest PEACEFULLY. I assure you there is more to this story than what can be believed being regurgitated by our long pal local news to corruption here. IF Mansfield is to mend and get back to work, it starts with its leaders where most believe there are none!

I got a call from the Sheriff who said has NOTHING to do with this secret security in OUR building, so who is in charge of this secret regime? If we are to have peace here this security needs to know it works for the people who need to be protected equally – read these blogs, you will surely have questions, maybe an open forum here in Mansfield on the square for all to hear, this is the leadership we need today, leadership for ALL, not just a select few – Constitutionally you owe it to us. So, IF you want our votes – HELP Mansfield NOW!!!!

Call me crazy, yes one has to be they say to speak out here? Do you know how many say I am lucky to be alive??? Now that’s CRAZY! – Quite frankly I am sick of hearing that NONSENSE!!!

That’s INTIMIDATION and  FEAR – both of which I am not for the record. Crazy?, I don’t think so!

Man faces felonious assault charge in courthouse fight, but who started the fight?

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