Randy Shepherd vs Child Support Enforcement Agency for Public scrutiny, did justice prevail or will it?

After nearly 6 years of avoiding justice in this case Judge Brent Robinson now disqualifies ones self because of CONflict of interest as Prosecutor then? Here are documents shared on the MP Question Politics page for the public to scrutinize here.

Between all the elected heads since 2008 Mr. Shepherd has been chasing a legal sham process that may be coming to head as the case NOW moves forward to the Honorable 10 Commandments Judge DeWeese???

Here is what we have to scrutinize…

Randy Shepherd case files for Case No. 2008_cv294 – Mind you Robinson worked as Prosecutor staff in 2008 who refused to Prosecute?

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Case No.2008_cv294_pg2

Meantime CORSA Invoice found showing Judgement of overage paid? – Yet Richland County Commissioners can’t find the check Randy did not receive? – Mr Shepherd found this record I do believe in a file they thought he would never see, an Invoice that CLEARLY depicts the County was given an Invoice from CORSA so they could pay him. This was brought to the attention of the Commissioners on numerous occasions until being formally documented at the October 16th 2014 Commissioners meeting in which Commissioner Olson took it upon himself to get to the bottom of this, still to this day no avail with exception to chase CORSA a private entity for answers?

November 17th Judgement Entry by Judge Robinson to disqualify himself in the matter (Conflict of Interest?) – Never mind this was April, not filed until November? WOW! – are they really saying the Clerk of Courts has this big of a bottleneck for filing?

November 24th Corrected Judgement Entry for proper English usage for disqualifying ones self from the case, how does one legally correct a Judgement Entry?

Appears we have a fraud by our NEWLY Elected Judge 2 months before he officially takes office by the people for the people?

Your thoughts on this legal mess please!!!!! – THEY say hire another Attorney…

Now that’s ROTFLMAO – huh Drew Tyler?

 

Links to source in which many frauds can be found…

 

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Interesting finding the Cuyahoga Prosecutor missed, maybe he should shoot himself like ours did? – That would be PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

After further review of the finally shared records that defied transparency in this case it was found this lead officer was on a medication called PRISTIQ, a medication for DEPRESSION ironically enough! They made Brian Garber seem like a NUTJOB because he was on medication for depression, yet they somehow missed this?

Lets go down a timeline or history if you will where this man has used unreasonable behavior in the past shall we?, then we will get to Tim McGinty’s quote!

Timeline of Frazier’s instability:

May 16, 2013: Placed on paid administration leave for attacking the worker at Terry’s Towing on May 9. (The next day, May 16, the Mansfield Police Department alerted the sheriff’s office that Frazier’s behavior concerned some of its staff.
Sheriff Sgt. Rich Eichinger’s wife, Mansfield police officer Angela Eichinger, told her supervisor that she was concerned for her safety because of some possible threats Frazier made that “everybody involved will get it,” according to the report.
It was unclear when or to whom the statement was made, the report stated.
Sgt. Eichinger asked Sheriff Lt. Donald Zehner to talk to his wife about her concerns and Zehner refused, the report said. When she called Zehner, he did not pick up, Zehner wrote in Wednesday’s report.) ( It was also during this time that I and my family saw first hand just how unstable Frazier is…I made a formal complaint about his actions while acting as civil standby at my home to his immediate supervisor, Deputy Gunder, on May 14, 2013).

June 4, 2013: Allowed to return to work after psychological review. (Maj. Dale Fortney, said Frazier was issued an “Instruction of Caution” for “Unsatisfactory Work Performance and Failing to Maintain a Required Standard of Performance.”

August 22, 2013: Frazier is placed on administrative leave again for allegedly (their words, not mine. We all know…) using excessive force. (This was the garage beating incident).

Sept. 24 or 25, 2013: Cleared a pre-disciplinary hearing on Tuesday(9/24) or Wednesday (9/25) this week, and returned to work the following day (returned either 9/25 or 9/26), Sheriff Steve Sheldon said.

Fast forward to March 2014- Brian Garber is shot to death by Deputy Frazier. Admits to using the prescription Pristiq, admits to believing that he had been fired upon & was shot ( he was not shot as the record shows).

*This timeline is in progress*

Now that you got to know Raymond “Jeff” Frazier like this one sided jury didn’t because this information was probably left out or the jury has ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER? It CLEARLY appears they missed the warning signs that there’s a problem here, a ticking time bomb if you will that is why we are posting this IMPORTANT MESSAGE for anyone who confronts this man to comply and record their encounter or this too could be you next? Since this encounter he has already violated another couples home without just cause when they illegally entered their home with his posse and dogs for supposedly someone making a call that they were going to hurt themselves? This incident happened November 21st approximately 5:00pm in which their would be a 911 call prior which needs to be verified. Could compound an imminent lawsuit in which this couple is seeking counsel for?

Now, lets get to Tim McGinty’s statement on the Brian Garber case shall we?

He said in this case for the shooters, and for this example we are talking about the LEAD SHOOTER who is the only one on record to see what was said he saw,  what looked like a gun and a man sitting on a bed going for it?

With the benefit of hindsight, it is possible that this incident could have been handled differently. Nevertheless, the law provides a clear standard to analyze police officers’ use of deadly force (… “a reasonable officer on the scene, standing in the officer’s shoes, perceiving what he perceived and acting within the limits of his knowledge or information as it then existed”). Evidence firmly demonstrates that these deputies had an objectively reasonable belief, based on facts known to them at that time, that Brian Garber had a gun and was an imminent threat to the lives of each deputy.
Therefore, it is the opinion of the State that the March 16, 2014 shooting of Brian Garber by Sgt. James Nicholson, Deputy Andrew Knee, and Deputy Raymond Frazier was justified and that no criminal liability exists regarding the three officers role in the death of Brian Garber. This tragic incident was unfortunate and the State is sensitive to its impact on the Garber family. Nevertheless, a critical examination of the facts and circumstances leading to Brian Garber’s death reveals that the deputies who responded to 3400 Mill Run Road on March 16, 2014 acted within the bounds of the law.


Respectfully submitted,


Timothy J. McGinty – Cuyahoga County Prosecuting Attorney


Matthew E. Meyer –  Assistant Prosecuting Attorney 

James A. Gutierrez – Assistant Prosecuting Attorney

SPECIAL PROSECUTOR’S REPORT CONCERNING THE DEATH OF BRIAN GARBER

So, respectfully saying to these Prosecutors NOW KNOWING this Deputy Raymond “Jeff” Frazier is of sound mind and “reasonable” as you say there is NO FINDINGS of dereliction of duty by our fair Sheriff for keeping this time bomb on the force? Surely NOBODY was charged with any offense so it is my guess this Grand Jury was to find fault in something or someone and why one witness plead the 5th, the wife who made this “reasonable” FALSE WITNESS CALL to 911 not knowing for sure this man had a gun, which by the way looking back on hindsight by the so called evidence shared within that was unknown at the time of the 911 log that depicts the call ended at 8:14pm, and where text message time stamp that depicts he too has a gun wasn’t until 8:15pm, sounds reasonable to me that there’e a CONFLICT of evidence or lack there of to prove your case. The Mansfielders Perspective Group, a TRUTH seeking group if you will, not a cult would be glad to have you join us for discussions on this matter. YOU SIR RESPECTFULLY missed the data given in your own report?, or it was simply an OVERSIGHT on your part before making this decision that took 8 months to prepare which is SLOPPY at BEST!

This is surely a sad case of events, but as a citizen of Richland County knowing the lead Deputy’s HISTORY of violence who announces publicly we are in a police state we the people in this group announce we want his resignation before someone else gets hurt in which will involve the State as you said being part in a huge lawsuit of dereliction of duty and possible racketeering charges for covering this up under the guise of secrecy on the Grand Jury!

I personally and respectfully tell ALL CITIZENS OF RICHLAND COUNTY if they see this Deputy to use CAUTION by calling ANYONE other than 911 with what’s known today as a license to KILL. You must record this confrontational man and keep yourselves surrounded by witnesses, for this decision is anything you do or say today can and will result in DEATH!!!!!

In closing it’s ironic that a man fighting depression is killed by another who’s also fighting depression, read the attached records for yourself! Surely you will find the many holes and conflicting stories that will leave this Community guessing for years to come.

We would like to Thank the Cuyahoga County Prosecution for doing the job of our late Prosecutor who refused to do their job based on conflict of interest in which there is none “In Writing” as by law was required to happen! This is a sham legal process we have seen, now we must move to prove EVERYTHING done in this case was WRONG!

You see this man – BEWARE – he’s the one ultimately responsible for the death of Brian Garber, a few shots not this many would have been sufficient in a “reasonable” thinking mans mind, then again I have to work daily to pay for crap like this, so who am I?

Raymond Jeff Frazier

 

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Special Prosecutors Report Concerning the Death of Brian Garber – Yet we still have questions as a result that appear were not answered?

Yes, I agree we have a different telling of the accounts from this incident that could rightfully dispose of this case, but now even more questions arise!

I believe being this took over 8 months to investigate we have something bigger, more sinister being covered up, the drug(s) found in Brians body. Do we not remember there was a body left for dead on Hull Rd that overdosed on a similar product? Was there not a witness who dropped this body on Hull Rd. who also committed Suicide? Was it not the man of one of her children wanted for questioning not killed before he could be questioned? All we have left now is a black man being held by the Sheriff in relation to having a gun under disability who may know more, can we get his recollection of the body that was dumped or why he may think the man wanted for questioning wound up dead in Mansfield after running from Norwalk? 

Yes, they too would like you to think I’m crazy we well – hmmm? Future murder for hire to silence the needed attention on the drug and theft problems we have here in our community, ALL of which have surrounded dirty cops either behind it or who have been paid off to protect it! Then we can now add in a Deputy who’s had NUMEROUS accounts of outbursts and violence who’s first to see a fictitious gun because/maybe the steroids he abuses played tricks on his mind because someone planted a seed? Come on people, are these the cops we want to trust with our families lives, that is a REAL question. We have also seen, heard, and know cops who don’t like the Mansfielders Perspective Group who asks the questions that need answered. Here I can only hope the community will speak out on today’s forum of abuse of power and authority in our community before they incite violence that brings on Marshall Law. This is CLEARLY a blatant attempt for what can be called Executive Branch take over in which Laws, Procedures, and Policy’s in place are blatantly ignored for the people to have control over this madness. We are heading down a very DANGEROUS path in which anyone at anytime can be murdered by a cop willingly and knowingly lies. It’s been done before and it will continue, why else were prior reprimands kept from this Grand Jury? Because one if not all would have been indicted is why!

I WILL ASSURE YOU the public that this deal is not done and we the people of integrity in this watchdog group will be keeping a watchful eye going forward, for these men are now on radar and their every move scrutinized. Surely we will be calling for Sheriff Sheldons job if it’s not already in jeopardy from past dealings and current litigation that is being said can and will implicate him in other wrong doings in our fair County. You are NOT SAFE with this Sheriff and/or a handful of narcissistic sociopaths who have infiltrated his regime. Let the RAIDER TRAINING begin, more deaths to happen as we have surely spun this without public record over the last 8 months. Surely as I am alive we will be having folks come forward to scrutinize!

P.S. I want to just say Thank You personally to the Prosecutor from Cuyahoga County to take the little time he took with little involvement I am sure in this fiasco. Job well done placing the BLAME where it don’t belong, now you have 3 more victims you have laid blame on for the death of their husband, mother, father, and the countless family members. You should be so proud????

Maybe the NEXT CONflict of interest you can investigate why our late Prosecutor’s office called for executive session while NOBODY assigned from his office showed up? Then you have the minutes that depicted the public was shut out yet Donald Zehner and an Attorney was there for unknown reasons to the public with Al from the MNJ depicting privacy due to Sunshine Laws??? What the hell is going on here is the better question our group will be investigating and watching so don’t be surprised more lies being made up to silence. They tried the CONventional way of silencing this group by spreading lies and deception with a fictitious character called Drew Tyler who also can be found on my website, yet local LEO’s and Admins refuse to locate for questioning. Maybe if you read this you can find this person?, surely they hold the keys to the curtain they hide behind, hell they are probably the mastermind behind much of the deception here? They after all enjoy screwing with the public under this guise that nobody will look into who has said time and time again this will continue on the premise of “prove it” – Well, we could IF LAW ENFORCEMENT DID THEIR JOB, RIGHT?

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/questionpolitics.html

Have a nice day! – Our community is growing and soon we will have integrity brought back to justice as more who are wronged by this corrupt Executive Branch take over unite!  

As the saying goes…”UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL”

Timothy J. McGinty
CUYAHOGA COUNTY PROSECUTOR

SPECIAL PROSECUTOR’S REPORT CONCERNING THE DEATH OF BRIAN GARBER
On September 3, 2014, the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office was appointed by the Richland County Court of Common Pleas to conduct an investigation into the circumstances of the death of Brian Garber. Consistent with this mandate, the following facts and circumstances were examined and analyzed.1 These relevant facts are assembled on a timeline, followed by the appropriate findings as dictated by the evidence.
On March 16, 2014, three Richland County Sheriff’s Deputies, Sgt. James Nicholson, Deputy Raymond Frazier, and Deputy Andrew Knee fired their weapons during an encounter with Brian Garber at 3400 Mill Run Rd., Lexington, Ohio, resulting in Garber’s death. The events leading to this incident are as follows:
March 14, 2014 20:54:44 to 23:14:12
Brian Garber sent a series of text messages to his wife, Sara Knowlton, in which Brian complained about Sara’s relationship with her boyfriend. Brian concluded by texting Sara that he was ending their relationship.
March 15, 2014 7:14:25 to 20:50:25
Brian Garber and Sara Knowlton exchanged text messages about having to find money to pay a nanny. The two also discussed Brian purchasing marijuana and an item for Sara referred to as “7.5,” which is a street name for hydrocodone. At various points during the day, Sara asked Brian if he was sleeping and threatened to “call the cops” to check on him.
1This report draws from the work of the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation. A team of investigators, led by Special Agent Cory Momcholov, conducted an extensive and thorough evaluation of the evidence in this case. Additionally, Investigators from the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office assisted BCI in interviewing witnesses. The State is grateful to the professional and exhaustive work of these investigators. Additionally, Richland County officials were wise to recognize a conflict of interest in this case and to request a neutral investigation by outside agencies.

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March 16, 2014 8:32:41 to 18:28:26
Sara sent Brian a series of increasingly hostile text messages about him sleeping, endangering their children, and overdrawing their bank account. Sara confronted Brian about finding klonopin pills, which she accused Brian of abusing. Sara texted Brian, asking him if the couple’s infant daughter had died because he had been high on the pills. This caused Brian to become irate. Sara continued to tell Brian he should have saved her some money, causing Brian to continue to insult Sara and complain about her relationship with her boyfriend. Sara threatened to call Brian’s psychiatrist and probation officer, causing Brian to respond and tell Sara that all she cares about is money. Brian again told Sara to stop blaming him for their infant’s death. Sara told Brian he has to stay with his mother. Brian then told Sara that he was ending their relationship. Sara told Brian that she flushed his pills, and Brian responded by telling her that she needs to leave. Sara refused and instead instructed Brian to live with his mother. Sara told Brian multiple times that she was not angry with him, but that he shouldn’t take klonopin pills. Brian accused Sara of allowing his mother to manipulate and control him.
March 16, 2014: Sara Knowlton’s first call to 911
At 7:02 p.m. on March 16, 2014, Connie Garber placed a frantic call to 911, saying “Get the cops here, 3425 Mill Run Road * * * [w]e got a nut here, get the cops.” Mrs. Garber told the dispatcher that her son was “going nuts on us, beating on me and everything, he is breaking stuff.” When asked for information, Garber handed the phone to Sara Knowlton, who told the dispatcher that her husband, Brian Garber, broke down a door and was “beating his mother and strangling me.” Sara told the dispatcher that she believed Brian was high on klonopin. 911 dispatched Sheriff’s deputies to the scene.
Either during or immediately following the incident, Sara Knowlton sent a text message indicating that Brian attacked her and is going to jail. In the text message, Knowlton claimed that she was hurt and wanted the recipient of the message to come get her.
March 16, 2014, 19:10 hours
Deputy James Berry, Lt. Donald Zehner and Deputy Andrew Knee responded to the 911 call at 3425 Mill Run Rd. By the time they arrived, Brian Garber had left the scene. Deputy Knee observed a red mark on Connie Garber’s upper chest that he believed was an injury caused by Brian Garber, and photographs the injury. Deputy Knee spoke to both women about filling out paperwork to press Domestic Violence charges. Both women filled out and sign paperwork. Connie Garber’s affidavit stated that her son “hit me in the left arm and chest,” and Sara Knowlton’s affidavit stated that Brian “[b]roke in the door attacked me by strangling me and pushing me down.” Matthew Garber arrived and told Connie and Sara that he didn’t think they should press charges against Brian. Deputy Knee told Matthew to return to his car

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and not to interfere with the situation. Deputies began searching the surrounding area for Brian Garber with the intent to arrest him for domestic violence.
March 16, 2014 20:15:27 to 20:21:48
Brian Garber texted Sara “just so u know I have a gun now too… so DON’T fuck with me!!!!” Brian followed up with “those pussy cops can throw me in jail put me in prison…it doesn’t matter what they do cuz once im out…. U R DEAD!!! * * * and believe me im not afraid of prison I think I would like a big black dick inside me actually hell I wouldnt mind finding some poor young victim * * * 2 anally rape myself.”
March 16 2014: Connie and Matthew Garber’s confrontation with Brian Garber
After the completion of the domestic violence packets at 3425 Mill Run Road, Connie and Matthew Garber returned to their home at 3400 Mill Run Rd., across the street from the home where Brian Garber and Sara Knowlton lived with their two children. When they entered the house, they saw Brian’s shoes and realized that he was in their home. Both Connie and Matthew proceeded upstairs to Brian’s old bedroom, where they saw Brian sitting upright on the bed. They observed that he has been drinking a can of beer. Both Connie and Matthew told Brian he shouldn’t be drinking and that he needed to get help. Brian told Connie and Matthew that “you wouldn’t want to see what’s under my shirt, I’ll just shoot you.” Brian also told Connie and Matthew that he knew the cops are coming. Both Connie and Matthew saw Brian holding something under his t-shirt. Although Connie was skeptical that Brian was holding a gun, Matthew believed that what Brian has under his shirt was a gun. Matthew described seeing Brian pointing what he thought was a gun at him and Connie from under his shirt. Matthew told investigators that he did not believe Brian was pointing his finger. Matthew and Connie left the room. Matthew then told Connie, “maybe you should tell [the officers] to come back and that he could possibly have a weapon.” Connie took the children in her car and left Matthew at the house. She then went back across the street where she told Sara Knowlton that Brian “has a gun, call 911.” Connie then left with Sara and Brian’s children.
March 16, 2014: Sara Knowlton’s Second Call to 911
At approximately 8:12 p.m. on March 16, 2014, Sara called 911 a second time and told the dispatcher that her husband Brian was at 3400 Mill Run Rd. and had a gun. As a result, deputies were dispatched to the scene again. Sara told the dispatcher she was all alone with a broken door, and the dispatcher told Sara to barricade herself by pushing something up against the door. Sara could be heard to be crying and frantically pushing an object in the background, which Sara told the dispatcher is a washing machine. When asked why she thinks Brian has a gun, Sara told the dispatcher “He just text[ed] and said he had one and then he went up there and showed his parents, so my mother-in-law took our kids, put them in the car and ran.” Sara also told the dispatcher that Connie did not think that Brian was really

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holding a gun. Sara repeated Brian’s text message to the dispatcher, stating “those pussy cops can throw me in jail put me in prison it doesn’t matter what they do because once I am out you’re dead.” Sara also repeated the other text messages from Brian. Sara assured the dispatcher that Connie took the children away from the house. The dispatcher had Sara stay on the line until officers arrived. While on the line, Sara heard that shots had been fired from the background of the call.
Dispatch records show that as a result of Knowlton’s second 911 call, deputies were notified to respond back to the area at 20:14:35 p.m. on March 16, 2014.
March 16, 2014: Lt. Zehner’s account of shooting
Lt. Zehner stated that after he and Deputy Knee left the area, he received a dispatch informing deputies that Brian Garber was back at Mill Run Road, and that a text message was sent from Brian’s mother to Sara that Brian has a gun. Zehner arrived on scene at 3400 Mill Run Road and took command, sending one deputy to the rear of the house. According to dispatch records, Zehner advised dispatch that he was on the scene at 8:20:25 p.m. All of the deputies and officers who arrived were in full uniform. Sgt. Nicholson proceeded into the garage and they were met near the door by Matthew Garber, who told them that Brian was in the upstairs bedroom.
According to dispatch records, Zehner advised dispatch to hold radio traffic (due to the handling of an ongoing emergency) at 8:22:20 p.m. Zehner, Knee, Frazier, and Nicholson entered the house and proceeded upstairs. Zehner told Deputy Knee to remain with Sgt. Nicholson due to his status as a trainee. Zehner was following the other three deputies, and heard someone say “he’s got a gun” and “drop the gun.” From his position at the top of the stairs, Zehner could not hear Brian’s voice but said that he heard one of the deputies tell Brian “I have family, you have family, we don’t want to kill each other” and “put the gun down.” Zehner stated that he heard deputies say several times “put down the gun,” followed by shots being fired. Zehner stated that he saw the three deputies in the doorway standing shoulder to shoulder, and that he could not tell who was firing their weapons. According to dispatch records, at 8:23:55 p.m., Zehner then radioed dispatch that shots had been fired. Zehner then entered the bedroom where the shooting occurred and commanded Deputies Frazier and Knee and Sgt. Nicholson to go downstairs. He checked Brian Garber for signs of life, and it was clear he was dead. Zehner did not see a gun when he entered the room. When an EMT arrived, Zehner escorted him to the room where the EMT placed pads on Brian Garber’s body to check for vital signs. Zehner later accompanied Assistant Prosecutor Bambi Couch Page to the bedroom in order for her to inspect the scene.
March 16, 2014: Deputy James Berry’s account of the shooting
Deputy Berry had been the first officer to arrive at the initial 911 call for help at 3425 Mill Run Road, and had assisted in the unsuccessful search for Brian Garber.

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Shortly after Deputy Berry left, he received a radio dispatch call that the suspect’s mother was texting the suspect’s wife that he was in the house with a firearm, and the wife was afraid that the suspect would kill her. Berry recalled hearing the dispatcher describe a text that “It doesn’t matter what the cops do, once I get out of jail you’re dead.” When he got to 3425 Mill Run Road, he learned that Brian Garber was in the residence at 3400 Mill Run Road. All of the deputies proceeded up the driveway together. At the scene, Deputy Berry took up a position at the rear of the house in case Garber attempted to flee into that area. While behind the house, he saw a light turn on upstairs. Thinking Garber might try to jump out of a window, Berry watched the window but then heard shots. Berry thought 10 seconds went by between the light coming on and the gunshots. Berry proceeded into the house and saw Lexington and Bellville officers speaking with Matthew Garber. At Lt. Zehner’s instruction, Berry took up a position at the end of the driveway and began a log of all persons entering the scene.
March 16, 2014: Officer Jason Hutchison’s account of the shooting
Bellville Police Officer Jason Hutchison received a dispatch to respond to 3400 Mill Run Road to provide assistance to Richland County Sheriff’s Deputies in response to a male with a gun threatening his family. He was present when deputies went inside, and was near the stairs when shots went off. Hutchison and another Bellville Police Office accompanied Matthew Garber outside after the shooting, and remained with him until detectives could respond and interview him. Matthew Garber told Hutchison “I don’t know where he had a gun,” and “had it under his shirt, I know he had a gun.”
March 16, 2014: Captain Troy Weaver’s account of the shooting
Capt. Weaver, of the Lexington Police Department, received a call from the Richland County Sheriff’s Department to assist their units in a situation involving an armed man. Weaver responded with Lexington Patrol Officer Beasley to 3400 Mill Run Road. Captain Weaver entered the residence when several deputies were already talking to a male on the second floor. As Weaver waited at the bottom of the steps, he heard Lt. Zehner say that the male had a gun. Weaver also heard a voice that he believed to be Sgt. Nicholson say “[w]e all have families, don’t do it.” Weaver stated that he then heard 5 to 6 gunshots. Weaver thought that the duration of time when he heard deputies were speaking with the suspect to the point of the gunshots lasted one to two minutes.
March 16, 2014: Officer Michael Beasley’s account of the shooting
Lexington Police Patrol Officer Michael Beasley responded to the initial domestic violence call at 3425 Mill Run Road to assist Sheriff’s deputies. Officer Beasley assisted in the unsuccessful search for Brian Garber. After leaving, Beasley received a dispatch call that Richland County was going back to the area because family members had located Garber at 3400 Mill Run Road and that Garber had a gun.

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Beasley arrived near the scene of 3400 Mill Run Road along with Capt. Weaver and waited at the city limits until other deputies met them and requested assistance. Both Weaver and Beasley proceeded with deputies to 3400 Mill Run Road. Beasley accompanied Weaver to the base of the stairs while other deputies were upstairs. Beasley could hear one of the deputies attempting to talk Garber into surrendering. Beasley stated he could hear a deputy say “You don’t have to do this, and “we all have families.” Beasley told Matthew Garber that he needed to leave the residence. At that point, Beasley heard shots being fired and then grabbed Matthew Garber and escorted him out of the residence. Beasley said that outside, Matthew Garber stated that he had found his son in the house and had seen that he was holding a handgun in his coat. Beasley was unable to provide a time frame of how much time had elapsed during the incident.
March 16, 2014: Bambi Couch Page’s response to the shooting
Following the shooting, then Assistant Richland County Prosecutor Bambi Couch Page received notification from another Assistant Richland County Prosecutor that a shooting had occurred at 3400 Mill Run Road. Ms. Couch Page and then-Richland County Prosecutor James Mayer, Jr. went to the scene in order to observe and provide advice. Ms. Couch Page, accompanied by Lt. Zehner, observed Brian Garber’s body and noted the presence of a remote control unit2 on the bed. Prosecutor Mayer and APA Couch Page advised Richland County Sheriff, J. Steve Sheldon, to request that the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation (“BCI”) conduct an investigation into the shooting to avoid any conflict of interest. Sheldon agreed and requested that BCI agents respond to the scene. APA Couch Page also received notice that an Investigator with the Richland County Coroner’s office had been notified of the shooting and wanted to know if the body could be retrieved. APA Couch Page notified officers that no Richland County Coroner’s employee could enter the scene or retrieve the body until BCI Agents had an opportunity to arrive, collect evidence, and document the scene. BCI crime scene technicians were unable to respond to the scene until several hours after the incident because they were coming from another area of the State where they had been handling a separate case.
March 16, 2014: Sgt. James Nicholson’s statement
After having been advised of his rights, Sgt. James Nicholson agreed to voluntarily provide a written statement and an interview to BCI and CCPO investigators. Sgt. Nicholson initially responded to the Domestic Violence call at 3425 Mill Run Road, where he arrived and assisted Deputy Berry in the unsuccessful foot search for Brian Garber. Sgt. Nicholson spoke to a neighbor, who had seen a person wearing
2The “remote control” unit belonged to a toy car. There were three remote control toy cars in the closet of the bedroom where the shooting occurred. Including the device found on the bed, Investigators also found two other remote control devices in the closet accompanying the three toy cars.

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dark clothes run across the yard and into the street. Sgt. Nicholson left the scene upon completion of the domestic violence packets.
About a half hour later, Sgt. Nicholson received the dispatch that the suspect had been located at 3400 Mill Run Road by his parents, and had a firearm in his possession. Upon return to the area, Sgt. Nicholson met Lt. Zehner, as well as Deputies Frazier, Berry, and Knee. Nicholson knocked and entered the open garage door of the residence and encountered Matthew Garber. Sgt. Nicholson stated that he asked Matthew Garber if Brian Garber was present, and told Matthew that they had a signed domestic violence packet against Brian. According to Nicholson, Matthew Garber then directed the officers to the stairs and indicated that Brian was upstairs. Nicholson stated that he climbed the stairway, and found Garber sitting in the last bedroom on the left with both hands hidden from view. He stated that the light was off, and he could see Garber sitting on the bed with his back to the headboard. Nicholson stated that he moved into the doorway and turned the light on. Brian Garber then told Nicholson that he had a gun. Nicholson stated that Deputy Knee was standing in the doorway to the left of him, and Deputy Frazier moved past them and entered the room. Nicholson said Garber was very agitated and his eyes were extremely large. He saw an object under Garber’s shirt that appeared to him to be the frame of a Glock handgun. Nicholson asked Garber to show him his hands, and he said no. Nicholson told him that “we all have families here, and that we would take him to the hospital to get him help.” Garber replied “fuck them.” Nicholson plead with Garber “don’t do this,” but Garber stated “fuck them,” “no one can help,” “shoot me,” and “kill me.” Nicholson stated that he told Garber that isn’t going to happen and again told Garber to drop the gun.”
Nicholson stated after a short pause, he heard a loud “bang,” which he believed to have been a firearm being shot from Garber’s direction. At the same time Nicholson heard the bang, he also saw Garber’s hand jerk the object beneath his shirt. Nicholson then started firing. After two shots, Nicholson noticed that his gun had malfunctioned and upon inspection, found that his hand had pressed the magazine release button, causing his magazine to fall on the floor. The gunshots caused Garber to slump against the wall, although Nicholson could still not see what he had been holding under his shirt. Deputy Frazier, after shooting stopped, radioed “shots fired.” Lt. Zehner then came in, telling them not to touch anything and instructed Knee to go get the camera. Zehner stated that he would handle radio traffic and photos, and told Nicholson, Knee and Frazier to go downstairs.
Nicholson stated that shortly after the incident, Frazier stated that he thought he had been hit by a bullet. Nicholson was present when Frazier removed his vest to inspect, but no impacts could be found in the area where Frazier thought he felt pressure.
Nicholson stated that during the encounter with Brian Garber, he believed that his life as well as the lives of his fellow deputies had been threated, and that he believed

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that Garber was in possession of a firearm based on the information he had a the time.
March 16, 2014: Deputy Andrew Knee’s statement
Deputy Andrew Knee agreed to voluntarily provide a written statement to BCI and CCPO investigators. Deputy Knee stated that he had responded with Lt. Zehner during the initial Domestic Violence call to 3425 Mill Run Road. He had interviewed both Sara Knowlton and Connie Garber, had observed and photographed Connie Garber’s injuries, and filled out the domestic violence packet that both Sara Knowlton and Connie Garber signed. After completing the packets, Knee and Zehner left towards their station intending to complete the paperwork from the incident. While en route, they received a radio dispatch that Garber was back at the residence with a firearm. Knee recalled that dispatcher had stated that Brian told his wife that “police can do what they want when they get here but I will kill [Sara] when I get out.” After initially responding to 3425 Mill Run Road, Knee and the other deputies met and realized that Garber was across the street at 3400 Mill Run Road, where Garber’s parents lived. The deputies then proceeded to 3400 Mill Run Road.
Knee stated that the deputies proceeded through the open garage door, with Nicholson in the lead. Zehner told Knee to stick with Nicholson, who met Matthew Garber at the interior door. Matthew Garber told the deputies they could find Brian in the upstairs bedroom. Knee stated that Nicholson proceeded up the stairs first, followed by Knee, Zehner, and Frazier. Sgt. Nicholson and Deputy Knee first entered the bedroom where Garber was, and Knee could see that Garber was sitting on the bed with his back on the headboard. Knee recalled Garber talking first, stating “I’ve got a gun.”
Knee then pressed his body against the wall in the hallway against the left side of the doorframe leading into the room, with his firearm pointed at Garber. Nicholson was on his right in the door frame, and Frazier entered the room itself and took up a position directly facing Garber. Knee could see that Garber had a rectangular shaped object pressed against the underside of his shirt, which Knee thought did not look like his fingers. Knee could not see Garbers’ right hand. Knee recalled Nicholson stating words to the effect of “we all have families, it doesn’t need to go down like this.” Knee stated they tried to reason with Garber and get him to show his hands, but he would not. Knee stated that he heard a loud bang, which caused him to believe that a shot had been fired. That caused Knee to fire his weapon. After the incident, Knee inspected his magazine and determined that he fired three rounds. Knee indicated he entered the room to check on Deputy Frazier, who he could not see during the shooting. Deputy Frazier said he felt an impact on his Torso. Knee stated that Frazier then told him to clear the room and go downstairs until BCI could respond. Knee turned his weapon over to BCI investigators.

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March 16, 2014: Deputy Raymond Frazier’s Statement
After having been advised of his rights, Deputy Raymond Frazier agreed to voluntarily provide a written statement and an interview to BCI and CCPO investigators. Like Sgt. Nicholson and Deputy Knee, Deputy Frazier initially responded to 3425 Mill Run Road and participated in the unsuccessful search for Brian Garber. Frazier then left the area and resumed patrol. A short time later, Frazier received the dispatch report indicating that Garber had returned to 3425 Mill Run Road and that Garber’s wife and mother were both indicating he had a gun. When he arrived in the vicinity of 3400 Mill Run Road, Frazier was advised by Lt. Zehner that Garber was on the top of the hill, which Zehner indicated was the residence at 3400 Mill Run Road. Frazier pulled into the driveway and made contact with Nicholson, Zehner,and Knee. Lt. Zehner instructed Knee to fall in behind Nicholson, who went into the garage and spoke with Matthew Garber. Frazier understood from the conversation that Matthew Garber let the deputies in and directed them upstairs to the last bedroom on the left.
Frazier indicated that Nicholson went up the stairs, followed by Knee and himself. Frazier advised Matthew Garber to stay downstairs until they made contact with Brian Garber. Frazier saw Nicholson stop at the doorway to the bedroom where they located Brian Garber. Nicholson entered the room and turned the light on. Frazier approached and could see that Garber was sitting upright on the bed, with his back towards but not touching the headboard of the bed. Frazier stated that as soon as he stepped into the bedroom, Garber made eye contact with him and said “I have a gun.” Frazier then drew his weapon. Frazier could see Garber wearing a dark T-Shirt, jeans, and white socks. Frazier could see Garber was holding a square-shaped object under his shirt that appeared to be the end of a Glock-style handgun. Frazier stated that Garber was told to show his hands and drop his weapon, and that Frazier told him to do so repeatedly. Frazier stated that Garber indicated that he would not drop his weapon and said they were going to have to kill him. Frazier said that Garber used his right hand to push his shirt out and said that he had a gun in there. Frazier could remember Sgt. Nicholson pleading with him to drop his weapon, telling Garber that they all had families and Garber’s family cared about him. Frazier estimated that the encounter lasted a minute or two. Frazier admitted that by entering the room farther than Nicholson or Knee, he placed himself within Garber’s line of fire and was totally exposed if Garber had a weapon.
Frazier stated that he saw Garber bring something out from under his shirt which he thought was a weapon. Frazier stated that as Garber extended his right hand to him, he heard a loud popping sound. Frazier also stated, however, that “I only fired my weapon after I observed Garber start to lift his shirt and presented what appeared to me to be the weapon he said he had.” Frazier explained that he “heard a popping sound which sounded to me like a firearm’s discharge.” Frazier also explained that “[w]hen Garber brought was a weapon from underneath his shirt and the pop went off, I honestly thought I was going to die.” Frazier stated he fired 8-10 rounds and saw Nicholson’s weapon malfunction. Frazier saw Garber slump

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against the wall and then stopped shooting. Lt. Zehner came into the room and ordered them downstairs. Frazier thought something had struck his torso, which he believed might have been a gunshot. Frazier and Sgt. Nicholson inspected Frazier’s vest, and they could find no impacts.
March 16-17 and March 24, 2014: Sara Knowlton’s text message communications about the shooting and subsequent interview
Shortly after the incident, Sara Knowlton began texting numerous people, stating that “the cops shot Brian.” Sara told one person that Brian “aimed the gun at [Connie] and Matt so they ran.” Sara also told another person that Brian “pulled a gun on them. He said he was coming for me.” Sara told yet another person that Brian “has mental issues and aimed a gun at the police in his parent’s house. They shot him.” She also told another person that Brian “was coming” for her. She tells another person that Brian “pulled a gun on the cops.” Within 24 hours of the shooting, Sara also texted Brian’s employer to tell him that Brian was dead. Sara asked Brian’s employer if any money was still owed to Brian.
The next day, however, Sara then texted someone that the police “didn’t even talk to brian. They started shooting right away.” Sara also texted another number that “He has text on his phone about buying pills,” followed by a subsequent text to the same number, “Sent to me.” Sara also texted another number that “[t]he gun was meant for me. He meant to kill me last night.” She also texts yet another person that “The gun was meant for me. He had it hidden upstairs. He told his mom that he was getting rid of me.” She also texted someone that “I guess he hid the gun upstairs to kill me last night.”
On March 24, 2014, Sara gave an interview to BCI investigators. During the interview, Sara minimized the extent of her text message communications about the incident, indicating that she had only sent messages to her best friend, father, and Brian’s employer about the incident. BCI Investigators obtained a search warrant of her cellular telephone account, which revealed that she had sent far more text messages than she indicated during her statement. Knowlton also denied that Brian had strangled her during the initial domestic violence incident. Additionally, investigators asked Knowlton if she had been in any other romantic relationships with other men at the time, which Knowlton denied. Knowlton then paused the interview, and came back in and admitted that if the investigators question included sexual relationships, then she had been in such a relationship with another man at the time of her husband’s death. Finally, investigators asked Knowlton if she had any knowledge of Brian using illegal drugs. Knowlton denied any such knowledge, despite the fact that she texted him before his death asking him to buy four

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hydrocodone pills. Knowlton also sent a text message after Brian Garber’s death expressing concern that his phone had evidence of “buying pills.”3
Autopsy of Brian Garber and Forensic analysis of bullets
Summit County Medical Examiner, Dr. Lisa Kohler performed the autopsy of Brian Garber’s body. She determined that his body showed 14 entrance wounds and six exit wounds. Eight bullets were recovered from Brian Garber’s body. Dr. Kohler indicated that multiple entrance wounds could have been caused by a single bullet exiting then reentering the body. Kohler indicated that Brian Garber had multiple fatal wounds, including a gunshot wounds to the heart, lung, and abdomen. Kohler indicated that it was difficult to obtain a sufficient sample of blood for toxicology screening due to the large amount of blood loss, but that toxicology results showed that Brian Garber had the chemical indicators of marijuana and morphine in his system. Kohler could not determine when Brian Garber had ingested these substances, or whether he was impaired at the time of his death. The toxicology results did not show evidence of any alcohol or klonopin. Kohler indicated, however, that a pharmaceutical dose of klonopin would fall below the threshold necessary to show up on a toxicology screen, and alcohol would not necessarily be present in Brian Garber’s blood if he had died without metabolizing the alcohol that he consumed immediately before dying. Forensic analysis showed that several of the bullets recovered in Garber’s body could be attributed to the handguns of both Knee and Frazier. It was impossible to forensically determine whether any of Nicholson’s shots had penetrated Brian Garber’s body due to the fact that multiple bullets were not recovered.
Legal Analysis of the Deputies Use of Deadly Force
The determination of whether the police used excessive force is governed by a federal constitutional standard set forth by the United States Supreme Court. The Court indicated that all claims that law enforcement officers have used excessive force—deadly or not—in the course of an arrest, investigation stop, or other ‘seizure’ of a free citizen should be analyzed under the Fourth Amendment and its ‘reasonableness’ standard. Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386, 395, 109 S. Ct. 1865, 1871, 104 L.Ed.2d 443 (1989). The Fourth Amendment states, “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated***. “A Fourth Amendment seizure occurs when there is a governmental termination of freedom of movement through means intentionally applied.” Brower v. County of Inyo, 489 U.S. 593, 596-597, 109 S. Ct. 1378, 103 L.Ed.2d 628 (1989). The police use of deadly force when making an arrest is a seizure under the Fourth Amendment. Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1, 105 S.Ct. 1694, 85 L.Ed.2d. 1 (1985). Plumhoff v. Ricdkard, Sup. Ct. No. 12-1117 (May 27, 2014).
3Sara Knowlton’s misleading statements to investigators did not alter the course of the investigation and did not ultimately hinder BCI’s ability to provide a thorough and accurate accounting of the facts and circumstances of Brian Garber’s death.

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However, the police can only use deadly force in making an arrest where the police have probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of death or serious bodily harm to the police or to public. In determining whether each deputy sheriff had probable cause to believe that Brian Garber posed a threat of death or great bodily harm to the police, the required perspective is that of the “reasonable officer on the scene,” standing in the officer’s shoes, perceiving what he then perceived and acting within the limits of his knowledge or information as it then existed. Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386, 395, 109 S.Ct. 1865, 1871, 104 L.Ed.2d. 443 (1989).
What is a “reasonable” belief in light of the officer’s perceptions could also be a mistaken belief, and the fact that it turned out to be mistaken does not detract from its reasonableness when considered within the factual context and compressed time-frame of his decision to act. State v. White, 6th Dist. No. L-10-1194, 2013-Ohio-51, (Ohio Supreme Court jurisdiction granted, May 22, 2013) citing Saucier v. Katz, 533 U.S. 194, 205-206, 121 S.Ct. 2151, 150 L.Ed.2d. 272 (2001); “If an officer reasonably perceived a threat of attack by a suspect, apart from the actual attack, to which the officer may respond preemptively. If his perceptions were objectively reasonable, he incurs no criminal liability even if no weapon was seen, or the suspect was later found to be unarmed, or if what the officer mistook for a weapon was something innocuous.” White at ¶ 65. (Citations omitted).
Courts are generally hesitant to second-guess the decisions made by police officers in the field. Vaughan v. Cox, 343 F.3d 1323, 1331 (11th Cir. 2003). “A court must avoid substituting its personal notions of proper police procedure for the instantaneous decision made by the officer at the scene.” Gammon v. Blakely (Dec. 4, 1997), unreported 8th Dist. No. 72175. This constitutional standard applies to the criminal prosecution of police officers that allegedly used excessive force when arresting a suspect. State v. White, supra; United States v. Reese, 2 F.3d 870 (9th Cir. 1993); State v. Mantelli, 42 P.3d 272, 131 N.M. 692, (N.M. App. 2002). United States v. Brugman, 364 F.3d 613 (5th Cir. 2004) [Border patrol agent sentenced to 27 months imprisonment for beating illegal immigrant after arrest.]
The legal review required is an analysis from all the deputies’ perspectives at the time the split second decision to use deadly force was made. All three deputies had been at 3425 Mill Run Road approximately 45 minutes before the shooting. At the initial domestic violence incident, all three deputies learned that Brian Garber had recently kicked in the back door to his house, struck his mother, Connie Garber, with enough force to leave a large red mark on her chest. The deputies also learned that Brian Garber had pushed and strangled his wife, Sara Knowlton. Based on this incident, the deputies knew that Brian Garber was not only prone to violence, but was also likely to be under the influence of a drug that made him, in Sara Knowlton’s description, “mean.”
When dispatchers communicated with the deputies to return to Mill Run Road approximately 30 minutes later, the information given to them at that point was that Brian Garber had shown a gun to his parents and had texted his wife (Sara Knowlton) that he had a gun. Garber was texting that if he went to jail when he got out he would kill his wife.

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Deputies also had their prior knowledge that they obtained during the initial Domestic Violence call about Brian Garber’s violent behavior.
At that point before they even encountered Brian Garber in his bedroom, all of the deputies on scene had an objectively reasonable belief that they were about to encounter a violent individual who was likely high on drugs, who had previously assaulted his mother and wife, and who now had armed himself with a gun. These undisputed facts formed the basis for the deputies’ belief that they were about to encounter an armed suspect at 3400 Mill Run Road. Once they arrived at 3400 Mill Run Road (Connie and Matt Garber’s home), Matthew Garber met the officers at the door and led them to the stairs leading to where they could find his son.
The deputies approached the room single file with Sgt. Nicholson in the lead, followed by Deputies Frazier and Knee. Lieutenant Zehner stopped at the landing of the stairs. Lexington Police Captain Weaver and Lexington Patrol Officer Beasley were at the bottom of the stairs during the incident.
As Sgt. Nicholson approached the room, the lights were off and he could see Brian Garber sitting upright on the bed in front of the headboard. All three deputies described Brian Garber as agitated. Sgt. Nicholson described Brian Garber’s eyes being “as wide as saucers.” After turning on the light, Sgt. Nicholson asked Brian to show his hands. At that point, Sgt. Nicholson took position to the right of the doorway with Deputy Knee on the left side of the doorway. Deputy Frazier stepped past both Sgt. Nicholson and Deputy Knee and took a position inside the room directly facing Brian Garber.
Brian Garber immediately stated he had a gun and all three deputies saw a rectangular-shaped object under his shirt. Brian Garber then made movements with the object, which all three deputies believed to have been a Glock-style handgun due to the size and shape of the object. Sgt. Nicholson asked Brian Garber to show his hands multiple times and Brian Garber’s response each time was “no.” Sgt. Nicholson pleaded with Brian Garber telling him “don’t do this, we all have families here”, and stated that “we are here to help” and would take him to the hospital.
Brian Garber’s response was to say “fuck them,” to keep his hands hidden from view, and kept pointing the object at the deputies. Brian Garber then stated “no one can help” and said “shoot me”, “kill me.” Sergeant Nicholson said that isn’t going to happen and again asked Brian Garber to drop what the deputies believed was a gun.
Captain Troy Weaver of the Lexington Police Department was at the bottom of the stairs and heard a voice he believed was Sgt. Nicholson say “we’ve all got families don’t do it.” Additionally, Officer Michael Beasley of the Lexington Police Department also heard the deputies attempting to talk Garber into surrendering and heard “you don’t have to do this” and “we’ve all got families.” Richland County Sheriff’s Lieutenant Donald Zehner also heard commands of his deputies to “put down the gun” multiple times. The interaction between Brian Garber and deputies lasted approximately 95 seconds. Dispatch records demonstrate that Lt. Zehner requested to hold radio traffic at 20:22:20 (or 8:22:22 p.m.)

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due to the ongoing emergency. Then, at 20:23:55 (or 8:23:55 p.m.), Lt. Zehner reported shots fired.
A subsequent search of the bedroom by BCI indicated that Brian Garber was not armed, but had a remote control to a toy car which was found next to his body. Photographs taken immediately after the incident show the remote control unit on the bed. BCI Investigators compared the shape of the remote control found next to Garber’s body that to a real glock handgun. When both objects were observed underneath the outline of clothing, the remote control and the handgun appeared to be nearly identical. The rectangular shape of the remote is what all the deputies referenced seeing before firing their guns.
During their encounter with Brian Garber, all three deputies had objective facts that would lead any reasonable person to believe that Brian Garber had a gun and intended to use it. Deputy Frazier and Sgt. Nicholson observed Brian Garber make a sudden movement with the object he was holding. At, the same time, they stated they heard a loud bang, which Sgt. Nicholson believed had come from Brian Garber’s direction. At that point, all three deputies returned fire, killing Brian Garber. All three deputies believed Garber had shot at them. It is absolutely clear that the deputies who discharged their weapons had sufficient facts, especially when looking at the totality of the events, to form a reasonable and objective belief that Brian Garber had a gun which he intended to use, and that their lives were in danger.
Based upon the evidence uncovered during the investigation, there is also a reasonable possibility that Deputy Frazier fired his gun first in response to a sudden movement by Brian Garber with the object hidden under his shirt. Deputy Frazier unwisely put himself directly in the in the line of fire with no tactical cover. In his statement, he described seeing Brian Garber’s sudden movement at the same time he heard the loud bang. Since subsequent investigation revealed that Garber had no real weapon (and could not have fired a shot at the officers) the loud bang can only reasonably be explained by one of the officers firing in response to Brian Garber’s sudden movement. BCI Investigators examined Brian Garber’s iPhone, and could find no audio files which would account for the loud bang that the deputies described. DNA and fingerprint analysis of the remote control was inconclusive, but did not rule out Brian Garber having handled the object. Nevertheless, the State believes that Frazier’s discharge of his weapon was objectively reasonable because he perceived an imminent threat to his life and the lives of his fellow officer when Brian Garber made a sudden movement with an object that Frazier thought was a gun.
Brian Garber’s statements and actions prior to the encounter with the deputies, as well as his refusal to follow the police commands to show his hands and his brandishing of an object that he claimed was a gun, demonstrate a significant likelihood that Brian Garber intended to provoke the deputies’ use of deadly force.
Matthew Garber’s initial statement after the shooting also sheds light on his son’s actions and corroborates the deputies’ reasonable belief that Brian Garber had a gun.

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Matthew Garber was convinced that his son was not poking a finger under his shirt. Even to Matthew Garber’s untrained eye, the rectangular object that both he and the deputies saw underneath Brian Garber’s shirt looked like the outline of a gun.
With the benefit of hindsight, it is possible that this incident could have been handled differently. Nevertheless, the law provides a clear standard to analyze police officers’ use of deadly force (… “a reasonable officer on the scene, standing in the officer’s shoes, perceiving what he perceived and acting within the limits of his knowledge or information as it then existed”). Evidence firmly demonstrates that these deputies had an objectively reasonable belief, based on facts known to them at that time, that Brian Garber had a gun and was an imminent threat to the lives of each deputy.
Therefore, it is the opinion of the State that the March 16, 2014 shooting of Brian Garber by Sgt. James Nicholson, Deputy Andrew Knee, and Deputy Raymond Frazier was justified and that no criminal liability exists regarding the three officers role in the death of Brian Garber. This tragic incident was unfortunate and the State is sensitive to its impact on the Garber family. Nevertheless, a critical examination of the facts and circumstances leading to Brian Garber’s death reveals that the deputies who responded to 3400 Mill Run Road on March 16, 2014 acted within the bounds of the law.

Respectfully submitted,

Timothy J. McGinty Cuyahoga County Prosecuting Attorney

Matthew E. Meyer Assistant Prosecuting Attorney

JamesA. Gutierrez Assistant Prosecuting Attorney

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I wonder what’s taking the Grand Jury so long?, Brian Garber was CLEARLY MURDERED!!!!!

8:15 pm announces has a gun, women safe across the street!!!!! – Parents were said to say he had a gun, yet DID tell Deputy’s they did not see it! What parents told me was he said “you won’t like what was under my shirt” – questioned each other wondering IF he could have a gun? This family didn’t own a gun, not a single firearm in the house!

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8:22pm calls cops pussies, same time Zehner calls for radio silence? MNJ TIMELINE

8:23pm ambulance called?, those who defend these cops say…Problem Solved????

Seriously, what takes a Grand Jury this long to make a decision when they said on the record they took their time trying to call him out, REALLY???? It only takes one minute from the last message he makes to the time they call for an ambulance and we call this sufficient time? There was NO IMMINENT danger to anyone and they knew this, yet there are still people telling CONflicting stories on the streets who have no idea what the hell happened. I talked to the mother and father who were both there. They asked for help with their son and this is the help they get while these thugs friends stand in defense problem solved???

Sorry, but if this uncalled for act goes unpunished we are ALL doomed for what’s to come!

Post your thoughts on this process that’s taken over 8 months to this point! Surely lots of lies coming from this department that need sorted out sadly enough.

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Garber’s family testifying at grand jury this week, Story by Kaitlin Durbin

Direct link to MNJ Article & comments I am sure will not exist?

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Testimony over the deputy shooting death of Brian Garber began Thursday during grand jury at Richland County Courthouse.

Brian’s parents, Connie and Matt Garber, testified Thursday.

The schedule of witnesses left to testify is unknown. Grand jury proceedings are secret, per state law. – What we do know is the witnesses called mother Connie, Father Matt, and widow Sara are ALL being BLAMED for the death of Brian Garber for saying he had a gun?

The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office, which is reviewing the case, subpoenaed 13 witnesses to speak before the grand jury, according to information the News Journal obtained last week. – What’s the guilty party saying? Rumor has it they are saying they announced who they were and Matt Garber who was the only one there is said to be CONfused about what happened – WTH??? They are saying they called this man out and took their time before putting 14 BULLETS INTO AN UNARMED MAN! Something else I am hearing they did not tell the Grand Jury, not sure why that is, but WILL find out! 

I find this to to alarming that they said this did not happen the way Matt said it did, this would implicate them for INDICTMENT if you ask me, so why was the 911 timeline and text messages NOT shared with the Grand Jury? These two CRUCIAL pieces of what we know as the ONLY TRUE PUBLIC records tell quite a differing story than what these Deputies have told. The 911 Timeline says radio traffic was silenced at 8:22pm, Ambulance called at 8:23pm – Funny! – the last text message they shared to the public that I saved as well depicts 8:22pm received meaning they either wrote this or they did not take their time as they so depicted in their concocted story!

Following testimony, the grand jury will decide whether indictments are warranted in the shooting.

Brian Garber, 28, was shot and killed by an unidentified Richland County Sheriff’s deputy around 8:30 p.m. March 16, after his wife called 911 saying he had sent her text messages threatening he had a gun.

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Twitter: @njKaitlin

From what we are hearing which I will validate today the Garber’s are getting BLAMED for the death of their son?, can’t believe this took over 8 months to decide and goes to show Corruption in Cuyahoga County is STILL alive and well being it appears they have dropped the ball in this! The Richland County community is in REAL danger with this kind of legal sham system! I can’t believe Ohio State Law calls for this kind of secrecy for a Grand Jury, IF this little information is being withheld I hope it comes out in a higher authority? Then again when you have a Deputy like Donald Zehner who thinks he’s the higher authority, a non believer in God, his Judgement will be in the way of Karma! Maybe and hopefully in the same way they killed the late James Mayer who’s death 3 days after Donald Zehner and a mysterious Attorney attended a private meeting with commissioners calling it “executive session” protected once again by a Sunshine law – wth is going on here is the question, anyone know? 

MORE ON THIS!!!!

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/questionpolitics.html – BOTTOM OF PAGE

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/resources/September+23$2C+2014+-+Commissioners+Meeting.pdf – Private meeting community was shut out of, THEY say protected by Sunshine Laws???? – NO REASON for Zehner to be there, yet told none of our business???

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/resources/October+16$2C+2014+-+Meeting+Minutes+from+County+Website_unsigned.pdf – Their meeting minutes before the recorder was shut off for public review.

Youtube of what transpired after meeting was called October 16th, most of which left off the record????

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Readers weigh in on ‘Buy American’ by Linda Martz

Readers weigh in on ‘Buy American’

Readers who responded to an unscientific News Journal poll were divided on whether city government should always buy American-made vehicles.

The online survey focused on Mansfield Mayor Tim Theaker’s recent decision to purchase three Nissan vans for use by water repair and utility collection workers.

Dan Mapes, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers, criticized the mayor at two city council meetings for departing from the city’s long-held policy of buying American-made vehicles for municipal use.

Readers were asked what policy they’d favor, among three options:

• Thirty-nine percent of the 87 readers who answered the poll clicked on “Yes, always buy American.”

• A smaller group, 35.6 percent, opted for “The issue isn’t that simple.”

• The smallest group, 25.3 percent, chose “Always go for the lowest price.”

Readers supporting strict “Buy American” policies tended to make a similar argument:

“American manufacturing money stays in America and helps support the infrastructure of cities,” said one person, who did not leave a name.

“We are America and even though the mayor bought local, the company is foreign and all the profits go back to a foreign land, so buying local didn’t keep the money here,” Arnold Salyers said.

“It seems to me that the City of Mansfield, with all its fiscal problems, should understand the value of American manufacturing,” another reader said. “The lost tax base from the loss of manufacturing helped put Mansfield in financial distress. Save $3,000 per van, what does that cost in the big picture?”

“To me when gov buys Non American that is a slap in the face to all our veterans,” said Tammy Clapper.

Readers who responded by saying the issue is complex mentioned a variety of issues:

“Frequently people only see that the “label” is not USA. They don’t seem to realize how many U.S. products are in part manufactured overseas and shipped back for the assembly process,” said a reader who didn’t leave a name. “In the recent past, U.S. automakers charged high prices and put out an inferior product compared to the foreign auto makers. I think this is slowly changing because of the consumer.”

“Not all American-made vehicles have American-made parts,” Deborah Mount wrote. “I would rather know the quality of the vehicles and buy the one (new or used) that is the best value considering the price and repair costs. Will the Nissan vans last well and not need repairs? If so, it may have been a good idea. If they don’t last and cost a lot to repair, it was a bad idea.”

“Lowest price doesn’t mean best deal. You need to look at the total cost of ownership, (i.e. repairs, fuel mileage and price of vehicle),” another reader wrote.

“I’ve owned GM vehicles all my life and my father spent 33 years as an employee of GM,” a reader said. “The day they closed the most efficient GM stamping plant, I said ‘adios’ to buying any more of their products. How many slaps in the face do you take?”

Mansfield Safety-Service Director Lori Cope also was among those who responded by saying the issue is complex. City officials put considerable time and research into the decision, and the repair garage supervisor was asked whether that department could manage Nissan repairs, she said.

“It was not an ‘off the cuff’ purchase, but a well thought one,” Cope wrote. “We struggled as an administration and made a final decision to do what was fiscally responsible for the taxpayers’ money, rather than be concerned with a company who closed its doors and left our city. We answer to the public and cannot allow ourselves to be bullied into spending their money unwisely,” she wrote.

The readers who said government always should opt for lowest price included John Rutledge. “It is a good business decision. It’s about time that the taxpayers’ money was spent properly. Taxpayers are not here to support organized labor. Especially at an additional cost,” he wrote.

“GM left us. They walked away,” said another reader who opted for seeking the lowest price. “It was a business decision; Mansfield made a solid business decision to buy the best priced vehicles to do the job needed. If GM felt any obligation to the area, they would have negotiated a better price.”

“Unions have been fighting for years for fair wages and benefits for existing workers all the while companies have steadily moved production out of the country. Until this is addressed at a national level ‘Buy American’ has little meaning,” said reader Mark Ritchie.

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My thoughts on this is people don’t have faith in the American worker anymore and are willing to buy cheaper throw away items coming from those who actually support terrorism, and we wonder who the terrorist is?

I talk to folks every day, and what do they look at first? That’s right, the cheapest thing they can buy not realizing the ramifications. Surely most of those who have this mindset are those who work for us! They don’t care, they make 7% sales tax on EVERYTHING sold not matter where its made. What THEY don’t realize is they are actually hurting themselves more than helping themselves. This 7% and what THEY pay in taxes is not enough to sustain safety of the people. This would not be a problem if retailers paid their people better so they could be viable tax payers, but they don’t! Retail in general you are seeing a false premise of low prices when people who have lost good factory jobs making these things become those who sell or stock shelves for those who have replaced the American worker. What folks don’t REALIZE is these same people who have lost these jobs they worked hard at are now a liability on the Federal Government though HUGE TAX REFUNDS, which is now the American economy in a nutshell once again that cannot sustain itself. Retailers and their people surely can care less about the Holiday season sales (low profit margins) long hours, it’s the TAX SEASON (see’s high profit margins) people making money paying taxes. Wouldn’t we want to see this all season long, rather than 3 months out of the year?

Maybe those who refute my group know who the terrorists are or have an agenda to where this is heading? Don’t we the American worker have the right to know what this means to our National Security? They know these are menial low pay jobs that cost the Fed, so why not focus on this and fix it?
WE CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE TO SELL OUT OUR CHILDREN ON THE PREMISE WE ARE GOING TO STOP THE BLEEDING CATERING TO THE ELITE AND THEIR NEED TO NOT SHARE THE WEALTH? – OBAMA LIED!!! – MY HEALTHCARE NEARLY DOUBLED AS WELL!, HMMMM? – YES, SCRATCH YOUR HEADS AND SAY HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I SAY ITS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE JUST SAY…UH-HUH????
DEBT CLOCK! –  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, AND KEEP WONDERING WHY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES ARE ERODING, IT’S THE CHEAP SKATES FAULT!!!!! – IN THIS CASE, THE MAYOR OF MANSFIELD – LOL!
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Executive Session put on agenda by Prosecutors Office, yet we still don’t know the question and the people say…uh-huh????

Here we have the Prosecutors office, in this case the late James Mayers office we elected for these matters putting on the agenda “executive session” – really, how about a question so the public knows why the commissioners have to go into executive session?

The Prosecutor’s office called an has added to the agenda an executive session to discuss imminent court action with the Commissioners on Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at 9:30 a.m.Stacey L. Crall, Clerk
Board of Commissioners
Richland County, Ohio
419-774-5551
By Law

121.22 Public meetings – exceptions.

(C) All meetings of any public body are declared to be public meetings open to the public at all times. A member of a public body shall be present in person at a meeting open to the public to be considered present or to vote at the meeting and for purposes of determining whether a quorum is present at the meeting.

The minutes of a regular or special meeting of any public body shall be promptly prepared, filed, and maintained and shall be open to public inspection. The minutes need only reflect the general subject matter of discussions in executive sessions authorized under division (G) or (J) of this section.

(G) Except as provided in divisions (G)(8) and (J) of this section, the members of a public body may hold an executive session only after a majority of a quorum of the public body determines, by a roll call vote, to hold an executive session and only at a regular or special meeting for the sole purpose of the consideration of any of the following matters:

 Did this happen? – NO! – The Prosecutors office called this meeting by simply calling Stacy Crall and getting on the agenda, say what? The people were also shut out of this meeting, by LAW here it CLEARLY states in (C) above under 121.22 Public Meetings and Exceptions – where’s the exception other than Al from the MNJ saying this is covered under Sunshine Law?

My question here once again is WHY Donald Zehner and Attorney’s were at this meeting in place of the Prosecutors office? Al says once again this is none of OUR business based on Sunshine Law even though we the people were shut out! They did how ever admit this had to do with Ben Bissman and an illegal sale of Property, STILL have no idea why Donald Zehner and Attorney were allowed to attend for this yet we the people could not? 

Is ANYONE the least bit curious to why the Prosecutor conveniently committed suicide 3 days later after calling for this illegal meeting we the people were shut out of entirely with exception to those here, and those who were later added? 

Meeting Minutes from their site:

CERTIFICATE OF THE RICHLAND COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

In accordance with Ohio Revised Code Section 305.11, the Clerk of the Board of Richland County Commissioners hereby submits the following record of the Commissioners’ September 23, 2014 meeting, for recording into the Commissioners’ Journal, Volume 86, under the same date.

 

RICHLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

Regular Meeting, Tuesday, September 23, 2014

COMMISSIONERS’ BOARDROOM

COUNTY ADMIN. BLDG., MANSFIELD, OHIO

Call to Order:               9:31 a.m.

In Attendance:             Commissioners: Utt, Olson, Wert

Excused:

Clerk:                           Stacey L. Crall

Guests:                        See Below

Tape:                           SEPT2314

 

Topic: Executive Session

Tape:   0.0.10

Present: Andrew Keller, Mike Bear, Richland Source, News Journal, Lt. Zehner

Discussion: Andrew Keller, Assisting Prosecuting Attorney, suggested the Commissioners enter into executive session to have a conference with their attorneys to discuss a dispute which is the subject of imminent court action.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to enter into executive session to consult with attorneys on a dispute which is the subject of imminent court action seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Out of executive session 10:03 a.m.

 

Topic:  Commissioners

Tape: 0.0.52

Present:  News Journal, Richland Source, Andrew Keller, Mike Bear, Lt. Zehner

Discussion: During executive session the Board discussed a dispute which is the subject of imminent court action with two attorneys from the Prosecutor’s office.

 

Topic: Peoples Community Center

Tape: 0.01.57

Present:  News Journal, Richland Source, Rachel Stephens

Discussion: Commissioner Olson commented he just talked to Barry Armstrong from the State taxation office regarding their vacation of the office space at Peoples Community Center. They plan to come back and take the copy machine. Some of the furniture has been claimed by other county offices. Commissioner Utt stated there are three desks and cubicle dividers left. The Erie/Huron/Richland County Community Action is interested in the space.

 

 

Topic:  Central Services

Tape:   0.05.50

Present:  Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal, Richland Source

Discussion: Cathy Mosier, Director of Central Services, stated they are always looking at different opportunities for savings. The County has been a member of the U.S. Communities Purchasing Alliance, in the past, and participated in one of their contracts. They are a non-profit agency, established by local government to assist public agencies in the reduction of the cost of goods purchased.  In review of the office supply contract there could be a savings to the County in the amount of $1,400 a month. Central Services is requesting the Commissioners to renew their membership with U.S. Communities Purchasing Alliance and to utilize the office supply contract through Friends Business Source under ORC 9.48 (3)(D). Membership is free.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to renew the membership to U.S. Communities Purchasing Alliance to utilize the office supply contract through Friends Business Source under ORC 9.48 (3) (D) seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: This will provide a savings from the current office supply contract.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Procurement Cards

Tape:   0.11.07

Present:  Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal, Richland Source

Discussion: Cathy reviewed the meeting held yesterday with Commissioner Utt, Stacey Crall, Auditor employees and Chase Bank regarding the procurement card contract. Chase Bank is not happy with how the process is working and the payment schedule. There is a 25 day payment requirement that is difficult to meet especially when the bill is received 10 days into the 25. Commissioner Utt noted they also believe any other bank will have the same issues. The Board discussed in length the need and use of procurement cards and the county’s current policy. Cathy is recommending cancelling the contract with an effective date of December 31, 2014. This will allow time to issue Requests for Proposals from someone else and start in January.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to cancel the procurement card program with Chase Bank effective December 31, 2014 seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Procurement Cards

Tape: 0.32.51

Present:  Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Cathy reviewed dates have not been chosen for the new proposal and would like the Auditor to review the terms of the proposal.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to authorize advertising for Request for Proposals for a Procurement Card program seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services

Tape: 0.34.21

Present: Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Cathy reviewed the renewal with Superior Dental will have the same rates and program we currently have. The renewal will be effective January 1, 2015 for one year. Genesis manages our VEBA and flexible spending accounts. Their renewal also has no changes to the contract. However we would like to add a carryover of $500 for flexible spending into 2015 that must be used by March 31, 2015. Cathy also requested the renewal with Employers Health Coalition for CVS/Caremark. The projected savings for 2015 is 2.89%. The current rebates received are about $35,000 every quarter. Employers Health Coalition negotiates savings on prescription medications for us.

Motion:  Commissioner Olson moved to renew contracts with Superior Dental, Genesis, with a $500 roll over of flexible spending, and Employers Health Coalition seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Health Insurance

Tape:   0.38.51

Present:  Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Cathy inquired about the contract with Assurant and offering the supplemental insurance policies. Commissioner Olson asked if the problems had been corrected on premiums. Cathy said yes. Cathy stated Assurant has good products to offer employees. 380 employees participated and she knows there will be more interested during the upcoming open enrollment time. Rachel Stephens stated Assurant has been good to work with. When problems arose they helped fix them. A group rate is being offered to the employees for the supplemental insurance programs. The employee is solely responsible for the payment of the premium, through payroll deduction. Commissioner Olson commented on the life insurance for the employee paid and offered by the County. If administration becomes so cumbersome then it may not be worth continuing the contract to offer these extra policies. Commissioner Olson reviewed he spent three weeks reviewing where the county is financially and how things look for 2015. 2015 is very concerning. The county has not recovered from the 2008 recession. Offering supplemental insurance is a benefit but not a necessity when administration becomes so difficult.

1.02.06 Cathy inquired if the Commissioners wanted to maintain the current VEBA levels at $300 for single and $600 for family and will the employee contribution for health insurance increase the $5 per month. The Board said yes to the $5 increase and maintaining current VEBA incentive levels. Cathy inquired whether an employee who is on the buyout this year, completed all the wellness points, did not receive the VEBA payment but wants to join the health insurance plan next year, would they have the low deductible? Commissioner Olson said no he would not be in favor in that. Whenever you can maintain a policy you should and not allow exceptions.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to maintain the wellness VEBA incentive for 2015 at $300 for single and $600 for family and approve the $5 per month increase for the employee portion of health insurance premium seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Health Insurance

Tape:   1.05.57

Present: Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: The Board agreed to allow Assurant to continue to offer their supplemental insurance programs to employees.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Health Insurance

Tape: 1.07.32

Present: Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Chip Knoop, from CBIZ, presented the funding information to the Commissioners with no changes in the plan for 2015. Based on the analysis the increase in funding is 1%. Large claims have decreased to help with the low increase. Commissioner Olson wonders if this is also a result of our wellness program really working. Commissioner Olson commented on the need for control of obesity in 2015. Cathy added the benefits fair is October 14th and there will be 20 vendors there regarding wellness. Commissioner Olson stated each office needs to allow their employees time to go the benefit fair to participate in the activities and talk to the vendors present. Commissioner Olson asked Cathy to provide information on the benefits fair so the Commissioners could send out a letter on the significance of the event. Chip stated about 47% of the county employees have the low deductible. Chip reviewed the renewal premium for stop loss with Anthem is being proposed to increase by $200,000. The current stop loss is at $175,000. Chip reviewed the history of claims and alternatives with Anthem on changing the stop loss level. Increasing the stop loss level means more risk the county will assume but the premium would decrease. Chip recommends increasing the stop loss to $200,000.

1.55.23 Chip reviewed three other documents prepared reviewing the CEBCO health insurance program. The review is on medical coverage only not prescription. Chip reviewed the information on their five plans and comparing to the county’s current plan. It appears the best for the county is to keep what we have now but this should be reviewed annually.

Motion:  Commissioner Wert moved to renew the contract with Anthem and increasing the stop loss amount to $200,000 seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services

Tape:   2.08.08

Present: Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: This Thursday is the next insurance meeting; Cathy asked if this information would be shared. The Board said yes. Commissioner Olson wanted to inform Chip the relationship with him has been professional and one of the most satisfactory the Commissioners have. Commissioner Olson trusts the work provided from his multiple years of work and understanding of the industry. Thank you for the service you provide to the county and you earn every penny you are paid. Commissioners Utt and Wert agree. Commissioner Olson asked for the name and address of the President and CEO of CBIZ so a letter can be written. Chip thanked the Commissioners for their comments. Commissioner Olson asked about the possibility of Townships joining the plan. Chip stated in an email an analysis would need to be completed to determine the risk the county would be assuming by adding a Township. The cost of the analysis will be $3,000.

 

Topic: Record of Proceedings

Tape:   2.22.32

Present: News Journal

Discussion:  The Board reviewed the Record of Proceedings for September 18, 2014.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to certify the Record of Proceedings for September 18, 2014 seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Requisitions

Tape:   2.22.42

Present:  News Journal

Discussion: The Board reviewed the list of requisitions for approval.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to approve the list of requisitions submitted for approval seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Engineer – Rock Salt

Tape:   2.23.18

Present: News Journal

Discussion: The Board reviewed the second advertisement for rock salt materials to see if any bids will be received.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to authorize advertising for rock salt material on September 23, 2014 with a bid opening on October 9, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Township Roads

Tape:   2.24.01

Present: News Journal

Discussion: The Board reviewed the resolution submitted by the Monroe Township Trustees regarding closing Monroe Township Road 438 for the Malabar Heritage days on September 27 and 28, 2014 from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to authorize the closing of Monroe Township Road 438 from 7:00 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. on September 27 and September 28, 2014 for the Malabar Farm Heritage Days seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  County Administration Building

Tape:   2.24.41

Questions from October 16th Commissioners meeting caught on tape when the record was shut off, why was that? – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2jlNNfKIU

Minutes of this meeting as you see are vague and general, hmmm?

CERTIFICATE OF THE RICHLAND COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

In accordance with Ohio Revised Code Section 305.11, the Clerk of the Board of Richland County Commissioners hereby submits the following record of the Commissioners’ October 16, 2014 meeting, for recording into the Commissioners’ Journal, Volume 86, under the same date.

 

RICHLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

Regular Meeting, Thursday, October 16, 2014

COMMISSIONERS’ BOARDROOM

COUNTY ADMIN. BLDG., MANSFIELD, OHIO

Call to Order:               9:30 a.m.

In Attendance:             Commissioners: Utt, Olson, Wert

Clerk:                           Stacey L. Crall

Guests:                        See Below

Tape:                           OCT1614

 

Topic: Commissioners

Tape:   0.0.13

Present: Attorney Jim Wagner, News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Citizen

Discussion: Commissioner Utt noted the first item on the agenda is for an executive session to discuss pending litigation.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to enter into executive session to discuss pending litigation seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: Randy Shepard, citizen, asked for the case number since it is pending litigation. Commissioner Olson noted it is more accurate to state imminent litigation because nothing has been filed yet. Randy asked about what litigation. Attorney Wagner explained the topic is to force a lease option agreement that is in default. Randy asked for a copy of the lease agreement, since it is a public record.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Out of executive session at 9:56 a.m.

 

Topic: Commissioners

Tape: 0.01.58

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: Commissioner Utt reported Attorney Wagner will contact the person in question about the default lease and communicate back with the Commissioners.

 

Commissioner Olson stepped out of the office.

 

Topic: Requisitions

Tape:   0.02.41

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board reviewed the list of requisitions for approval.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to approve the list of requisitions seconded by Commissioner Utt.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, absent; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Transfers

Tape:   0.03.17

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion:  The Board reviewed the weekly interdepartmental transfers and appropriations.

Motion:  Commissioner Wert moved to approve the weekly transfers and appropriations seconded by Commissioner Utt.

Other Comments: Commissioner Olson re-entered the meeting. Randy asked about changing the agenda to note it was imminent litigation. Clerk Crall stated it was her mistake for the agenda and the minutes will reflect the correct reason for the executive session. Commissioner Olson stated the problem with the lease agreement and forcing your rights it is more imminent than pending. Randy asked why the Prosecuting Attorney is not litigating the issue. Commissioner Olson reviewed when the issue started there is a potential of Federal law being part of the action and Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys suggested Attorney Wagner because of his expertise in property law. Randy asked was it put in writing from the Prosecutor himself that they would not litigate the issue. Commissioner Olson said nothing is in writing. We had a meeting with Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys on the issue. Randy believes the Prosecutor is the only one person who can represent the Commissioners and has to put in writing when they will not handle a case. Commissioner Olson disagrees. Lawyers in the Prosecutor’s office are assigned to specific duties.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Wastewater – Kochheiser Road

Tape:   0.08.46

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board reviewed a letter from Keith Amstutz, Vice President of Shaffer, Johnston, Lichtenwalter regarding the Kochheiser Road sanitary sewer bid award. Commissioner Olson reviewed the letter also states due to the contractor’s limited experience that the construction inspectors should oversee the work closely. Clerk Crall reported the construction inspection will be completed by K. E. McCartney.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to award the Kochheiser Road sanitary sewer project to Shrock Premier Custom Construction, LLC at a bid price of $239,387.35 seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Engineer – Rock Salt

Tape: 0.11.16

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board reviewed a letter from Adam Gove, Chief Deputy Engineer, regarding the rock salt bids. Only one bid was received and with a limit of tonnage to be received. In efforts to secure rock salt for the winter Adam is recommending accepting the bid. Commissioner Olson commented on the need for use of more grit this winter. Commissioner Wert stated he does not like to be in this position paying double the cost, over last year, and be limited to the amount of rock salt to be received.

Motion:  Commissioner Wert moved to accept the bid from Detroit Salt, Co, at $78.62 per ton at a maximum amount of 5,000 tons seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: Commissioner Olson agrees. It is a free market with supply and demand but it has never been explained why the supply is so short. The Engineer and Townships have some reserves but not enough for the entire winter. Brine treated grit will be used whenever possible. It will be difficult to share the amount of salt being received.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Central Services – Food Service

Tape:   0.15.01

Present:  News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Rick Freeman, Citizen

Discussion: The contract is available, to sign, for food services with Trinity Services Group.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to sign the contract for food services with Trinity Group based upon the vendor’s bid received on July 10, 2014, awarded on August 21, 2014, and as reflected on page 4b of the contract documents seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:   Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Wastewater

Tape:   0.16.15

Present:  News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Rick Freeman, Citizen

Discussion: Rick Freeman, Director of Wastewater, informed the Commissioners one of his employees is doing much better with their medical problems. Billy’s title was Chief of Maintenance and Luann’s was Superintendent. When Luann retired Billy was recently promoted to Superintendent. The Chief Maintenance position is still vacant along with a maintenance technician position. Rick requested permission to advertise for both positions. The other employee who has been out on sick leave is due back next week. The Board discussed the job description, requirements and pay rate. Wastewater operator’s license is not required for the positions. Commissioner Olson added it would be good during the interview process to ask if the candidate is interested in obtaining the licenses.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to authorize advertising for two vacant positions at Wastewater seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Health Insurance Meeting

Tape:   0.28.34

Present: News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board called Cathy Mosier, Director of Central Services, to inquire about the 1:30 p.m. health insurance meeting. Cathy stated she would like to cancel it with the Commissioners’ approval. The Board agreed to cancel the meeting.

 

Topic: Citizens’ Concerns

Tape:   0.29.50

Present: News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: Phil Sydnor asked how to pursue threats he is receiving over the internet. Phil stated he will not go into the Sheriff’s office and wants the Commissioners to facility a meeting with the Sheriff to address the threats. Connie Garber questioned the Commissioners of the killing of her son. Commissioner Olson stated they did not have any information on the incident, except what has been printed in the news paper. Phil stated the whole public is talking and is upset. Citizens are expressing their concerns of fraud in the county. Randy spoke of his personal legal issues he has been having with the City and County over the years and mentioned to the Commissioners in previous meetings.

 

ADJOURNMENT: There being no further county business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 10:47 a.m. at tape 0.52.31.

 

Submitted by:  Stacey L. Crall

 

BE IT RESOLVED the Richland County Board of Commissioners hereby accepts the foregoing as the correct record of proceedings of the board meeting held October 16, 2014 in Mansfield, Ohio.

 

Mr. Wert moved adoption of the foregoing resolution. Mr. Olson seconded the motion. The roll, being called upon adoption, resulted as follows:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes.

 

 

 

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ATTEST:  ________________________       ___________________________________

CLERK                                          BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

RICHLAND COUNTY, OHIO

 

CERTIFICATE

The foregoing is hereby certified as the official record of proceedings of the Richland County Board of Commissioners meeting October 16, 2014.

 

___________________________________

Gary Utt, Sr., Chairman

 

___________________________________

Stacey L. Crall, Clerk

BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

RICHLAND COUNTY, OHIO

 

Vol. 86 Page_____

 

Only 4 of us showed this time, next time we will bring enough for a Jury!

Only 4 of us showed this time, next time we will bring enough for a Jury!

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Just curious since we are shut out if the Grand Jury for the Garber incident will have access to this?

Remember the 911 call logs, and the pictures of Sara Knowlton’s text messages?

I sure do, and they make NO SENSE of what happened next. Let us see IF Investigators and/or the Prosecutor (whom ever it is) picked up on this? I noticed something very strange I thought I would share that maybe someone can shed their perspective on as well.

***”Knowlton called police again shortly after 8 p.m. saying she believed Garber had a gun at his parent’s house, 3400 Mill Run Road. During the call, Knowlton told the dispatch her mother-in-law, Connie, told her Garber had a gun, but neither actually saw a weapon. Minutes later, Garber texted Knowlton to say he had a gun.”

***”Deputies were first dispatched to 3400 Mill Run Road at 8:13 p.m. March 16. Ten minutes later, one of the deputies radioed for an ambulance in reference to shots fired, according to the recording.”

***”A Bellville Police Department officer, Jason Hutchison, was the first to arrive at the home at 8:19 p.m. He was told by an unidentified deputy through dispatch: “Do not go up there by yourself.””

***”Sheriff’s Deputy Andrew Knee and Lt. Donald Zehner arrived a minute later, along with Sgt. James Nicholson. Knee and Zehner were a two-man car, Masi said.”

Here we have text message one that depicts “just so u know I have a gun now too…so don’t fuck with me!!!                    Received on Sara’s Phone @ 8:15pm

I STILL question WHY he says…”I have a gun now too” – who had a gun or threatened him into needing to say this?

TextMessage-1

911 log indicates Garber shooting escalated quickly

LEXINGTON — A radio recording between 911 dispatch and Richland County Sheriff’s deputies reveals how quickly the situation escalated the night Brian Garber was shot and killed.

Deputies were first dispatched to 3400 Mill Run Road at 8:13 p.m. March 16. Ten minutes later, one of the deputies radioed for an ambulance in reference to shots fired, according to the recording.

Garber, 28, was pronounced dead at 8:30 p.m.

The events that led to the shooting started an hour before with a domestic violence call to Garber’s residence across the street, 3425 Mill Run Road. Garber’s wife, Sara Knowlton, and mother, Connie Garber, told police Garber was upset and beating up on them.

Knowlton called police again shortly after 8 p.m. saying she believed Garber had a gun at his parent’s house, 3400 Mill Run Road. During the call, Knowlton told the dispatch her mother-in-law, Connie, told her Garber had a gun, but neither actually saw a weapon. Minutes later, Garber texted Knowlton to say he had a gun.

A Bellville Police Department officer, Jason Hutchison, was the first to arrive at the home at 8:19 p.m. He was told by an unidentified deputy through dispatch: “Do not go up there by yourself.”

Sheriff’s Deputy Andrew Knee and Lt. Donald Zehner arrived a minute later, along with Sgt. James Nicholson. Knee and Zehner were a two-man car, Masi said.

The crew was followed by Deputy James Berry, according to the radio traffic. According to previous reports, Deputy Jeff Frazier was also at the scene, but he is not mentioned in the log of radio communication.

Deputies spent several seconds discussing which address Garber was at until Zehner advised Garber was at the house “up the hill. Straight across from where we were” during the domestic violence call.

At 8:22 p.m., Zehner asked dispatch to “hold traffic until we can advise further.” A minute later, he asked for an ambulance in reference to shots fired, according to the recording.

Here is the message I find the most interesting since THEY are making a big deal out of these messages depicting he had a gun. I find it odd at the same time Zehner calls radio silence Brian supposedly sends this message “those pussy cops can throw me in jail put me in prison…it doesnt matter what they do cuz once im out…U R DEAD!!!                   Received 8:22pm????

One minute later they call for an ambulance? Call me a conspiracy theorist, but this don’t make sense. One can only think they saw this message and in a rage marched in like Matt Garber said, went up the stairs in seconds and gunned down their son in a rage over it!, or they typed these text messages themselves?

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“After the deputies secured from the domestic call they resume their patrol activities and handled any pending calls. Patrol cars are assigned zones and would have returned to those zones,” Sheriff’s Maj. Joe Masi said. “In any emergency call, deputies try to respond as quickly and safely as they can from their current location if dispatched to the call.

“At this time, the office has no further comment as to the deputies’ response times and locations when dispatched,” he said.

Procedure kicks in

After the call for an ambulance, things started to slow down a bit.

Deputy Berry was instructed to “get the father (Matt Garber). Secure him in a safe place.” At 8:24 p.m., Zehner told dispatch to get Sheriff Steve Sheldon and Masi on the phone.

Two minutes later, he also called for Sgt. Will Gordon and crime lab “ASAP on all of them.” Gordon was told “you’ll need your whole team.”

Zehner asked dispatch, “Where’s my squad,” which officially checked in at the scene at 8:35 p.m., 911 Director Lisa Burdine said. He told emergency personnel to wait at the bottom of the drive for a deputy to bring them in.

Zehner said, “I’ll only need one or two of them to come up. Whoever’s at the end of the driveway.”

Over the next couple of hours, the recording logs deputies checking in and out of the scene on patrols and trying to find sheriff supervisors and detectives.

About an hour later, deputies called for the Richland County Prosecutor’s office. The Richland County Coroner’s office is never mentioned in the log. – This is a HUGE issue as well, WHY was the Coroner NOT called? It’s being said because Donald Zehner the trigger man was out late at his favorite bar on the same day when they are not allowed to consume alcohol inside of 24 hours, hmmm? Another question that needs to be answered!

BCI still investigating

Details about the shooting are still slow to be released as the state Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation conducts its investigation. The sheriff’s office asked the agency to take over the officer-involved shooting shortly after the incident occurred, Masi said.

BCI denied two News Journal public information requests for a death scene checklist and an evidence list detailing sheriff-issued firearms confiscated as part of the investigation. The documents are still part of an investigation and therefore not required to be released, BCI wrote.

One of the records requested does not exist, BCI added in its letter of denial.

“In regards to your request for a death scene checklist, I can inform you that no document of that nature exists in connection with this investigation,” the letter stated.

A death scene investigation checklist is designed to help officers better document a crime scene involving a dead body. It records who called in the death, the condition of the body when found, notes about the surroundings and other details.

They’re helpful to law enforcement, but not required by all departments.

The Richland County Sheriff’s Office and Mansfield Police Department both require that a death scene checklist be completed for any death investigation, according to their respective policies.

Requests for BCI’s policy on submitting death scene checklists were not returned Monday.

Masi also denied a News Journal request for a receipt for sheriff-issued guns confiscated by BCI. His office does not have a written document detailing which guns were confiscated, but he does have record of the guns issued to each deputy during their duty, he said.

kdurbin@nncogannett.com
419-521-7205
Twitter: @njKaitlinDurbin

 

Now 8 months later we have a Grand Jury Assembled yet we don’t know who the Prosecutor is? Ours claimed “Conflict of Interest”, THEY SAY…this was sent to Cuyahoga County Prosecutor while folks say uh-huh! Do we not realize there is a PROCESS for this? None of which has been done or scrutinized with exception of those in the Mansfielders Perspective Group on facebook.

The media has said Judge DeWeese is presiding over the Grand Jury, yet we don’t know who the Prosecutor is? This is odd because the Judge has absolutely NOTHING to do with a Grand Jury other than to make people speak who refuse too!

What’s scary about this that people don’t know? IF they DON’T INDICT everything we don’t know can’t be questioned because there are no PUBLIC RECORDS what so ever on this? Once the Grand Jury is done…

problem solved, or will this bring more problems????

 

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One Mansfielder asks…Who can save Mansfield, Richland County?

Maybe those who are joining Mansfielders Perspective can? One place where the TRUTH prevails!!!! We are an ever growing Community of concerned citizens banning together to get the truth out on ALL cover ups by local officials and media, until we came around these things went unchecked. Now that there’s a place to safely keep the records of these events those with short term memory loss can go down memory lane to see what’s going on here!

Yes, there is a WALL OF SHAME that includes wrong doers who are being hand picked by our County Officials which only goes to show the support our no justice system works for those who are supposedly here to keep us safe? They have sent many frauds to try and silence this group, some of which can be found on Question Politics page. Please click on the link to view the many questions we have, like WHO’S DREW TYLER? – This person and a few others have been the mouthpiece who defends these frauds, maybe if investigators would DO THEIR JOBS as we ask they could find out?

We are STILL WAITING on our Commissioners answers we asked at the October 16th meeting to what they are going to do about the Sheriff and the frauds we asked which was taken off the record. Here is the meeting minutes from the 16th, then you can see ours here!

Who can save Mansfield, Richland County?

I have always assumed someone is innocent until proven guilty. Our criminal justice system is the best in the world. However, it has been sorely contaminated. It is made up of people who make up today’s culture. Unfortunately today, some don’t follow Judeo-Christian laws that have made us a moral, strong and great nation.

The Mansfield/Richland County area, over time, has been referred to as “Little Chicago” and “Rotten to the Core.” Most of the citizens (a silent majority) are hard-working, God-fearing people. Being fair, even an atheist can be moral and of high integrity.

The Lord said of Jerusalem: “If you can find but one person who deals honestly and seeks truth, I will forgive this city.”

Is there one truthful person in this city and county who can answer the following questions?

• What happened to Reeves and Fortney?

• What happened with Bosko and Maurice King III?

• What is the deal with Tinney?

• Why all the darkness involving the killing of Brian Garber?

• Why wasn’t the coroner called immediately? ORC#313.12.

• Deputies train with NAMI? Why no negotiator?

• Failure to produce public records in seven month bodes of a cover up. What is being covered up?

What a sad series of events that taints the entire sheriff’s department and court system. Officers take an oath to be truthful, knowledgeable and obedient to police policies and procedures, follow state and federal laws and the constitution.

Would that one person who can bring truth and justice back to our community, please stand up, come forward and save this city and county.

Patty Brook

Mansfield

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Prosecutors file 13 subpoenas in Brian Garber shooting – What they are saying????

Prosecutors file 13 subpoenas in Brian Garber shooting

 Kaitlin Durbin, kdurbin@nncogannett.com5:54 p.m. EST November 4, 2014

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/local/2014/11/04/prosecutors-file-subponeas-brian-garber-shooting/18483717/

These Deputy's apparently DON'T value human life?

These Deputy’s apparently DON’T value human life?

MANSFIELD – The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office recently filed 13 subpoenas to meet with several of the key players in the investigation of the deputy-involved shooting of local man Brian Garber.

Garber, 28, was shot and killed by an unidentified Richland County Sheriff’s deputy around 8:30 p.m. March 16, after his wife called 911 saying he had sent her text messages threatening that he had a gun.

The prosecutor’s office has been reviewing the incident and investigative materials collected by the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation since late Prosecutor James Mayer Jr. turned over the investigation in early September.

They’ll determine whether to take the case before a local grand jury, which is currently in session.

All of the main witnesses in the shooting investigation are being subpoenaed, according to information filed with the Richland County Clerk of Courts.

That list includes Garber’s parents, Connie and Matt Garber; wife, Sara Knowlton; Richland County Sheriff employees Lt. Donald Zehner, Sgt. James Nicholson, Deputy Jeff Frazier, Deputy Andrew Knee and Deputy James Berry; and BCI lead investigator Cory Momchilov.

Bellville Police Department Officer Jason Hutchinson also was subpoenaed. Hutchinson was the first officer to arrive at Brian’s parents’ home at 3400 Mill Run Road on the night he was shot. Garber was in the upstairs bedroom that had been his in high school when deputies confronted him.

Lexington Police Department Capt. Troy Weaver and officer Michael Beasley also were issued subpoenas. Lexington police were among those agencies responding to Mill Run Road after calls to county dispatch reported Garber had a gun.

A final subpoena was sent to Charles (Jason) Clarke. His connection to the incident is not clear.

If Cuyahoga County prosecutors seek criminal charges, the case will come back to a local grand jury for review for possible indictment, said Joe Frolik, director of communications.

The sheriff’s office has not been able to comment on the case since they asked BCI to handle the investigation. Deputies are being questioned about what happened in that upstairs bedroom that led them to fire at least 16 bullets.

Garber’s family has professed his innocence from the beginning and say they expect to see criminal charges come from the case.

kdurbin@nncogannett.com

419-521-7205

Twitter: @njKaitlinDurbin

What they are saying online

Wayne Volz · Landscaper at Landscaping

my prayers go out to the family and i hope those dirty police rot and you get justice and im very sorry for your loss of a young man

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Levi Wade · Follow

I hope the cops and Judges that was inthis get what is coimg to them, the man was unarmed. This is not the frist time this happen this year. There has been many more shotings from cops for no reason. This needs to stop.

Reply · Like · Follow Post · 11 hours ago

Lisa Sexton · Pioneer Career and Technology Center

Praying for justice! And Gods peace for the family!

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Fred Levins ·  Top Commenter

It is noteworthy and commendable that Kaitlin Durbin continues to keep a close watch on developments in this case.

Along with Mike Monroe, I find the pace of the pertinent work in Cuyahoga County to be glacial. On the other hand, this case is probably not the only the only thing on their plate and it is out-of-county work, which is something of an unexpected burden for which the prosecutor’s office plausibly could not have planned to address.

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Mike Monroe ·  Top Commenter · Butler, Ohio

Finally! Let’s hope justice is served for closure.

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Comments on MNJ Facebook account

NONE – They were removed, hmmmm? They were commenting yesterday, wonder where they had gone?

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Comments on facebooks MP group

Phil Sydnor Great job Kaitlin Quinn Durbin staying on top of this! I just heard news of this earlier in the day and applaud your getting this news out before any of us rookies 
I know most of us here want indictments, it’s time our community comes together on this situation. With the lies coming out of the Sheriffs Office on this I will be shocked if no indictments are handed down based on the truth we know shared by this awesome reporter!

November 4 at 6:17pm · Like · 5

Phil Sydnor Thank you too Pam for posting here! 

November 4 at 6:24pm · Like · 4

Kaitlin Quinn Durbin I’m thankful for all the tips you guys call in. I check every one of them!

November 4 at 7:01pm · Unlike · 5

Tyger Parent Yeah, I heard you got a big tip in these today..

November 4 at 7:44pm · Unlike · 3

Tyger Parent Great job Caitlin..

November 4 at 7:48pm · Like · 1

Chad Walters This is awesome. I hope it goes all the way. Not to sound too cliché, but I would really like to see justice for Brian.

November 4 at 8:52pm · Unlike · 5

Tyger Parent Yes, Brian deserves justice..

I’m sure the ones involved are freaking out, I’ll be surprised if any of them don’t take some vacation time.

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Randy Shepherd Subpeonas now that is better than summons? That I can believe well sorta maybe. Not real sure How Cuyahoga county got involved? I still question that?

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Phil Sydnor Yes, I too question where our Prosecutor in writing like the law requires said he had a conflict of interest, and where our Attorney General selected a special prosecutor for this issue just the same, in writing. Where are these records that make the process official???

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Dan Litt I don’t normally speak here. I’ve used this forum as an information guide on who’s who and what’s what in Mansfield. I’ve found the truth resides in very few places these days but it seems like it has found purchase here with the exception of a few rabble rousers. That being said I’ve been keeping close track of the Garber boys murder. More than anything about the law that Mr. Shepherd shares or the corrupt officials that Mr. Sydnor expose(s, d) is the almost complete lack of caring into this matter by the regular citizens. 

Be it on this forum, The MNJ page, or real life conversations it seems the only ones who are talking and caring about this issue outside of The Garber family are the people on this site. Even on the MNJ page it’s you people who do a vast majority of the discussion. If the regular joes of Mansfield would open their eyes and realize a small group of around a dozen has kept this case open and in the eyes of those who can do something about it. Just imagine where this case would be right now if thousands would stand also. 

I’m beginning to think that even beyond a corrupt and lawless city is a group of selfish, uncaring people who cry for change but refuse to stand up and achieve it. 

I’m going to receive a shit storm for saying this but I’m going to anyways. have only been around a couple of years and was even removed for a short time for inactivity I think. But where was Connie Garber before her son was murdered? Don’t get me wrong. I am not attacking her. I applaud her standing up and being vocal about this but where was she before? (If she was active before he was killed then I truly apologize but I personally haven’t seen evidence of that). If we all wait until we’re screwed by their dirty politics or we or our loved ones are murdered by their out of control enforcers then nothing will ever change. 

I guess my point to this is in the time I’ve been following this group I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone come here that hasn’t been screwed with already. I don’t recall seeing one person who is here solely to end the corruption they see around them. This war will never be won if the people wait to become victims before joining the battle.

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Randy Shepherd So if James Mayer had a conflict of interest?? Does Bambi Share that very same conflict?? I am not certain due process has ever been reached in this fiasco. 
Here is the biggest fear for the community. Let’s suppose there is no record of due process. So we go through the Grand Jury process a lot of hype and circumstance on the publics dime and time. Two years down the road the guilty says hey this judgment is void becasue due process was never served? Regardless of what the jury says or the lawyers say or the judge says. A void judgment is void and with no effect from its inception.

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Phil Sydnor Dan Litt, long time you have been silent. Good to seen you’re not in attack mode and are now seeing the larger picture. Yes, we have taken this to their doorsteps, now ever have been told an old man once said we bring 95% of our troubles to our own, does this video constitute what’s to come? -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2jlNNfKIU

 

Oct.16th 2014 Richland County Ohio Commissioners Meeting taken off the…

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Dan Litt When you confront evil you are indeed inviting trouble. That doesn’t make it wrong.

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Randy Shepherd Dan. My quest began in 1991. Yes I was directly involved and or drug into this sham in 91. My understanding of this sham goes well beyond my personal plight and as such has effected many good people over the time I have spent. 
The job is not done nor will it ever be done. Ihave dedicated much more time and effort to understanding how this effects the entire community and I chose to be active in seeing it exposed and justice served. I have been plugging away nearly every day for someone while always pursuing my justice for my children.
It is awareness and enlighenment that I bring to the table. Not from a guess or someone said. But from study and experience in thie County. we are makeing progress, welcome aboard.

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Phil Sydnor Funny you say that Dan Litt some who have been recently banned for fake accounts spewing filth were saying we are Evil, really????

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Randy Shepherd I will stay on this. If people want change in County administration of justice, They need to confront the head of county administration. Forget the Magistrates are judges casue they are not. Forget that every person hired by county to administer any county function is not accountable to the heads of county administration.
Oh and Les I forget default judgment is a ministerail (administration) duty of the court.

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Randy Shepherd If not me and not now? Who and when?

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Phil Sydnor Dan, you sure changed your tune some what, do you remember when you were calling this group a bunch of conspiracy nuts? I responded and this is what you said, maybe you have been watching and learned your first impression was incorrect analysis? – “Dan Litt someones got to keep an eye on you Phillip. Just know, as I’m sure you do, that we’re watching you. I don’t think you’ll be hearing from ‘Dan’ again.”

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Randy Shepherd Some time ya just gotta say bring it on bitch, let’s dance. Put on your red shoes and dance the blues.

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Phil Sydnor Funny thing hearing from you again, maybe you don’t realize I keep better records than the clerk of courts – lol!

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Randy Shepherd we to have evloved, so lets not critique just as of yet. Enlightenmant works on very piculiar ways.

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Randy Shepherd Lets hear him out? Doing is tuffer than saying. he has sadio now lets see what he is willing to do?

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Dan Litt I’m not exactly sure what you can do on Facebook other than talk. So I’m a little lost on the willing to do part. Unless you mean meet and greets and Christmas cards. And my answer to that would be no. I have a real life. A real job. A real family. I understand how politics in this town work and I’m not going to put myself out there like you guys. I also know how people in general tend to be psychos so that’s another reason I say no to joining your ‘met in person’ club.

As to what was said in the past. I’ll neither confirm or deny I know anything about that. I’ll let you decide for yourselves and I’ll quietly slip back into randomness and enjoy your page. Regardless of what was said our what is thought, I truly enjoy your page and what it is doing. Have a good one. You probably won’t be hearing from ‘Dan’ again. Lol.

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Anthony McKean kind of freaky if ya ask me i remember his attacks too

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Randy Shepherd I can appreciate that view point to a degree. You say. you know how politics works in this town. we are out to change how politicians do not work in this town. so we have common ground a little bit. 
Even though youknow your family is at risk from the
 politicians in this town you still remain oin that side of the picture? That is where I have some concern. 
As far as what you can od to help resolve the problems your family faces and or will face. what do you believe is the problem?? Where is the proper fix? What are you willing to do to achieve that end? I heard the part about real life and real job and cluck cluck. I can say me to. why even interject that into an otherwise meainigful conversation. It is simple either you want change or you do not. All people have real lives and real jobs, however effort and even extra effort to build and or support community efforts is not to much to ask. ——————————————-

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Phil Sydnor Dan, I don’t mean to sound like Im checking you, but for the record I only keep tabs on fake or suspect accounts. I am happy you have taken the turn to see there’s power in numbers as we question politics. Thank you for requesting others to join us in this fight, this is after all the community we choose to live in away from personal attacks for telling it like it is. Stay tuned, as I have told Drew Tyler and our many attackers we will win this war against those who attack under the darkness of cover. I hope one day you will be free to be who you really are. Thanks!

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READ WHAT THEY HAVE CALLED AS PUBLIC RECORDS HERE, THEY ARE USING THIS TEXT MESSAGE AS THEIR EXCUSE, WHILE I TIE THEIR PUBLIC RECORD TIMELINE AS TIE TO WHAT THIS IS – MURDER! – GO TO BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE TO FIND LINKS THAT IMPLICATE THESE DEPUTY’S AS NOT FOLLOWING PROTOCOL FOR THIS SITUATION!!!! – These men CLEARLY escalated the issue and murdered this man based on the UNKNOWN, having a gun! It’s now shameful they are blaming the parents for this. IF you have had enough, join us on facebook here!

This horror story sounds so familiar to what happened here, will they get away with this? IF they do there will sure to be some kind of retaliation? – http://theantimedia.org/mother-calls-police-to-help-her-son-take-his-medicine/

 

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