I wonder what’s taking the Grand Jury so long?, Brian Garber was CLEARLY MURDERED!!!!!

8:15 pm announces has a gun, women safe across the street!!!!! – Parents were said to say he had a gun, yet DID tell Deputy’s they did not see it! What parents told me was he said “you won’t like what was under my shirt” – questioned each other wondering IF he could have a gun? This family didn’t own a gun, not a single firearm in the house!

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8:22pm calls cops pussies, same time Zehner calls for radio silence? MNJ TIMELINE

8:23pm ambulance called?, those who defend these cops say…Problem Solved????

Seriously, what takes a Grand Jury this long to make a decision when they said on the record they took their time trying to call him out, REALLY???? It only takes one minute from the last message he makes to the time they call for an ambulance and we call this sufficient time? There was NO IMMINENT danger to anyone and they knew this, yet there are still people telling CONflicting stories on the streets who have no idea what the hell happened. I talked to the mother and father who were both there. They asked for help with their son and this is the help they get while these thugs friends stand in defense problem solved???

Sorry, but if this uncalled for act goes unpunished we are ALL doomed for what’s to come!

Post your thoughts on this process that’s taken over 8 months to this point! Surely lots of lies coming from this department that need sorted out sadly enough.

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Garber’s family testifying at grand jury this week, Story by Kaitlin Durbin

Direct link to MNJ Article & comments I am sure will not exist?

Want to read hear the TRUTH about this, join us in Mansfielders Perspective group here! 

Testimony over the deputy shooting death of Brian Garber began Thursday during grand jury at Richland County Courthouse.

Brian’s parents, Connie and Matt Garber, testified Thursday.

The schedule of witnesses left to testify is unknown. Grand jury proceedings are secret, per state law. – What we do know is the witnesses called mother Connie, Father Matt, and widow Sara are ALL being BLAMED for the death of Brian Garber for saying he had a gun?

The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office, which is reviewing the case, subpoenaed 13 witnesses to speak before the grand jury, according to information the News Journal obtained last week. – What’s the guilty party saying? Rumor has it they are saying they announced who they were and Matt Garber who was the only one there is said to be CONfused about what happened – WTH??? They are saying they called this man out and took their time before putting 14 BULLETS INTO AN UNARMED MAN! Something else I am hearing they did not tell the Grand Jury, not sure why that is, but WILL find out! 

I find this to to alarming that they said this did not happen the way Matt said it did, this would implicate them for INDICTMENT if you ask me, so why was the 911 timeline and text messages NOT shared with the Grand Jury? These two CRUCIAL pieces of what we know as the ONLY TRUE PUBLIC records tell quite a differing story than what these Deputies have told. The 911 Timeline says radio traffic was silenced at 8:22pm, Ambulance called at 8:23pm – Funny! – the last text message they shared to the public that I saved as well depicts 8:22pm received meaning they either wrote this or they did not take their time as they so depicted in their concocted story!

Following testimony, the grand jury will decide whether indictments are warranted in the shooting.

Brian Garber, 28, was shot and killed by an unidentified Richland County Sheriff’s deputy around 8:30 p.m. March 16, after his wife called 911 saying he had sent her text messages threatening he had a gun.

kdurbin@nncogannett.com

419-521-7205

Twitter: @njKaitlin

From what we are hearing which I will validate today the Garber’s are getting BLAMED for the death of their son?, can’t believe this took over 8 months to decide and goes to show Corruption in Cuyahoga County is STILL alive and well being it appears they have dropped the ball in this! The Richland County community is in REAL danger with this kind of legal sham system! I can’t believe Ohio State Law calls for this kind of secrecy for a Grand Jury, IF this little information is being withheld I hope it comes out in a higher authority? Then again when you have a Deputy like Donald Zehner who thinks he’s the higher authority, a non believer in God, his Judgement will be in the way of Karma! Maybe and hopefully in the same way they killed the late James Mayer who’s death 3 days after Donald Zehner and a mysterious Attorney attended a private meeting with commissioners calling it “executive session” protected once again by a Sunshine law – wth is going on here is the question, anyone know? 

MORE ON THIS!!!!

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/questionpolitics.html – BOTTOM OF PAGE

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/resources/September+23$2C+2014+-+Commissioners+Meeting.pdf – Private meeting community was shut out of, THEY say protected by Sunshine Laws???? – NO REASON for Zehner to be there, yet told none of our business???

http://www.mansfieldersperspective.com/resources/October+16$2C+2014+-+Meeting+Minutes+from+County+Website_unsigned.pdf – Their meeting minutes before the recorder was shut off for public review.

Youtube of what transpired after meeting was called October 16th, most of which left off the record????

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Readers weigh in on ‘Buy American’ by Linda Martz

Readers weigh in on ‘Buy American’

Readers who responded to an unscientific News Journal poll were divided on whether city government should always buy American-made vehicles.

The online survey focused on Mansfield Mayor Tim Theaker’s recent decision to purchase three Nissan vans for use by water repair and utility collection workers.

Dan Mapes, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers, criticized the mayor at two city council meetings for departing from the city’s long-held policy of buying American-made vehicles for municipal use.

Readers were asked what policy they’d favor, among three options:

• Thirty-nine percent of the 87 readers who answered the poll clicked on “Yes, always buy American.”

• A smaller group, 35.6 percent, opted for “The issue isn’t that simple.”

• The smallest group, 25.3 percent, chose “Always go for the lowest price.”

Readers supporting strict “Buy American” policies tended to make a similar argument:

“American manufacturing money stays in America and helps support the infrastructure of cities,” said one person, who did not leave a name.

“We are America and even though the mayor bought local, the company is foreign and all the profits go back to a foreign land, so buying local didn’t keep the money here,” Arnold Salyers said.

“It seems to me that the City of Mansfield, with all its fiscal problems, should understand the value of American manufacturing,” another reader said. “The lost tax base from the loss of manufacturing helped put Mansfield in financial distress. Save $3,000 per van, what does that cost in the big picture?”

“To me when gov buys Non American that is a slap in the face to all our veterans,” said Tammy Clapper.

Readers who responded by saying the issue is complex mentioned a variety of issues:

“Frequently people only see that the “label” is not USA. They don’t seem to realize how many U.S. products are in part manufactured overseas and shipped back for the assembly process,” said a reader who didn’t leave a name. “In the recent past, U.S. automakers charged high prices and put out an inferior product compared to the foreign auto makers. I think this is slowly changing because of the consumer.”

“Not all American-made vehicles have American-made parts,” Deborah Mount wrote. “I would rather know the quality of the vehicles and buy the one (new or used) that is the best value considering the price and repair costs. Will the Nissan vans last well and not need repairs? If so, it may have been a good idea. If they don’t last and cost a lot to repair, it was a bad idea.”

“Lowest price doesn’t mean best deal. You need to look at the total cost of ownership, (i.e. repairs, fuel mileage and price of vehicle),” another reader wrote.

“I’ve owned GM vehicles all my life and my father spent 33 years as an employee of GM,” a reader said. “The day they closed the most efficient GM stamping plant, I said ‘adios’ to buying any more of their products. How many slaps in the face do you take?”

Mansfield Safety-Service Director Lori Cope also was among those who responded by saying the issue is complex. City officials put considerable time and research into the decision, and the repair garage supervisor was asked whether that department could manage Nissan repairs, she said.

“It was not an ‘off the cuff’ purchase, but a well thought one,” Cope wrote. “We struggled as an administration and made a final decision to do what was fiscally responsible for the taxpayers’ money, rather than be concerned with a company who closed its doors and left our city. We answer to the public and cannot allow ourselves to be bullied into spending their money unwisely,” she wrote.

The readers who said government always should opt for lowest price included John Rutledge. “It is a good business decision. It’s about time that the taxpayers’ money was spent properly. Taxpayers are not here to support organized labor. Especially at an additional cost,” he wrote.

“GM left us. They walked away,” said another reader who opted for seeking the lowest price. “It was a business decision; Mansfield made a solid business decision to buy the best priced vehicles to do the job needed. If GM felt any obligation to the area, they would have negotiated a better price.”

“Unions have been fighting for years for fair wages and benefits for existing workers all the while companies have steadily moved production out of the country. Until this is addressed at a national level ‘Buy American’ has little meaning,” said reader Mark Ritchie.

lmartz@gannett.com

419-521-7229

Twitter: @MNJmartz

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My thoughts on this is people don’t have faith in the American worker anymore and are willing to buy cheaper throw away items coming from those who actually support terrorism, and we wonder who the terrorist is?

I talk to folks every day, and what do they look at first? That’s right, the cheapest thing they can buy not realizing the ramifications. Surely most of those who have this mindset are those who work for us! They don’t care, they make 7% sales tax on EVERYTHING sold not matter where its made. What THEY don’t realize is they are actually hurting themselves more than helping themselves. This 7% and what THEY pay in taxes is not enough to sustain safety of the people. This would not be a problem if retailers paid their people better so they could be viable tax payers, but they don’t! Retail in general you are seeing a false premise of low prices when people who have lost good factory jobs making these things become those who sell or stock shelves for those who have replaced the American worker. What folks don’t REALIZE is these same people who have lost these jobs they worked hard at are now a liability on the Federal Government though HUGE TAX REFUNDS, which is now the American economy in a nutshell once again that cannot sustain itself. Retailers and their people surely can care less about the Holiday season sales (low profit margins) long hours, it’s the TAX SEASON (see’s high profit margins) people making money paying taxes. Wouldn’t we want to see this all season long, rather than 3 months out of the year?

Maybe those who refute my group know who the terrorists are or have an agenda to where this is heading? Don’t we the American worker have the right to know what this means to our National Security? They know these are menial low pay jobs that cost the Fed, so why not focus on this and fix it?
WE CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE TO SELL OUT OUR CHILDREN ON THE PREMISE WE ARE GOING TO STOP THE BLEEDING CATERING TO THE ELITE AND THEIR NEED TO NOT SHARE THE WEALTH? – OBAMA LIED!!! – MY HEALTHCARE NEARLY DOUBLED AS WELL!, HMMMM? – YES, SCRATCH YOUR HEADS AND SAY HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I SAY ITS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE JUST SAY…UH-HUH????
DEBT CLOCK! –  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, AND KEEP WONDERING WHY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES ARE ERODING, IT’S THE CHEAP SKATES FAULT!!!!! – IN THIS CASE, THE MAYOR OF MANSFIELD – LOL!
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Executive Session put on agenda by Prosecutors Office, yet we still don’t know the question and the people say…uh-huh????

Here we have the Prosecutors office, in this case the late James Mayers office we elected for these matters putting on the agenda “executive session” – really, how about a question so the public knows why the commissioners have to go into executive session?

The Prosecutor’s office called an has added to the agenda an executive session to discuss imminent court action with the Commissioners on Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at 9:30 a.m.Stacey L. Crall, Clerk
Board of Commissioners
Richland County, Ohio
419-774-5551
By Law

121.22 Public meetings – exceptions.

(C) All meetings of any public body are declared to be public meetings open to the public at all times. A member of a public body shall be present in person at a meeting open to the public to be considered present or to vote at the meeting and for purposes of determining whether a quorum is present at the meeting.

The minutes of a regular or special meeting of any public body shall be promptly prepared, filed, and maintained and shall be open to public inspection. The minutes need only reflect the general subject matter of discussions in executive sessions authorized under division (G) or (J) of this section.

(G) Except as provided in divisions (G)(8) and (J) of this section, the members of a public body may hold an executive session only after a majority of a quorum of the public body determines, by a roll call vote, to hold an executive session and only at a regular or special meeting for the sole purpose of the consideration of any of the following matters:

 Did this happen? – NO! – The Prosecutors office called this meeting by simply calling Stacy Crall and getting on the agenda, say what? The people were also shut out of this meeting, by LAW here it CLEARLY states in (C) above under 121.22 Public Meetings and Exceptions – where’s the exception other than Al from the MNJ saying this is covered under Sunshine Law?

My question here once again is WHY Donald Zehner and Attorney’s were at this meeting in place of the Prosecutors office? Al says once again this is none of OUR business based on Sunshine Law even though we the people were shut out! They did how ever admit this had to do with Ben Bissman and an illegal sale of Property, STILL have no idea why Donald Zehner and Attorney were allowed to attend for this yet we the people could not? 

Is ANYONE the least bit curious to why the Prosecutor conveniently committed suicide 3 days later after calling for this illegal meeting we the people were shut out of entirely with exception to those here, and those who were later added? 

Meeting Minutes from their site:

CERTIFICATE OF THE RICHLAND COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

In accordance with Ohio Revised Code Section 305.11, the Clerk of the Board of Richland County Commissioners hereby submits the following record of the Commissioners’ September 23, 2014 meeting, for recording into the Commissioners’ Journal, Volume 86, under the same date.

 

RICHLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

Regular Meeting, Tuesday, September 23, 2014

COMMISSIONERS’ BOARDROOM

COUNTY ADMIN. BLDG., MANSFIELD, OHIO

Call to Order:               9:31 a.m.

In Attendance:             Commissioners: Utt, Olson, Wert

Excused:

Clerk:                           Stacey L. Crall

Guests:                        See Below

Tape:                           SEPT2314

 

Topic: Executive Session

Tape:   0.0.10

Present: Andrew Keller, Mike Bear, Richland Source, News Journal, Lt. Zehner

Discussion: Andrew Keller, Assisting Prosecuting Attorney, suggested the Commissioners enter into executive session to have a conference with their attorneys to discuss a dispute which is the subject of imminent court action.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to enter into executive session to consult with attorneys on a dispute which is the subject of imminent court action seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Out of executive session 10:03 a.m.

 

Topic:  Commissioners

Tape: 0.0.52

Present:  News Journal, Richland Source, Andrew Keller, Mike Bear, Lt. Zehner

Discussion: During executive session the Board discussed a dispute which is the subject of imminent court action with two attorneys from the Prosecutor’s office.

 

Topic: Peoples Community Center

Tape: 0.01.57

Present:  News Journal, Richland Source, Rachel Stephens

Discussion: Commissioner Olson commented he just talked to Barry Armstrong from the State taxation office regarding their vacation of the office space at Peoples Community Center. They plan to come back and take the copy machine. Some of the furniture has been claimed by other county offices. Commissioner Utt stated there are three desks and cubicle dividers left. The Erie/Huron/Richland County Community Action is interested in the space.

 

 

Topic:  Central Services

Tape:   0.05.50

Present:  Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal, Richland Source

Discussion: Cathy Mosier, Director of Central Services, stated they are always looking at different opportunities for savings. The County has been a member of the U.S. Communities Purchasing Alliance, in the past, and participated in one of their contracts. They are a non-profit agency, established by local government to assist public agencies in the reduction of the cost of goods purchased.  In review of the office supply contract there could be a savings to the County in the amount of $1,400 a month. Central Services is requesting the Commissioners to renew their membership with U.S. Communities Purchasing Alliance and to utilize the office supply contract through Friends Business Source under ORC 9.48 (3)(D). Membership is free.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to renew the membership to U.S. Communities Purchasing Alliance to utilize the office supply contract through Friends Business Source under ORC 9.48 (3) (D) seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: This will provide a savings from the current office supply contract.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Procurement Cards

Tape:   0.11.07

Present:  Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal, Richland Source

Discussion: Cathy reviewed the meeting held yesterday with Commissioner Utt, Stacey Crall, Auditor employees and Chase Bank regarding the procurement card contract. Chase Bank is not happy with how the process is working and the payment schedule. There is a 25 day payment requirement that is difficult to meet especially when the bill is received 10 days into the 25. Commissioner Utt noted they also believe any other bank will have the same issues. The Board discussed in length the need and use of procurement cards and the county’s current policy. Cathy is recommending cancelling the contract with an effective date of December 31, 2014. This will allow time to issue Requests for Proposals from someone else and start in January.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to cancel the procurement card program with Chase Bank effective December 31, 2014 seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Procurement Cards

Tape: 0.32.51

Present:  Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Cathy reviewed dates have not been chosen for the new proposal and would like the Auditor to review the terms of the proposal.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to authorize advertising for Request for Proposals for a Procurement Card program seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services

Tape: 0.34.21

Present: Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Cathy reviewed the renewal with Superior Dental will have the same rates and program we currently have. The renewal will be effective January 1, 2015 for one year. Genesis manages our VEBA and flexible spending accounts. Their renewal also has no changes to the contract. However we would like to add a carryover of $500 for flexible spending into 2015 that must be used by March 31, 2015. Cathy also requested the renewal with Employers Health Coalition for CVS/Caremark. The projected savings for 2015 is 2.89%. The current rebates received are about $35,000 every quarter. Employers Health Coalition negotiates savings on prescription medications for us.

Motion:  Commissioner Olson moved to renew contracts with Superior Dental, Genesis, with a $500 roll over of flexible spending, and Employers Health Coalition seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Health Insurance

Tape:   0.38.51

Present:  Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Cathy inquired about the contract with Assurant and offering the supplemental insurance policies. Commissioner Olson asked if the problems had been corrected on premiums. Cathy said yes. Cathy stated Assurant has good products to offer employees. 380 employees participated and she knows there will be more interested during the upcoming open enrollment time. Rachel Stephens stated Assurant has been good to work with. When problems arose they helped fix them. A group rate is being offered to the employees for the supplemental insurance programs. The employee is solely responsible for the payment of the premium, through payroll deduction. Commissioner Olson commented on the life insurance for the employee paid and offered by the County. If administration becomes so cumbersome then it may not be worth continuing the contract to offer these extra policies. Commissioner Olson reviewed he spent three weeks reviewing where the county is financially and how things look for 2015. 2015 is very concerning. The county has not recovered from the 2008 recession. Offering supplemental insurance is a benefit but not a necessity when administration becomes so difficult.

1.02.06 Cathy inquired if the Commissioners wanted to maintain the current VEBA levels at $300 for single and $600 for family and will the employee contribution for health insurance increase the $5 per month. The Board said yes to the $5 increase and maintaining current VEBA incentive levels. Cathy inquired whether an employee who is on the buyout this year, completed all the wellness points, did not receive the VEBA payment but wants to join the health insurance plan next year, would they have the low deductible? Commissioner Olson said no he would not be in favor in that. Whenever you can maintain a policy you should and not allow exceptions.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to maintain the wellness VEBA incentive for 2015 at $300 for single and $600 for family and approve the $5 per month increase for the employee portion of health insurance premium seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Health Insurance

Tape:   1.05.57

Present: Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: The Board agreed to allow Assurant to continue to offer their supplemental insurance programs to employees.

 

Topic:  Central Services – Health Insurance

Tape: 1.07.32

Present: Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: Chip Knoop, from CBIZ, presented the funding information to the Commissioners with no changes in the plan for 2015. Based on the analysis the increase in funding is 1%. Large claims have decreased to help with the low increase. Commissioner Olson wonders if this is also a result of our wellness program really working. Commissioner Olson commented on the need for control of obesity in 2015. Cathy added the benefits fair is October 14th and there will be 20 vendors there regarding wellness. Commissioner Olson stated each office needs to allow their employees time to go the benefit fair to participate in the activities and talk to the vendors present. Commissioner Olson asked Cathy to provide information on the benefits fair so the Commissioners could send out a letter on the significance of the event. Chip stated about 47% of the county employees have the low deductible. Chip reviewed the renewal premium for stop loss with Anthem is being proposed to increase by $200,000. The current stop loss is at $175,000. Chip reviewed the history of claims and alternatives with Anthem on changing the stop loss level. Increasing the stop loss level means more risk the county will assume but the premium would decrease. Chip recommends increasing the stop loss to $200,000.

1.55.23 Chip reviewed three other documents prepared reviewing the CEBCO health insurance program. The review is on medical coverage only not prescription. Chip reviewed the information on their five plans and comparing to the county’s current plan. It appears the best for the county is to keep what we have now but this should be reviewed annually.

Motion:  Commissioner Wert moved to renew the contract with Anthem and increasing the stop loss amount to $200,000 seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Central Services

Tape:   2.08.08

Present: Chip Knoop, Cathy Mosier, Rachel Stephens, News Journal

Discussion: This Thursday is the next insurance meeting; Cathy asked if this information would be shared. The Board said yes. Commissioner Olson wanted to inform Chip the relationship with him has been professional and one of the most satisfactory the Commissioners have. Commissioner Olson trusts the work provided from his multiple years of work and understanding of the industry. Thank you for the service you provide to the county and you earn every penny you are paid. Commissioners Utt and Wert agree. Commissioner Olson asked for the name and address of the President and CEO of CBIZ so a letter can be written. Chip thanked the Commissioners for their comments. Commissioner Olson asked about the possibility of Townships joining the plan. Chip stated in an email an analysis would need to be completed to determine the risk the county would be assuming by adding a Township. The cost of the analysis will be $3,000.

 

Topic: Record of Proceedings

Tape:   2.22.32

Present: News Journal

Discussion:  The Board reviewed the Record of Proceedings for September 18, 2014.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to certify the Record of Proceedings for September 18, 2014 seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Requisitions

Tape:   2.22.42

Present:  News Journal

Discussion: The Board reviewed the list of requisitions for approval.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to approve the list of requisitions submitted for approval seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Engineer – Rock Salt

Tape:   2.23.18

Present: News Journal

Discussion: The Board reviewed the second advertisement for rock salt materials to see if any bids will be received.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to authorize advertising for rock salt material on September 23, 2014 with a bid opening on October 9, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Township Roads

Tape:   2.24.01

Present: News Journal

Discussion: The Board reviewed the resolution submitted by the Monroe Township Trustees regarding closing Monroe Township Road 438 for the Malabar Heritage days on September 27 and 28, 2014 from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to authorize the closing of Monroe Township Road 438 from 7:00 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. on September 27 and September 28, 2014 for the Malabar Farm Heritage Days seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  County Administration Building

Tape:   2.24.41

Questions from October 16th Commissioners meeting caught on tape when the record was shut off, why was that? – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2jlNNfKIU

Minutes of this meeting as you see are vague and general, hmmm?

CERTIFICATE OF THE RICHLAND COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

In accordance with Ohio Revised Code Section 305.11, the Clerk of the Board of Richland County Commissioners hereby submits the following record of the Commissioners’ October 16, 2014 meeting, for recording into the Commissioners’ Journal, Volume 86, under the same date.

 

RICHLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

Regular Meeting, Thursday, October 16, 2014

COMMISSIONERS’ BOARDROOM

COUNTY ADMIN. BLDG., MANSFIELD, OHIO

Call to Order:               9:30 a.m.

In Attendance:             Commissioners: Utt, Olson, Wert

Clerk:                           Stacey L. Crall

Guests:                        See Below

Tape:                           OCT1614

 

Topic: Commissioners

Tape:   0.0.13

Present: Attorney Jim Wagner, News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Citizen

Discussion: Commissioner Utt noted the first item on the agenda is for an executive session to discuss pending litigation.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to enter into executive session to discuss pending litigation seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: Randy Shepard, citizen, asked for the case number since it is pending litigation. Commissioner Olson noted it is more accurate to state imminent litigation because nothing has been filed yet. Randy asked about what litigation. Attorney Wagner explained the topic is to force a lease option agreement that is in default. Randy asked for a copy of the lease agreement, since it is a public record.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Out of executive session at 9:56 a.m.

 

Topic: Commissioners

Tape: 0.01.58

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: Commissioner Utt reported Attorney Wagner will contact the person in question about the default lease and communicate back with the Commissioners.

 

Commissioner Olson stepped out of the office.

 

Topic: Requisitions

Tape:   0.02.41

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board reviewed the list of requisitions for approval.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to approve the list of requisitions seconded by Commissioner Utt.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, absent; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic:  Transfers

Tape:   0.03.17

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion:  The Board reviewed the weekly interdepartmental transfers and appropriations.

Motion:  Commissioner Wert moved to approve the weekly transfers and appropriations seconded by Commissioner Utt.

Other Comments: Commissioner Olson re-entered the meeting. Randy asked about changing the agenda to note it was imminent litigation. Clerk Crall stated it was her mistake for the agenda and the minutes will reflect the correct reason for the executive session. Commissioner Olson stated the problem with the lease agreement and forcing your rights it is more imminent than pending. Randy asked why the Prosecuting Attorney is not litigating the issue. Commissioner Olson reviewed when the issue started there is a potential of Federal law being part of the action and Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys suggested Attorney Wagner because of his expertise in property law. Randy asked was it put in writing from the Prosecutor himself that they would not litigate the issue. Commissioner Olson said nothing is in writing. We had a meeting with Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys on the issue. Randy believes the Prosecutor is the only one person who can represent the Commissioners and has to put in writing when they will not handle a case. Commissioner Olson disagrees. Lawyers in the Prosecutor’s office are assigned to specific duties.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Wastewater – Kochheiser Road

Tape:   0.08.46

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board reviewed a letter from Keith Amstutz, Vice President of Shaffer, Johnston, Lichtenwalter regarding the Kochheiser Road sanitary sewer bid award. Commissioner Olson reviewed the letter also states due to the contractor’s limited experience that the construction inspectors should oversee the work closely. Clerk Crall reported the construction inspection will be completed by K. E. McCartney.

Motion: Commissioner Wert moved to award the Kochheiser Road sanitary sewer project to Shrock Premier Custom Construction, LLC at a bid price of $239,387.35 seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Engineer – Rock Salt

Tape: 0.11.16

Present:  News Journal, Attorney Jim Wagner, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board reviewed a letter from Adam Gove, Chief Deputy Engineer, regarding the rock salt bids. Only one bid was received and with a limit of tonnage to be received. In efforts to secure rock salt for the winter Adam is recommending accepting the bid. Commissioner Olson commented on the need for use of more grit this winter. Commissioner Wert stated he does not like to be in this position paying double the cost, over last year, and be limited to the amount of rock salt to be received.

Motion:  Commissioner Wert moved to accept the bid from Detroit Salt, Co, at $78.62 per ton at a maximum amount of 5,000 tons seconded by Commissioner Olson.

Other Comments: Commissioner Olson agrees. It is a free market with supply and demand but it has never been explained why the supply is so short. The Engineer and Townships have some reserves but not enough for the entire winter. Brine treated grit will be used whenever possible. It will be difficult to share the amount of salt being received.

Vote: Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Central Services – Food Service

Tape:   0.15.01

Present:  News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Rick Freeman, Citizen

Discussion: The contract is available, to sign, for food services with Trinity Services Group.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to sign the contract for food services with Trinity Group based upon the vendor’s bid received on July 10, 2014, awarded on August 21, 2014, and as reflected on page 4b of the contract documents seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:   Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Wastewater

Tape:   0.16.15

Present:  News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Rick Freeman, Citizen

Discussion: Rick Freeman, Director of Wastewater, informed the Commissioners one of his employees is doing much better with their medical problems. Billy’s title was Chief of Maintenance and Luann’s was Superintendent. When Luann retired Billy was recently promoted to Superintendent. The Chief Maintenance position is still vacant along with a maintenance technician position. Rick requested permission to advertise for both positions. The other employee who has been out on sick leave is due back next week. The Board discussed the job description, requirements and pay rate. Wastewater operator’s license is not required for the positions. Commissioner Olson added it would be good during the interview process to ask if the candidate is interested in obtaining the licenses.

Motion: Commissioner Olson moved to authorize advertising for two vacant positions at Wastewater seconded by Commissioner Wert.

Other Comments: None further.

Vote:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes. Motion carried.

 

Topic: Health Insurance Meeting

Tape:   0.28.34

Present: News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: The Board called Cathy Mosier, Director of Central Services, to inquire about the 1:30 p.m. health insurance meeting. Cathy stated she would like to cancel it with the Commissioners’ approval. The Board agreed to cancel the meeting.

 

Topic: Citizens’ Concerns

Tape:   0.29.50

Present: News Journal, Randy Shepherd, Connie Garber, Phil Sydnor, Citizen

Discussion: Phil Sydnor asked how to pursue threats he is receiving over the internet. Phil stated he will not go into the Sheriff’s office and wants the Commissioners to facility a meeting with the Sheriff to address the threats. Connie Garber questioned the Commissioners of the killing of her son. Commissioner Olson stated they did not have any information on the incident, except what has been printed in the news paper. Phil stated the whole public is talking and is upset. Citizens are expressing their concerns of fraud in the county. Randy spoke of his personal legal issues he has been having with the City and County over the years and mentioned to the Commissioners in previous meetings.

 

ADJOURNMENT: There being no further county business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 10:47 a.m. at tape 0.52.31.

 

Submitted by:  Stacey L. Crall

 

BE IT RESOLVED the Richland County Board of Commissioners hereby accepts the foregoing as the correct record of proceedings of the board meeting held October 16, 2014 in Mansfield, Ohio.

 

Mr. Wert moved adoption of the foregoing resolution. Mr. Olson seconded the motion. The roll, being called upon adoption, resulted as follows:  Mr. Utt, yes; Mr. Olson, yes; Mr. Wert, yes.

 

 

 

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ATTEST:  ________________________       ___________________________________

CLERK                                          BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

RICHLAND COUNTY, OHIO

 

CERTIFICATE

The foregoing is hereby certified as the official record of proceedings of the Richland County Board of Commissioners meeting October 16, 2014.

 

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Gary Utt, Sr., Chairman

 

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Stacey L. Crall, Clerk

BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

RICHLAND COUNTY, OHIO

 

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Only 4 of us showed this time, next time we will bring enough for a Jury!

Only 4 of us showed this time, next time we will bring enough for a Jury!

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Just curious since we are shut out if the Grand Jury for the Garber incident will have access to this?

Remember the 911 call logs, and the pictures of Sara Knowlton’s text messages?

I sure do, and they make NO SENSE of what happened next. Let us see IF Investigators and/or the Prosecutor (whom ever it is) picked up on this? I noticed something very strange I thought I would share that maybe someone can shed their perspective on as well.

***”Knowlton called police again shortly after 8 p.m. saying she believed Garber had a gun at his parent’s house, 3400 Mill Run Road. During the call, Knowlton told the dispatch her mother-in-law, Connie, told her Garber had a gun, but neither actually saw a weapon. Minutes later, Garber texted Knowlton to say he had a gun.”

***”Deputies were first dispatched to 3400 Mill Run Road at 8:13 p.m. March 16. Ten minutes later, one of the deputies radioed for an ambulance in reference to shots fired, according to the recording.”

***”A Bellville Police Department officer, Jason Hutchison, was the first to arrive at the home at 8:19 p.m. He was told by an unidentified deputy through dispatch: “Do not go up there by yourself.””

***”Sheriff’s Deputy Andrew Knee and Lt. Donald Zehner arrived a minute later, along with Sgt. James Nicholson. Knee and Zehner were a two-man car, Masi said.”

Here we have text message one that depicts “just so u know I have a gun now too…so don’t fuck with me!!!                    Received on Sara’s Phone @ 8:15pm

I STILL question WHY he says…”I have a gun now too” – who had a gun or threatened him into needing to say this?

TextMessage-1

911 log indicates Garber shooting escalated quickly

LEXINGTON — A radio recording between 911 dispatch and Richland County Sheriff’s deputies reveals how quickly the situation escalated the night Brian Garber was shot and killed.

Deputies were first dispatched to 3400 Mill Run Road at 8:13 p.m. March 16. Ten minutes later, one of the deputies radioed for an ambulance in reference to shots fired, according to the recording.

Garber, 28, was pronounced dead at 8:30 p.m.

The events that led to the shooting started an hour before with a domestic violence call to Garber’s residence across the street, 3425 Mill Run Road. Garber’s wife, Sara Knowlton, and mother, Connie Garber, told police Garber was upset and beating up on them.

Knowlton called police again shortly after 8 p.m. saying she believed Garber had a gun at his parent’s house, 3400 Mill Run Road. During the call, Knowlton told the dispatch her mother-in-law, Connie, told her Garber had a gun, but neither actually saw a weapon. Minutes later, Garber texted Knowlton to say he had a gun.

A Bellville Police Department officer, Jason Hutchison, was the first to arrive at the home at 8:19 p.m. He was told by an unidentified deputy through dispatch: “Do not go up there by yourself.”

Sheriff’s Deputy Andrew Knee and Lt. Donald Zehner arrived a minute later, along with Sgt. James Nicholson. Knee and Zehner were a two-man car, Masi said.

The crew was followed by Deputy James Berry, according to the radio traffic. According to previous reports, Deputy Jeff Frazier was also at the scene, but he is not mentioned in the log of radio communication.

Deputies spent several seconds discussing which address Garber was at until Zehner advised Garber was at the house “up the hill. Straight across from where we were” during the domestic violence call.

At 8:22 p.m., Zehner asked dispatch to “hold traffic until we can advise further.” A minute later, he asked for an ambulance in reference to shots fired, according to the recording.

Here is the message I find the most interesting since THEY are making a big deal out of these messages depicting he had a gun. I find it odd at the same time Zehner calls radio silence Brian supposedly sends this message “those pussy cops can throw me in jail put me in prison…it doesnt matter what they do cuz once im out…U R DEAD!!!                   Received 8:22pm????

One minute later they call for an ambulance? Call me a conspiracy theorist, but this don’t make sense. One can only think they saw this message and in a rage marched in like Matt Garber said, went up the stairs in seconds and gunned down their son in a rage over it!, or they typed these text messages themselves?

TextMessage-2

“After the deputies secured from the domestic call they resume their patrol activities and handled any pending calls. Patrol cars are assigned zones and would have returned to those zones,” Sheriff’s Maj. Joe Masi said. “In any emergency call, deputies try to respond as quickly and safely as they can from their current location if dispatched to the call.

“At this time, the office has no further comment as to the deputies’ response times and locations when dispatched,” he said.

Procedure kicks in

After the call for an ambulance, things started to slow down a bit.

Deputy Berry was instructed to “get the father (Matt Garber). Secure him in a safe place.” At 8:24 p.m., Zehner told dispatch to get Sheriff Steve Sheldon and Masi on the phone.

Two minutes later, he also called for Sgt. Will Gordon and crime lab “ASAP on all of them.” Gordon was told “you’ll need your whole team.”

Zehner asked dispatch, “Where’s my squad,” which officially checked in at the scene at 8:35 p.m., 911 Director Lisa Burdine said. He told emergency personnel to wait at the bottom of the drive for a deputy to bring them in.

Zehner said, “I’ll only need one or two of them to come up. Whoever’s at the end of the driveway.”

Over the next couple of hours, the recording logs deputies checking in and out of the scene on patrols and trying to find sheriff supervisors and detectives.

About an hour later, deputies called for the Richland County Prosecutor’s office. The Richland County Coroner’s office is never mentioned in the log. – This is a HUGE issue as well, WHY was the Coroner NOT called? It’s being said because Donald Zehner the trigger man was out late at his favorite bar on the same day when they are not allowed to consume alcohol inside of 24 hours, hmmm? Another question that needs to be answered!

BCI still investigating

Details about the shooting are still slow to be released as the state Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation conducts its investigation. The sheriff’s office asked the agency to take over the officer-involved shooting shortly after the incident occurred, Masi said.

BCI denied two News Journal public information requests for a death scene checklist and an evidence list detailing sheriff-issued firearms confiscated as part of the investigation. The documents are still part of an investigation and therefore not required to be released, BCI wrote.

One of the records requested does not exist, BCI added in its letter of denial.

“In regards to your request for a death scene checklist, I can inform you that no document of that nature exists in connection with this investigation,” the letter stated.

A death scene investigation checklist is designed to help officers better document a crime scene involving a dead body. It records who called in the death, the condition of the body when found, notes about the surroundings and other details.

They’re helpful to law enforcement, but not required by all departments.

The Richland County Sheriff’s Office and Mansfield Police Department both require that a death scene checklist be completed for any death investigation, according to their respective policies.

Requests for BCI’s policy on submitting death scene checklists were not returned Monday.

Masi also denied a News Journal request for a receipt for sheriff-issued guns confiscated by BCI. His office does not have a written document detailing which guns were confiscated, but he does have record of the guns issued to each deputy during their duty, he said.

kdurbin@nncogannett.com
419-521-7205
Twitter: @njKaitlinDurbin

 

Now 8 months later we have a Grand Jury Assembled yet we don’t know who the Prosecutor is? Ours claimed “Conflict of Interest”, THEY SAY…this was sent to Cuyahoga County Prosecutor while folks say uh-huh! Do we not realize there is a PROCESS for this? None of which has been done or scrutinized with exception of those in the Mansfielders Perspective Group on facebook.

The media has said Judge DeWeese is presiding over the Grand Jury, yet we don’t know who the Prosecutor is? This is odd because the Judge has absolutely NOTHING to do with a Grand Jury other than to make people speak who refuse too!

What’s scary about this that people don’t know? IF they DON’T INDICT everything we don’t know can’t be questioned because there are no PUBLIC RECORDS what so ever on this? Once the Grand Jury is done…

problem solved, or will this bring more problems????

 

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One Mansfielder asks…Who can save Mansfield, Richland County?

Maybe those who are joining Mansfielders Perspective can? One place where the TRUTH prevails!!!! We are an ever growing Community of concerned citizens banning together to get the truth out on ALL cover ups by local officials and media, until we came around these things went unchecked. Now that there’s a place to safely keep the records of these events those with short term memory loss can go down memory lane to see what’s going on here!

Yes, there is a WALL OF SHAME that includes wrong doers who are being hand picked by our County Officials which only goes to show the support our no justice system works for those who are supposedly here to keep us safe? They have sent many frauds to try and silence this group, some of which can be found on Question Politics page. Please click on the link to view the many questions we have, like WHO’S DREW TYLER? – This person and a few others have been the mouthpiece who defends these frauds, maybe if investigators would DO THEIR JOBS as we ask they could find out?

We are STILL WAITING on our Commissioners answers we asked at the October 16th meeting to what they are going to do about the Sheriff and the frauds we asked which was taken off the record. Here is the meeting minutes from the 16th, then you can see ours here!

Who can save Mansfield, Richland County?

I have always assumed someone is innocent until proven guilty. Our criminal justice system is the best in the world. However, it has been sorely contaminated. It is made up of people who make up today’s culture. Unfortunately today, some don’t follow Judeo-Christian laws that have made us a moral, strong and great nation.

The Mansfield/Richland County area, over time, has been referred to as “Little Chicago” and “Rotten to the Core.” Most of the citizens (a silent majority) are hard-working, God-fearing people. Being fair, even an atheist can be moral and of high integrity.

The Lord said of Jerusalem: “If you can find but one person who deals honestly and seeks truth, I will forgive this city.”

Is there one truthful person in this city and county who can answer the following questions?

• What happened to Reeves and Fortney?

• What happened with Bosko and Maurice King III?

• What is the deal with Tinney?

• Why all the darkness involving the killing of Brian Garber?

• Why wasn’t the coroner called immediately? ORC#313.12.

• Deputies train with NAMI? Why no negotiator?

• Failure to produce public records in seven month bodes of a cover up. What is being covered up?

What a sad series of events that taints the entire sheriff’s department and court system. Officers take an oath to be truthful, knowledgeable and obedient to police policies and procedures, follow state and federal laws and the constitution.

Would that one person who can bring truth and justice back to our community, please stand up, come forward and save this city and county.

Patty Brook

Mansfield

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Prosecutors file 13 subpoenas in Brian Garber shooting – What they are saying????

Prosecutors file 13 subpoenas in Brian Garber shooting

 Kaitlin Durbin, kdurbin@nncogannett.com5:54 p.m. EST November 4, 2014

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/local/2014/11/04/prosecutors-file-subponeas-brian-garber-shooting/18483717/

These Deputy's apparently DON'T value human life?

These Deputy’s apparently DON’T value human life?

MANSFIELD – The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office recently filed 13 subpoenas to meet with several of the key players in the investigation of the deputy-involved shooting of local man Brian Garber.

Garber, 28, was shot and killed by an unidentified Richland County Sheriff’s deputy around 8:30 p.m. March 16, after his wife called 911 saying he had sent her text messages threatening that he had a gun.

The prosecutor’s office has been reviewing the incident and investigative materials collected by the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation since late Prosecutor James Mayer Jr. turned over the investigation in early September.

They’ll determine whether to take the case before a local grand jury, which is currently in session.

All of the main witnesses in the shooting investigation are being subpoenaed, according to information filed with the Richland County Clerk of Courts.

That list includes Garber’s parents, Connie and Matt Garber; wife, Sara Knowlton; Richland County Sheriff employees Lt. Donald Zehner, Sgt. James Nicholson, Deputy Jeff Frazier, Deputy Andrew Knee and Deputy James Berry; and BCI lead investigator Cory Momchilov.

Bellville Police Department Officer Jason Hutchinson also was subpoenaed. Hutchinson was the first officer to arrive at Brian’s parents’ home at 3400 Mill Run Road on the night he was shot. Garber was in the upstairs bedroom that had been his in high school when deputies confronted him.

Lexington Police Department Capt. Troy Weaver and officer Michael Beasley also were issued subpoenas. Lexington police were among those agencies responding to Mill Run Road after calls to county dispatch reported Garber had a gun.

A final subpoena was sent to Charles (Jason) Clarke. His connection to the incident is not clear.

If Cuyahoga County prosecutors seek criminal charges, the case will come back to a local grand jury for review for possible indictment, said Joe Frolik, director of communications.

The sheriff’s office has not been able to comment on the case since they asked BCI to handle the investigation. Deputies are being questioned about what happened in that upstairs bedroom that led them to fire at least 16 bullets.

Garber’s family has professed his innocence from the beginning and say they expect to see criminal charges come from the case.

kdurbin@nncogannett.com

419-521-7205

Twitter: @njKaitlinDurbin

What they are saying online

Wayne Volz · Landscaper at Landscaping

my prayers go out to the family and i hope those dirty police rot and you get justice and im very sorry for your loss of a young man

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Levi Wade · Follow

I hope the cops and Judges that was inthis get what is coimg to them, the man was unarmed. This is not the frist time this happen this year. There has been many more shotings from cops for no reason. This needs to stop.

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Lisa Sexton · Pioneer Career and Technology Center

Praying for justice! And Gods peace for the family!

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Fred Levins ·  Top Commenter

It is noteworthy and commendable that Kaitlin Durbin continues to keep a close watch on developments in this case.

Along with Mike Monroe, I find the pace of the pertinent work in Cuyahoga County to be glacial. On the other hand, this case is probably not the only the only thing on their plate and it is out-of-county work, which is something of an unexpected burden for which the prosecutor’s office plausibly could not have planned to address.

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Mike Monroe ·  Top Commenter · Butler, Ohio

Finally! Let’s hope justice is served for closure.

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NONE – They were removed, hmmmm? They were commenting yesterday, wonder where they had gone?

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Comments on facebooks MP group

Phil Sydnor Great job Kaitlin Quinn Durbin staying on top of this! I just heard news of this earlier in the day and applaud your getting this news out before any of us rookies 
I know most of us here want indictments, it’s time our community comes together on this situation. With the lies coming out of the Sheriffs Office on this I will be shocked if no indictments are handed down based on the truth we know shared by this awesome reporter!

November 4 at 6:17pm · Like · 5

Phil Sydnor Thank you too Pam for posting here! 

November 4 at 6:24pm · Like · 4

Kaitlin Quinn Durbin I’m thankful for all the tips you guys call in. I check every one of them!

November 4 at 7:01pm · Unlike · 5

Tyger Parent Yeah, I heard you got a big tip in these today..

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Tyger Parent Great job Caitlin..

November 4 at 7:48pm · Like · 1

Chad Walters This is awesome. I hope it goes all the way. Not to sound too cliché, but I would really like to see justice for Brian.

November 4 at 8:52pm · Unlike · 5

Tyger Parent Yes, Brian deserves justice..

I’m sure the ones involved are freaking out, I’ll be surprised if any of them don’t take some vacation time.

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Randy Shepherd Subpeonas now that is better than summons? That I can believe well sorta maybe. Not real sure How Cuyahoga county got involved? I still question that?

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Phil Sydnor Yes, I too question where our Prosecutor in writing like the law requires said he had a conflict of interest, and where our Attorney General selected a special prosecutor for this issue just the same, in writing. Where are these records that make the process official???

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Dan Litt I don’t normally speak here. I’ve used this forum as an information guide on who’s who and what’s what in Mansfield. I’ve found the truth resides in very few places these days but it seems like it has found purchase here with the exception of a few rabble rousers. That being said I’ve been keeping close track of the Garber boys murder. More than anything about the law that Mr. Shepherd shares or the corrupt officials that Mr. Sydnor expose(s, d) is the almost complete lack of caring into this matter by the regular citizens. 

Be it on this forum, The MNJ page, or real life conversations it seems the only ones who are talking and caring about this issue outside of The Garber family are the people on this site. Even on the MNJ page it’s you people who do a vast majority of the discussion. If the regular joes of Mansfield would open their eyes and realize a small group of around a dozen has kept this case open and in the eyes of those who can do something about it. Just imagine where this case would be right now if thousands would stand also. 

I’m beginning to think that even beyond a corrupt and lawless city is a group of selfish, uncaring people who cry for change but refuse to stand up and achieve it. 

I’m going to receive a shit storm for saying this but I’m going to anyways. have only been around a couple of years and was even removed for a short time for inactivity I think. But where was Connie Garber before her son was murdered? Don’t get me wrong. I am not attacking her. I applaud her standing up and being vocal about this but where was she before? (If she was active before he was killed then I truly apologize but I personally haven’t seen evidence of that). If we all wait until we’re screwed by their dirty politics or we or our loved ones are murdered by their out of control enforcers then nothing will ever change. 

I guess my point to this is in the time I’ve been following this group I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone come here that hasn’t been screwed with already. I don’t recall seeing one person who is here solely to end the corruption they see around them. This war will never be won if the people wait to become victims before joining the battle.

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Randy Shepherd So if James Mayer had a conflict of interest?? Does Bambi Share that very same conflict?? I am not certain due process has ever been reached in this fiasco. 
Here is the biggest fear for the community. Let’s suppose there is no record of due process. So we go through the Grand Jury process a lot of hype and circumstance on the publics dime and time. Two years down the road the guilty says hey this judgment is void becasue due process was never served? Regardless of what the jury says or the lawyers say or the judge says. A void judgment is void and with no effect from its inception.

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Phil Sydnor Dan Litt, long time you have been silent. Good to seen you’re not in attack mode and are now seeing the larger picture. Yes, we have taken this to their doorsteps, now ever have been told an old man once said we bring 95% of our troubles to our own, does this video constitute what’s to come? -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2jlNNfKIU

 

Oct.16th 2014 Richland County Ohio Commissioners Meeting taken off the…

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Dan Litt When you confront evil you are indeed inviting trouble. That doesn’t make it wrong.

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Randy Shepherd Dan. My quest began in 1991. Yes I was directly involved and or drug into this sham in 91. My understanding of this sham goes well beyond my personal plight and as such has effected many good people over the time I have spent. 
The job is not done nor will it ever be done. Ihave dedicated much more time and effort to understanding how this effects the entire community and I chose to be active in seeing it exposed and justice served. I have been plugging away nearly every day for someone while always pursuing my justice for my children.
It is awareness and enlighenment that I bring to the table. Not from a guess or someone said. But from study and experience in thie County. we are makeing progress, welcome aboard.

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Phil Sydnor Funny you say that Dan Litt some who have been recently banned for fake accounts spewing filth were saying we are Evil, really????

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Randy Shepherd I will stay on this. If people want change in County administration of justice, They need to confront the head of county administration. Forget the Magistrates are judges casue they are not. Forget that every person hired by county to administer any county function is not accountable to the heads of county administration.
Oh and Les I forget default judgment is a ministerail (administration) duty of the court.

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Randy Shepherd If not me and not now? Who and when?

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Phil Sydnor Dan, you sure changed your tune some what, do you remember when you were calling this group a bunch of conspiracy nuts? I responded and this is what you said, maybe you have been watching and learned your first impression was incorrect analysis? – “Dan Litt someones got to keep an eye on you Phillip. Just know, as I’m sure you do, that we’re watching you. I don’t think you’ll be hearing from ‘Dan’ again.”

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Randy Shepherd Some time ya just gotta say bring it on bitch, let’s dance. Put on your red shoes and dance the blues.

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Phil Sydnor Funny thing hearing from you again, maybe you don’t realize I keep better records than the clerk of courts – lol!

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Randy Shepherd we to have evloved, so lets not critique just as of yet. Enlightenmant works on very piculiar ways.

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Randy Shepherd Lets hear him out? Doing is tuffer than saying. he has sadio now lets see what he is willing to do?

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Dan Litt I’m not exactly sure what you can do on Facebook other than talk. So I’m a little lost on the willing to do part. Unless you mean meet and greets and Christmas cards. And my answer to that would be no. I have a real life. A real job. A real family. I understand how politics in this town work and I’m not going to put myself out there like you guys. I also know how people in general tend to be psychos so that’s another reason I say no to joining your ‘met in person’ club.

As to what was said in the past. I’ll neither confirm or deny I know anything about that. I’ll let you decide for yourselves and I’ll quietly slip back into randomness and enjoy your page. Regardless of what was said our what is thought, I truly enjoy your page and what it is doing. Have a good one. You probably won’t be hearing from ‘Dan’ again. Lol.

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Anthony McKean kind of freaky if ya ask me i remember his attacks too

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Randy Shepherd I can appreciate that view point to a degree. You say. you know how politics works in this town. we are out to change how politicians do not work in this town. so we have common ground a little bit. 
Even though youknow your family is at risk from the
 politicians in this town you still remain oin that side of the picture? That is where I have some concern. 
As far as what you can od to help resolve the problems your family faces and or will face. what do you believe is the problem?? Where is the proper fix? What are you willing to do to achieve that end? I heard the part about real life and real job and cluck cluck. I can say me to. why even interject that into an otherwise meainigful conversation. It is simple either you want change or you do not. All people have real lives and real jobs, however effort and even extra effort to build and or support community efforts is not to much to ask. ——————————————-

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Phil Sydnor Dan, I don’t mean to sound like Im checking you, but for the record I only keep tabs on fake or suspect accounts. I am happy you have taken the turn to see there’s power in numbers as we question politics. Thank you for requesting others to join us in this fight, this is after all the community we choose to live in away from personal attacks for telling it like it is. Stay tuned, as I have told Drew Tyler and our many attackers we will win this war against those who attack under the darkness of cover. I hope one day you will be free to be who you really are. Thanks!

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READ WHAT THEY HAVE CALLED AS PUBLIC RECORDS HERE, THEY ARE USING THIS TEXT MESSAGE AS THEIR EXCUSE, WHILE I TIE THEIR PUBLIC RECORD TIMELINE AS TIE TO WHAT THIS IS – MURDER! – GO TO BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE TO FIND LINKS THAT IMPLICATE THESE DEPUTY’S AS NOT FOLLOWING PROTOCOL FOR THIS SITUATION!!!! – These men CLEARLY escalated the issue and murdered this man based on the UNKNOWN, having a gun! It’s now shameful they are blaming the parents for this. IF you have had enough, join us on facebook here!

This horror story sounds so familiar to what happened here, will they get away with this? IF they do there will sure to be some kind of retaliation? – http://theantimedia.org/mother-calls-police-to-help-her-son-take-his-medicine/

 

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Lex teen sentenced for taking gun on school grounds – What they are saying!!!!

Lex teen sentenced for taking gun on school grounds

Lou Whitmire, lwhitmir@mansfieldnewsjournal.com

4:20 p.m. EST November 5, 2014

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/local/2014/11/05/lex-teen-sentenced-taking-gun-school-grounds/18538053/?sf33378871=1

 

MANSFIELD – The Lexington teen who brought a loaded gun to football practice in August was sentenced today in Richland County Juvenile Court.

Judge Ron Spon ordered the 15-year-old be sentenced to the Ohio Department of Youth Services for six months, as required by law, but Spon immediately suspended the sentence, laying out numerous conditions and community control/probation until age 21.

Spon said the teen has not had much of a criminal history before this incident.

The teen, whom the News Journal is not identifying, was charged with illegal conveyance of a firearm into a school safety zone in August. In September, the teen was expelled from the Lexington schools, according to Superintendent J. Michael Ziegelhofer.

The teen has served 78 days in juvenile detention. Spon said he would consider releasing the youth on the 90th day, which could be in 12 days, taking into consideration time served. A detention review hearing will be held.

Initially the teen’s attorney Terry Hitchman opposed the media being present for the disposition. Richland County First Assistant Prosecutor John Nieft said he did not oppose the media’s presence. The News Journal was not planning to name the youth, thus the reporter was permitted to stay for the teen’s hearing.

His family members sat quietly in the courtroom.

Spon talked to the teen about the seriousness of his actions.

“When I go home I need to change my behavior,” he told the judge when the judge asked for reassurances that nothing like this would occur in the future.

The judge said he had reports of bullying occurring, and said bringing a weapon to school was not the solution. The teen said he would tell an adult in the future instead of carrying a weapon.

“Never let your own emotions get control of you and drive your decisions. It’s a very bad place to be,” Spon told him.

Spon attached numerous conditions to the teen’s case going forward, including both parents being present to discuss release conditions; the teen can’t be on Lexington schools property; no alcohol or illegal drugs; no possession of firearms, ammunition, air guns or knives; writing an apology letter to the Lexington schools; 100 hours of charity work; and family counseling. The teen also must participate in one positive activity each week, such as a church youth group, athletics or some other wholesome activity, Spon said.

Spon also required the youth participate in a Dream Team peer-oriented mentoring program. Spon will meet with the teen once every two weeks to monitor his progress for three to 15 months, and these meetings will involve parents, probation officer, counselor and others.

Nieft said the youth has anger issues and noted the teen had not had any counseling while incarcerated at the juvenile detention facility.

Earlier, Ziegelhofer said the expulsion is effective for the entire school year. The student will be permitted to return to Lexington schools on the first day of class of the 2015-16 school year, Ziegelhofer said.

Police received a call at 7:23 p.m. Aug. 20 from the football coaching staff. During practice, a student told staff that another student may have brought a gun to practice, police said.

Upon checking, staff found a loaded handgun in a backpack belonging to a student.

Earlier, Lexington police public information Officer Andrew Smallstey said the student was charged with illegal conveyance of a firearm into a school safety zone. No additional charges have been filed.

After being taken into custody without incident, the student told police the weapon was for protection.

Smallstey said the student brought a Ruger P-90, which is a .45-caliber handgun, onto the school grounds.

“The young man just moved into our district from a neighboring district,” Ziegelhofer said earlier. “He was not participating in football. He was interested in playing, but did not have all the requirements completed yet and was at practice observing.”

The 15-year-old boy enrolled in the district Aug. 19.

Ziegelhofer said the boys on the team overheard a conversation about a weapon in a backpack and told staff.

“Our head football coach and his staff handled it perfectly and our kids handled it perfectly,” Ziegelhofer said. “We tell them if you see something, tell someone. We harp on it and the outcome we had is because those kids were willing to do something right.”

Ziegelhofer said he and coaches met with parents and players the day after the incident.

The police incident report was filed by football coach Taylor Gerhardt.

The News Journal filed a public records request with Lexington police for additional police records about the incident. Smallstey said the request will be honored when the investigation is completed.

lwhitmir@nncogannett.com

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Ruth V Schwan ·  Top Commenter · Owner at Purr-L Harbor and Sand and Sea LLC

and again another hand slapping by this judge, the only message you send is “go ahead do what ya want, no need to worry I wont sentence you to what you should be sentenced for”…bet he will also end up in the special response court docket, for some more hand slapping. His name should be on blast, bet ya can get it from any kid at lexington who knows about it.

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Mike Monroe ·  Top Commenter · Butler, Ohio

Deputy Charles Whites son is the word on the street. Why is the Deputy not being charged in this as well. It was his gun right???

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Dan Litt · Galion, Ohio

Word is he’s a sheriffs kid. Is that why he’s not being identified?

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Pamela Kay · Mansfield Senior High School

He’s a juvenile…that is why.

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Dan Litt · Galion, Ohio

That’s funny, so are all the other shooters and kids who bring guns to school whos names are released.

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JUST IN: A detention hearing will be held after 12 more days to see if the teen who brought Ruger P-90 to football practice can be released. Judge Spon attached numerous conditions to the teen’s case going forward.http://ohne.ws/1ol21Go

Lex teen sentenced for taking gun on school grounds

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The Lexington teen who brought a loaded gun to football practice in August was sentenced today in Richland County Juvenile Court. Judge Ron Spon ordered the 15-year-old be sentenced to the Ohio Department of Youth Services for six months, as required by law, but Spon immediately suspended the sentence, laying out…

 

Phil Sydnor

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Grace Rinehardt Ross He may get released?? That sounds like a genius idea!? Lock him up. Don’t know the whole story please tell me he is a well rounded child? Gawd parents pay attention!

17 hours ago · Like · 1

Jackie Javier Before we point the finger at this child why don’t we ask ourselves what happened to this child to push him to this point, who are we to judge him. We need to stop and think just how cruel children can be in today’s world, how do we know what he wasn’t trying to defend himself, I’m not excusing what he did as right BUT we do NOT know but one side of this story, please take that to heart when reading this!
Sincerely, A once troubled teenager!

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Jackie Javier Know that *^

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Liz White-morr We can judge him because he had a gun on school property. Think about the lives that would’ve been changed forever if he used it. Kids are mean but there has always been bullies, its part of life and always will be.

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Jackie Javier No we cannot Judge him, you don’t know his story, his back round or what pushed him to that point, it’s clear that you have not EVER been bullied or know someone who has, why don’t you do yourself a favor and research it, watch the movie “Bully” and the fact that you think that being bullied is a part of life SHAME ON YOU!! I will pray for you and that God has mercy on your soul! Bulling is an epidemic in today’s society, children are killing themselves or even worse because of it, like I said In my earlier post I’m not excusing what he did as right but you don’t know his story you have no idea what that child has had to go through, think before you speak! I wonder if the children were punished that he felt he needed protection from, I bet you won’t be reading about them in an article, they will move on to the next child until they have accomplished on breaking someone different them!!!!
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Amy Tittle Couldn’t have said it better myself Jackie!

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Liz White-morr You don’t know my life, I went to Lexington and was poor. I never fit in wasn’t ever a part of any group. I never once even thought about hurting anyone. My daughter was bullied last year so yes I do know the concern. After all the school shooting lately I don’t know how you can say “we don’t know his side”. I for one don’t care what his side was because he was wrong to have a gun in his possession. Would you still not judge the person if he’d actually used the gun? Maybe this experience will change his life for the better, but he still deserves to be punished.

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Jackie Javier And so do the children that pushed him into doing so, Did he bring the gun to school willing and ready to shoot 10 teachers and and students ????NO , HE WAS FORCED TO FEEL HE NEEDED TO PROTECT HIMSELF, Which further proves my point that you know NOTHING about bullying! I wouldn’t judge anyone without knowing or hearing both sides of the story, the paper has made this 15 year old to look like a monster when in fact he’s far from that, he’s child that was pushed to far!

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Jackie Javier It’s not a concern it’s AN EPIDEMIC, bullying stops at no lengths! The children that were doing the bullying are the ones this article should of been about! He has been punished, for months, while those other children are home with their family’s looking for the next child to bully!!

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Erika Hamner People always speak on what they don’t know. How are you going to say parents pay attention when you don’t even know the story? Smh I pray for people who comment on things they know NOTHING about.. Society

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Angelia Adams Is this the same kid where his dad is a police officer.

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Melissa Clark Greenwald I’m thinking that maybe as parents we should spend more time talking to our kids and keeping an open means of conversation with them. Because kids should tell parents when being bullied, just like we teach our kids to tell if bein touched. I as a parent would go to the end of the earth to stop bullying including confronting the parents of the other kid….just think we need to have more time for our kids and maybe we as parents could stop the violence.

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Dwayne Price PPL REALLY SHOULD GET MORE INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING ASSUMPTION ON THINGS THEY HAVE NO DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF

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Jackie Javier  SAY IT TWICE Dwayne !!

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Dwayne Price Small Society Jackie

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Jackie Javier Too small, their closed minds and ignorance will come back 10 fold!

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Mike Monroe How’s about the kids dad I’d a DEPUTY SHERIFF???? Why again is Charles White not being charged for this?

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Jackie Javier Why does the father have anything to do with this??? I don’t care if his dad was Jesus Christ himself, he made the decision on his own and is paying for that choice as we speak, who are we to pass judgement on the parents, again you don’t know the entire story or what this family has had to go throught!

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Jackie Javier Through *^

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Karen Tyus-Youngblood We only know what the paper is reporting but people are looking at thus from a common sense standpoint and that tells us that we Dont get loaded handguns and take them to school! What if he had used it? We’d be reading something different and pointing the finger at his parents. Thus young man should have gone and talked with a counselor if he was having problems with someone…its never justified in doing something like this, bullying or not. I was bullied as a kid but I didn’t run home and go get a gun, Geesh !! That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it

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Dwayne Price Everyone that has negative energy and nothing positive to say really should take a self inventory of there own life

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Erika Hamner How about business? Once again you don’t know what the hell went on so why are you even commenting as if you do. Maybe you guys should try praying for the family instead of critizing them.

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Jackie Javier What would we all be saying if this child ended his life instead of taking a gun to school, the fact that these people see nothing wrong with a child who was being so tormented that he felt the his only resort was to bring a gun to the school grounds is sad to me, you all have only been forced to hear what the media has played this out to be, what if this was your child?? Your ignorance will get you no where in this lifetime!!!! Good bad right or wrong, he hurt no one but himself and he is paying for that, can you say the same thing about the children that caused him to go to such lengths?? NO

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Kelli Parish Eater And how many of you know if he was truly being bullied? Facts, not opinions.

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Jackie Javier How do you know he didn’t exhaust all his options, how do you know his voice didn’t go unheard, with all do respect this is 2014 ! And bullying today is not WHAT is was 10 years ago.

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Jackie Javier I know for 100% FACT that this child was pushed to the limits!

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Jackie Javier AND I WILL STAND BESIDE THIS FAMILY AND HELP THEM FIGHT THROUGH THIS FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES! Take a step back and take an open ear to this child, listen to his story before you are so quick to point the finger!

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Phil Sydnor I know the kid who they say was bullying him, his uncle is a retired Deputy, seeing this is a Deputy’s son and there’s much turmoil within the Sheriff’s Dept. wanting to keep things they do hush hush may have more to do with why this young man was scared and needed a gun. The REAL mother is a follower ofhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/ where you can find the truth on this! I too hope this young man gets the help he needs, from what I am told the father don’t like the measures the courts are taking to right the ship. Sounds to me the Sheriff has some house keeping to do himself with lots of issues within. You’ll be lucky if the stepmother don’t call your employer if she don’t like what you’re saying, my MP group was her target when calling mine, says a lot about those who work for us while our Elected officials do nothing! It’s high time these people REALIZE they work for us, not the other way around, one who’s sick of this crap!

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What they are saying so far in the MP group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MansfieldersPerspective/

 

Richard D Michem What his name?

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Mike Monroe Deputy Charles Whites son

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John Benjamin Tatum Another case of a “slap on the wrists”

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Mike Monroe 6 years of probation is not a slap on the wrist for a 15 yr old. The problem is , you have a deputy that had an unsecured firearm that got taken from his residence from his son. Where is the justice in that? I am sure the ORC says something about that.

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Ciara Holmes What’s up with law enforcement throwing their families under the bus?? In this situation, Deputy White let his son take the total blame for this incident,he knows what he did was wrong and he should be charged also,Deputy White should be a shamed of himself,What is he still doing in law enforcement with this kind of mentality?

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Tyger Parent This kid has been through hell in his home, rumor has it he might have carried the gun for protection against dad..

I’d like to know why dad has not been investigated for not having an secured firearm in the home.

Any other citizen in this county or state would have been arrested, charged and sitting in jail awaiting trial..

But because of his badge, he’s getting an pass on it, the juvenile jail is avoiding that issue, Children Services has been ignoring this issue also, and Lexington PD seems to be ignoring it as well as the sheriffs dept.

Where is the justice in that..

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Mike Monroe I wanted to look today what the Law says. I didn’t have time. I know that you don’t have to secure your firearms in your home if you don’t want to, however, once it was taken from the home I’m sure there is a liability

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Phil Sydnor Wow!, Spon should talk to Deputy Zehner – “Never let your own emotions get control of you and drive your decisions. It’s a very bad place to be,” Spon told him.

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Pam Sellards My question is “where did he get the gun?” Wasnt even mentioned in the article!!!

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Mike Monroe Why does the news journal not publish the truth?? Deputy Charles White is not in trouble at all??? What the hell??

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Phil Sydnor Could it be they are believing dads first report the gun was stolen for why he’s not getting charged, or could he be getting punished in another way? Surely not happy from what I heard about the hearing results.

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Mike Monroe Stolen by someone in the house with access? Would that still fall as a liability? Would it really be theft? Its his fathers property he borrowed??!!

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Dwayne Price Phil what is so negative about this Deputy that you have first hand Knowledge of ? Without postings from the news or Mansfield Prospective ???

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Mike Monroe Dwayne is the fact his son took a gun to school not bad enough? What about his daughter cutting herself a week or so ago? Seems to be an unstable household to say the least.

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Tyger Parent There is so much more going on, that when it all comes out.

We all will be saying WTF, and how in thee hell does he still have a job..

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Dwayne Price Mike I’m not sure if you are answering for Phil however it seems to be a lot of turmoil involving innocent children whom had a stable home with someone striving to do right by his obligation of his children. I Think you must get more details from the news officials or whomever is giving you info to publicly should get facts and knowledge and far liability I don’t think people should tare down a man’s character over a matter that was thrown out of complex with news people and I don’t know anything about a Daughter cutting on herself which seems to be changing the issue and bringing into more drama for children that were already traumatized from a sibling from their home temporarily

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Dwayne Price Sorry for the spell check on some words

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Tyger Parent Hey Dwayne.

Would you being friends with the father have anything to do with your input.

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Pamela Kay Maybe him being a friend may benefit the conversation. . I’d like to know facts… you guys spout off BS and person conspiracy opinions….what’s wrong with a person who knows him………

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Pamela Kay Personal*

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Dwayne Price This is FYI for Tyger Parent I think more concern should be placed on how to provide structure and a support system and not a few individual whom thrive on manipulating the public view to it in a negative aspects and destroy a Young Kids life For what a story that appears to catch people eye that are obviously digging their nose where it doesn’t need to be People I must say it’s imperative to pay attention to your own problems and not a matter that has a lot of negativity drawn to it from people from such a small world of knowledge

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Tyger Parent And Pam, we all know who you are.

We have discussed that already.

For your FYI, the child should always come first, a child cuts herself, the dad removes her from the ER before treatment can be finished.

Having another child take a loaded firearm to school should be the main concern here, the weapon could have been dropped and went off, and hurt or killed an innocent child.

Let’s show more concern for the child and less about the parent(s)..

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Pamela Kay Who gave the child up…. this is a juvenile case…u don’t understand… Dwayne. . Any insight?

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Pamela Kay Oh Tyger Parent… u were there???… ure the all knowing, right. HOW BOUT SHUT UP! Or give us legit info??? Maybe some facts.. u talk a lot with no facts. Just like the Halloween party with a lot of ppl still in prison including a DJ who wasn’t even apart of it… U have no knowledge of factual events. Keep it FACTUAL!! I know that a hard for u.

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Dwayne Price His mother invited the media to exploit her child for her own personal gain. As for the gun yes this situation could’ve drastically been different n thank god it wasn’t. This child is hurting n he felt helpless because of the bullying thats the real issue or maybe some if not all of you have never dealt with racial issues. Ignorant people offer ignorant uneducated points of view. Sad for those of you that are only adding fire to this families crisis.

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Dwayne Price And for “Tyger Parent” or whatever your true identity is be very careful for HIPPA has laws but maybe as u communicate with the wrong people for your information be sensitive about the right to privacy

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Pamela Kay Gosh I can’t imagine…hope the WHOLE family is praying and getting through this! What a sad situation! Praying for him and your family!

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Tyger Parent Ohh, I could mention more, like how the court procedure went down today.

I can go into more detail if you wish ..

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Pamela Kay Oh since u were there…u must have 1st hand knowledge…..Please let us know facts of situation. ?? FACTS!!

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Dwayne Price Hey Tyger Parent I think it’s imperative to protect the innocent one and that’s the child that’s in a place that’s not for people that really have a criminal record just think

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Pamela Kay Tyger Parent is the all knowing.. you didn’t know hahahaha… Dwayne… I’m sorry she doesn’t care about an innocent kid. I would love some facts tho. If u can give some ..

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Tyger Parent I agree, the child needed help long time ago, as this didn’t happen over night.

Something had to lead up to where the child is now.
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John Benjamin Tatum Why was a loaded firearm taken to school?

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Mike Monroe Personal protection John. Back to the point, WHY IS THE CHILD taking the fall ALONE? his father is a deputy and doesn’t have control in his own home of of a firearm? It was missing for a couple days right? Was it reported stolen? If not, why? Why again was the Deputy not charged with negligence??

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The truth comes out once poster posted snide and untrue message(s) – get checked, now who’s laughing?

MP Group is Mansfielders Perspective on facebook where like this guy just found out, you keep it real or you leave once your called out. THEY will say you get banned for this, and in some cases they are right! How ever this loud mouth liar was caught in a lie or was afraid somebody might tie him to Ciara’s question…

  • Now we know why Larry Spencer went running – Now who’s ROTFL?

Ciara Holmes Larry all your interested in is spreading hate and discord, and why your fascination with Anthony McKean? are you the Larry Spence out of Wooster who has numerous assault charges against him?

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Here are the posts he more than likely don’t want you to read, and WHY he left?

This punk was checked after leaving what can and would get him in dire straits with me!

Banned for being a cunt

Larry Spence And this is the adult model you want us to follow, huh Phil. You honestly wonder why so few people come to your protests? Nobody wants to be associated with a wife beater and an insane douchebag.You’re fighting a losing cause ads long as you keep this ignorant moron around. Yet call Phil a dipshit when he’s being a dipshit and you’re a name calling schoolgirl. Yet Randy is offensive and name calling daily and all Phil says is you don’t understand Randy. He means well. So did Hitler.

Larry Spence Truth cuts to the heart didn’t it wife beater. This site is a joke and so are you. 700 out of 40,000 + and only maybe eight people that ever talk. Have fun playing Big shot with Randy. You two are the biggest fucking losers I’ve ever come across. Fyi. I deliver medical supplies. You work a pretty petty job at Abc warehouse to be trying to make fun of pizza delivery boys. Just more hypocrisy from a douchebag that beats up ladies and begs for sales on his sad facebook page.

Now for the post(s) that ensued once this guy lost his mind…

Larry Spence left on his own 102614_another phony

Larry Spence leaves group when Ciara tells it like it is, now who’s laughing??????

Larry Spence

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Randy Shepherd
“And you are still ugly, do youhave a point in this babble. Have you done anything today have you had you psych evaluated?? You certainly talk but have you done anything today?”

This guy is an admin on this page. This is the ridiculous diatribe you can expect daily from this fool but if you defend yourself or refute him in any way our call him a name in return it is you that is attacked by Phil Sydnor who will chastise you for name calling while calling you a schoolgirl. Be warned new people, This site is not interested in your opinion. Only your acquiescence towards theirs.

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Larry Spence Here’s a pre-emptive answer to the inevitable question Phil will ask of why am I here. Just to cause trouble? No that’s why Randy is here and we all know you put up with it because he agrees with you and you’re friends in the real world. I’m here because my daughter was accosted by an officer and what go I find but a group who needs a watchdog the same as the city does. I’ve never seen such blatent and open hypocrisy in terms of holding people to standards. It became clear very fast here that even though the group info claims all perspectives welcome in reality you’ll find out as quick as I did that non conforming opinions are attacked as is your identity and honor.

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Randy Shepherd You have no duty to read or stay my friend. You may wish to join with like minded people. I am not like minded as to call the group in mass anything only their individual persepective I find utterlly reprehensible at times.
I do not wish to verbally joust with you or your cronines about how y’all decieve the people. I really do not wish to waste my time in doing so. I ask you once again please refrain from side tracks and bogus allegations. you have no proof you have no proof of intent and or motive. You wish to seize opertunity but that may well be limited to those who want change for the better.
I do find your interjections of signs you saw to ask us questions about them. I id repsond and gave you guidance about what you saw and your prospective of what you saw, Now you wsih to defend the guy who says you never saw becasue it did not exist. Bro keep jumping the fence its you credibilty at stake, JT said you did not see, after you approached our group about what you saw.
Where are you at on this one thingy?
You said you saw he said you are a liar and you said uh huh stop picking on him Randy I am the eal liar. If that is so you and JT have your own private conversation about what you said you saw and what he says you did not see and get back with us?

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Phil Sydnor Larry, re-read your post. It’s inaccuracies are very troubling for you. One Randy is NOT an admin for democracy rules, or is that monarchy? Randy does not start trouble unless you call cluck cluck cluck as starting trouble. People say there’s a record, Randy says there’s not – how troubling is that? It was March when Brian Garber was MURDERED, please my CONfused friend, show us ONE RECORD we can rely on? How about the suicide of James Mayer our prosecutor, can you get us a recored aka affidavit where ANYONE said in writing, signed, stamped by the clerk that someone saw him shoot himself? Didn’t think you could, its like trying to find these damn re-elect signs for Judge Robinson???? Prove any of this to me and you will have instant credibility, until then I will not listen one fn minute to your poppycock!

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John Jung Sr.

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Randy Shepherd For the record, Some buisness printed the campain signs. I am certain that buisness has a record as to how many signs were purchased as well as how many said what. Mr Jt care to do something and find not only the buisness that printed them as the bequest of the committe to re-elect Judge Robinson?? You know its like getiing a business card printed, the printer needs to now waht to put on your card and how many are to say what.
Get the invoice and quit pimping out Larry and his convictions.

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Phil Sydnor For the record, there is no record – lol! A figment of imagination don’t count, then again just like in Richland County you can convict a peanut butter sandwich without such evidence, ALL you need is someone (ONE) to go on the record and it’s a done deal, right? Not so fast!, I was NEVER convicted of wife beating either yet Mr Spence has gone on the record and says its so? Now that’s ROTFLMAO!!!!

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Phil Sydnor I am going on the record saying he’s FOS, now watch how pissed he gets by calling him out? That’s what name calling libtards resort to, name calling and BS they can’t back up. Then they will bait you into what they call a threat, watch!!!!! – here it comes?????

 

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Randy Shepherd Listen to a flapper on a ducks ass and you may hear a whole lot of untruths.

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Randy Shepherd Bumper jumper take the ride on the bumper yo choose Lary it what suits the moment of a pea brain. You doin alright?

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Phil Sydnor Another Drew follower just outed themselves, highly doubt we will be hearing anymore from Larry unless it’s a rant of they’re threatening me, boo hoo! – it’s a Halloween theme????

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Randy Shepherd prolly had to go to work but the old man did not?? Oops the old man like the hunter gatherers enjoys more liesure tiem the liesure suit Larry go get em youth wiht exhuberance I say FORE!!

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  • Now we know why Larry Spencer went running – Now who’s ROTFL?

Ciara Holmes Larry all your interested in is spreading hate and discord, and why your fascination with Anthony McKean? are you the Larry Spence out of Wooster who has numerous assault charges against him?

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Phil Sydnor Sure it is Ciara, that;s why he’s pimping medical supplies – lol!

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Phil Sydnor I just love it when the TRUTH comes out, and yet I don’t have to provide it  good job Ciara, I was waiting for someone to do a background check – lol!

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Ciara Holmes More like peddling pharmaceuticals!

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Phil Sydnor See Ciara, you get it! – This is all those who are laughing will send here, those on community control – lol! Why don’t those who are laughing come laugh in my face, naaaah – they’ll just remain anonymous because they are laughing! My intel tells a differnent story, THEY are crying, especially now that we caught their BS on tape, or should I say digital recording device of a public meeting – lol!

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Sean A. Vincent Wait a minute….. Ducks asses have flappers?

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Randy Shepherd OOPs bully outed for being a bully from Arkansas. Watch out Ciara he may damn prepositions anyhow.

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Randy Shepherd Not pimping muleing as is his vocation and ability. TJ is pimping him.

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Randy Shepherd for Jerry’s kids??

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Randy Shepherd Actually they are oil glands but look a lot like flappers?? Not like a chicken butt that has a whole lot of mights.

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Randy Shepherd Diatribe I missed that one, the ex was real good at those inumenodes maybe y’all could get together. She didnlt look hateful but she is.

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Shayla Lane Phil, are you referring to Randy as the libtard with all his name calling?

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Next post by Mr Spencer before he leaves group

Larry Spence

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I wish you dumb tools could see all my co-workers as they laugh hysterically. Every one of them thinks you people are fucking tools. Leave me or ban me whatever. You’re only good for laughing at now.

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Sean A. Vincent You and your coworkers must not get a whole lot of work done surfing the web all day

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Larry Spence On time every time. We deliver and you live.

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Ciara Holmes I see Jeff Shook (MPD) agrees with Larry’s craziness,and he was an officer sworn to protect and serve…Bully and threatened seem be to be the norm for some of these officers that work for the public,Did MPD send you larry, are you working out a deal for a lighter sentence.

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Vicki Snow-Lawhun Omg public opinion page , opinion noted  not sure where u work but I hope my tax dollars dont pay your wages . As for people being “tools” its opinions everyone is entitled to them calm down .

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Sean A. Vincent “On time every time”….. We know he doesn’t work for the post office

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Why is Larry Spence not responding to these comebacks? That’s right, he went running after his criminal record was exposed – lol!

 

Phil Sydnor

22 hrs

Showtimes my friend, and says Phil’s a wife beater – aka me?

As you’re buddy Drew Tyler would say….Prove it tough guy!

Larry Spence

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  • Phil SydnorLarry Spence And this is the adult model you want us to follow, huh Phil. You honestly wonder why so few people come to your protests? Nobody wants to be associated with a wife beater and an insane douchebag.You’re fighting a losing cause ads long as you keep this ignorant moron around. Yet call Phil a dipshit when he’s being a dipshit and you’re a name calling schoolgirl. Yet Randy is offensive and name calling daily and all Phil says is you don’t understand Randy. He means well. So did Hitler.
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Phil Sydnor C.U.N.T.= Can’t Understand Normal Thinking, sure fits now –

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Randy Shepherd He really does look lilke a lobster trapper not a snapper trapper. Is he from maine?/ Hey Nieghba? Maine?

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Budd Meyer I know Phils inlaws and if that was true they would have killed him a long time ago

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Phil Sydnor You got that right Budd, you don’t screw with the Beverly’s and live if any of this was true. Maybe Larry would like to speak to my wife and not the one who’s filling his ass with crap – lol! I’m starting to sound like a Commissioner, surely I will have to run?

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David Wieland she would kick his ass.

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Phil Sydnor Dave has it right, we both have wives that will kick our asses – lol! One way or the other –  –

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Randy Shepherd Yea but it is the out laws we are concerned with?? Lol

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Randy Shepherd I am beginning to this the logical solution is to RUN away from this whit hole county. way to much appethy to believe someone actually cares way to much stupidity for any one to know. NOT.

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Randy Shepherd doins a lot tougher that sayin.

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Randy Shepherd Well I always get in the last words in my home. Those are. “yes Dear”.

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Phil Sydnor Mine last words are, give me a smooch –

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Angie Robinson Yeah right !!!!!!!! That’s a BIG FAT LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Stan H Lammon ASK ANY LAWYER THIS QUESTION ,ARE YOU STILL BEATING YOUR WIFE/—-THEY WON’T ANSWER LOL

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Randy Shepherd I must say this a gal who knows a lot about fat.

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Randy Shepherd What will they answer becomes the question.
I asked John Spon about his judge brothers signature. Is it real or is it fake on this legal looking document? Both times he said, “I know my brothers signature.”

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Phil Sydnor Stan, or ask the Prosecutor  Oh, we can’t, he’s problem solved?

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Phil Sydnor She sure does Randy, she’s good friends with my wife

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Garrett Bentley Lol

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Phil Sydnor Big man behind his keyboard, just another f bomb goon!

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Now, if this isn’t a Narcissistic Sociopathic post I don’t know what one is?

Larry Spence On time every time. We deliver and you live.

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Are Commissioners Minutes of Meetings safely kept?, I don’t think so!

Just in case we want to update, change, or modify this unsigned document for October 16th’s meeting I have given the public what was posted on the 23rd for reference!

October 16th meeting minutes, unsigned yet accurate? If anything changes surely Stacy Crall the clerk who keeps them will safely keep them, right?

I actually prefer meeting minutes to be recorded via video for accuracy, you know there’s a TRUST issue with what we safely keep here as official record. Nothing signed, Nothing filed and safely kept by our Clerk of Courts? Yes, the Sheriff safely keeps his own records too!, but who are we citizens who question this procedure? Surely we can find a LAW or a Document that depicts how records are retained? I know for a fact this is not the retention policy our Government wants private businesses to keep, so why can’t they do the same?

You Tube video of the MP’s perspective, you know…those people who are going to start showing up to these meetings to advocate for the people on the record. After all there cronies who speak only anonymously on craigslist, in our group with fake accounts like this one, and now on our record say we should run for office if we want to change it! Hmmm I say???? Isn’t it time YOU start going to these meetings to question politics, it’s amazing what you will find on and off the record if you just ask, just make sure you’re the one keeping the record safe (smile). – Have a nice day! – If I’m a nut job, put it in writing, sign it, and safely keep the record, then you can pay me as well to shut up like you have so many others before me? NOT!, I will continue to work regardless of my strife – it’s the last freedom we have left! – TELLING IT LIKE IT IS?????

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